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The Neoconservative Persuasion
Weekly Standard ^ | 2003 | Irving Kristol

Posted on 05/24/2004 4:42:38 PM PDT by churchillbuff

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To: churchillbuff

You're not disagreeing with me; to disagree with me, you have to have a point; so far, all I've seen you post is vitrolic disinformation.


61 posted on 05/24/2004 8:41:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: churchillbuff
Hmmmmmmmmmmm...it was just today,that Mark Levin was talking about neo-cons and how so many of them are REAGANITE CONSEDRVATIVES !

It's too bad you don'yt list to Levin...his show is marvelous.

62 posted on 05/24/2004 8:41:49 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: asmith92008; churchillbuff

People that are afraid to discuss problems within the conservative movement have something to hide, IMHO.

If they're not willing to talk about ideologues that support things like "open borders", "rapid growth of gov't.", "outsourcing" and America as the "World's Policeman", then how do they expect those of us who feel weve been Neo-Conned to believe "Conservative Values" haven't been abandoned altogether and we have no one left to represent us?

A ship can only get so many holes in it before the bilge pumps fail...


63 posted on 05/24/2004 8:43:12 PM PDT by Veracious Poet (Cash cows are sacred in America...GOT MILKED???)
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To: Barlowmaker
It's a good thing to always question Chamberlinbuff:

April is Iraq's deadliest month

By Gregg Zoroya, USA TODAY

The deadliest month for U.S. troops in Iraq ended Friday with 137 servicemembers having lost their lives. The overwhelming majority of them were victims of hostile action such as gunfire, rocket attacks and explosions.

64 posted on 05/24/2004 8:44:03 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: churchillbuff; holdonnow

If you can spare the time,this thread and the person who posted it,could REALLY use your reply to this.


65 posted on 05/24/2004 8:44:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Long Cut

Stick together? Tell that to the family from my church that just lost their only breadwinner when the husband lost his job in construction due to the hiring of illegals.

This policy, that both the GOP and dems subscribe to, of helping others to the detrimete of our citizens has to stop.

The current situation in regards to illegals is wrong and, according to most polls, the vast majority of American's agree that it's wrong. If they where listining the would fix the problem (or in the past 45 minutes did we capture everyone on the planet that wishs to do the USA harm? Because those same people could sneak across our borders the same way all those illegals do).


Good night and God bless.


66 posted on 05/24/2004 8:44:35 PM PDT by inflation (Cuba = BAD, China = Good? Why, should both be treated the way Cuba is?)
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To: MrShoop

Actually I did find it compelling. It describes this neocon well. The piece was nuanced and well written, and to the point - and true.


67 posted on 05/24/2004 8:45:16 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie

I'll give you $5 if you never, ever use the word "nuanced" again. :-)


68 posted on 05/24/2004 8:45:59 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: churchillbuff
This source says 137, and if I recall, 10 or so were accidents or natural causes.

If Bloomberg is willing to inflate the total by 28%, I'd worry about the veracity of the rest of their information and analysis too.

69 posted on 05/24/2004 8:46:07 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: churchillbuff
the release two weeks ago of photos showing U.S. soldiers abusing Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib prison sparked outrage worldwide. For the first time, a majority of Americans -- 51 percent -- said the war was going poorly, the Pew Center for the Public Press poll said after a poll May 3-9.

Do a google. Why give legitimacy to a member of the Pew Charitable Trust if you are not working for the left?
70 posted on 05/24/2004 8:46:39 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberalism is a Hate Crime)
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To: All

Oh, well, it was a nice dream, anyways.


71 posted on 05/24/2004 8:47:32 PM PDT by Long Cut ("Fightin's commenced, Ike, now get to fightin' or get outta the way!"...Wyatt Earp, in Tombstone)
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To: churchillbuff

Pity you are taking fire for posting an excellent article. Of course, it is your posting history, rather than the article, that attacks the fire. Handle it as best you can. By the way, I don't myself agree with most of what you post. But there is no justification for trashing you personally. I dissent from that.


72 posted on 05/24/2004 8:48:42 PM PDT by Torie
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To: PA Engineer
Why give legitimacy to a member of the Pew Charitable

Can't argue with you about the Pew stinkers. I posted the article because it gave a casualty figure for april (which might be higher than the actual number, from what other posters are claiming), not to highlight the rest of the stuff in the article, including the smelly leftist group call "Pew."

73 posted on 05/24/2004 8:49:04 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: Howlin
"When have you even known an American hater to be honest?"

Well, now that you asked, I guess the answer is none. Poor thing, he does so want to be "special" but as it turns out he is just garden variety.

74 posted on 05/24/2004 8:50:14 PM PDT by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: inflation
I thought a neo-con was someone who thought we should secure Iraq's/Afghstains' borders and leave our borders unsecured

Hey, your catching on!

75 posted on 05/24/2004 8:50:26 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Howlin

OK, but it will cost you $20 to make me stop using "ersatz." :)


76 posted on 05/24/2004 8:50:42 PM PDT by Torie
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To: asmith92008
That's probably THE silliest,most twisted and FALSE definition of neo-con,EVER to be poszted to FR!

Just WHAT,by-the-by,is a "wall street salon"?

They hold BBQs on the main street,whnere YOU live?

Class warfare has NO place on FR;none!

77 posted on 05/24/2004 8:50:52 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: inflation
Tell that to the family from my church that just lost their only breadwinner when the husband lost his job in construction due to the hiring of illegals.

Is that the only job in the county? Nobody else in the family can work?

78 posted on 05/24/2004 8:51:52 PM PDT by Barlowmaker
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To: Long Cut

BRAVO!


79 posted on 05/24/2004 8:52:10 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Howlin

Canadian, I think.


80 posted on 05/24/2004 8:52:37 PM PDT by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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