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Bush Meets With Saddam's Torture Victims
NewsMax.com ^ | 5/25/04 | Carl Limbacher and the NewsMax.com staff

Posted on 05/25/2004 10:33:04 AM PDT by kattracks

In a dramatic gesture designed to counter the media's focus on U.S. abuses at Baghdad's Abu Ghraib prison, President Bush met in the Oval Office on Tuesday with a group of Saddam Hussein's torture victims.

The six men, whose hands were surgically amputated at Saddam's direction in operations that were filmed for his viewing pleasure, picked up on Bush's promise last night that Abu Ghraib would be demolished, saying that they wanted to be among the first to "swing the hammer" against the prison's walls.

Their plight, chronicled by video producer Don North in the documentary "Remembering Saddam," has received scant attention in the U.S., with North telling the Wall Street Journal two weeks ago that American media outlets he contacted have shown no interest in broadcasting the film.

The film tells the story of how Saddam meted out the amputation punishments to the six Baghdad merchants, whom the Iraqi dictator blamed for his country's collapsing economy.

"Besides having our hands amputated, we were scarred on our foreheads, between our eyebrows," one of the men, Ala'a Abdul Hassein, told the Houston Chronicle in April. "The regime wanted us to be psychologically scarred forever."

"I was amazed and shocked by the tape," North told the paper. "It clearly showed doctors working with surgical instruments cutting through and severing these healthy hands. The victims were under anesthetic, and while they were still under, they had these black crosses tattooed to their foreheads to show they were miscreants," he said.

"Remembering Saddam" also documents how Houston surgeon Dr. Joseph Agris volunteered to perform the necessary surgery to fit the six torture victims with prosthetic devices last year with the help of Houston oil executive Roger Brown, who helped bring the them to the U.S.

In a bid to circumvent the mainstream media's embargo of the film, the Heritage Foundation has scheduled a screening of "Remembering Saddam" in Washington, D.C., Wednesday morning.



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: abughraib; bush43; ccrm; documentary; iraq; prosthetics

1 posted on 05/25/2004 10:33:04 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks

I wish Bush had issued a VERY public invitation to teddy kennedy for this event.


2 posted on 05/25/2004 10:38:35 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Better fight the WOT in the Iraqi "holy" city of Najaf, than in the American holy city of New York.)
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To: kattracks

And I'm sure CBS will lead with this tonight...


3 posted on 05/25/2004 10:39:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: kattracks

I'm heading over to the National Press Club to meet these men. C-SPAN is scheduled to cover their press conference at 3 p.m., IIRC.


4 posted on 05/25/2004 10:39:55 AM PDT by kristinn
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To: kattracks

Funny. Not a word of this on ABC, CBS, or NBC...


5 posted on 05/25/2004 11:14:19 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: kattracks

Bump the heck out of this story.


6 posted on 05/25/2004 11:26:49 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: kattracks

BTTT


7 posted on 05/25/2004 12:23:47 PM PDT by sr4402
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To: kattracks; Stillwaters

Ping for more news we won't see anywhere


8 posted on 05/25/2004 12:29:54 PM PDT by lonevoice (Some things have to be believed to be seen)
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To: facedown

BTTT


9 posted on 05/25/2004 12:42:21 PM PDT by votelife ("Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordian." Don Rumsfeld)
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To: votelife
I'm really surprised that the WH web page doesn't have any pics of the yet. (video available)
10 posted on 05/25/2004 12:43:53 PM PDT by OXENinFLA ("I sent American troops to Iraq to make its people free, not to make them American."----Pres. Bush)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
And I'm sure CBS will lead with this tonight...

Unless Bush made them walk around with womens underpants on their heads, CBS has no use for a story like this.

11 posted on 05/25/2004 12:49:29 PM PDT by True Capitalist
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To: kattracks
Iraqis, scheduled for surgery, hoist Don North

12 posted on 05/25/2004 12:49:35 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: evets

Bump !! Let's keep this one going!!


13 posted on 05/25/2004 12:51:52 PM PDT by BobFromNJ
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To: lonevoice

including Fox News - North did an interview last week with Laura Ingraham, he cannot get a distribution deal for the film, and Laura specifically asked him if Fox News would run it - nope.


14 posted on 05/25/2004 12:53:34 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

bttt


15 posted on 05/25/2004 1:01:28 PM PDT by votelife ("Going to war without France is like going deer hunting without your accordian." Don Rumsfeld)
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To: BobFromNJ

BTTT


16 posted on 05/25/2004 1:04:49 PM PDT by 6323cd
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To: BobFromNJ

Tommorrow in D.C.:
Remembering Saddam
Date: May 26, 2004
Time: 10:00 a.m.
Speaker(s):
Don North’s documentary film
Remembering Saddam
Followed by a discussion featuring
Seven Iraqi Men
whose hands were severed in Saddam Hussein’s arbitrary act of terror
and
Don North
Producer, Northstar Productions



Host(s): The Heritage Foundation and the American Foreign Policy Council
Details:
Location: The Heritage Foundation’s Allison Auditorium

As Iraqis emerge from the dark ages of Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship, the staggering dimensions of his cruel atrocities are becoming known. Remembering Saddam is the story of seven Baghdad merchants who incurred the wrath of Saddam. Nine years ago, after spending a year in the infamous Abu Ghraib prison, their right hands were surgically removed as part of an effort to blame small businessmen for Iraq’s collapsing economy. Each man tells his story and friends, wives and children recall their experiences under the former dictator. Join us for a look at this powerful and poignant documentary, which as of now, no U.S. broadcast or cable network has chosen to air.

http://www.heritage.org/Press/Events/ev052604a.cfm


17 posted on 05/25/2004 1:06:15 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: oceanview
These men were guests of our West Point Society here in Houston on 13 May, along with the MD who performed their surgeries. Also joining us were 4 young USMA grads, just back from Iraq--compelling testimony by all.

For a touching synopsis, read from my attorney friend Michael Craig's email commentary below:

"I went to a luncheon at Brennan's yesterday with my law partner; it was sponsored by the West Point Society (we were guests of Airborne Longhorn's, an alumnus of West Point). The featured speakers were a panel of four young officers, all West Point graduates, who had just returned from a tour in Iraq.

It was enlightening to hear their versions of combat and reconstruction that is going on in Iraq, a somewhat different perspective than what we currently read in the media. One young officer (he looked 19 to me, but I am sure he was in his mid to late twenties) talked about how he was handed $30 million (U.S.) captured from Saddam's bunkers and put in charge of putting it to use.

He described how he oversaw the utilization of these monies in building schools, bridges, repairing water works and sewage systems, purchasing police cars, repairing electrical systems, etc., a far better use of the funds than its previous owner had in mind for it.

Another officer said that Saddam's palaces were opulent beyond measure, and incredibly abject poverty existed just outside the gate of each palace. They also uniformly reported that over 90% of the country stood solidly behind the U.S. involvement there.

Of more visceral impact on me, however, was meeting the guests of honor at the next table, seven middle-aged Iraqi men, all missing their right hands. They were businessmen (importers, jewelers, etc.), with the exception of one teacher.

Their crime under Saddam Hussein was that they had all inquired about the value of the Iraqi currency against the value of the U.S. dollar in their professional endeavors. Their punishment was to lose their right hand at Abu Gharaib prison.

Somehow, for me, this had far more gravity in its cruelty and permanent consequence than the capricious humiliation of a prisoner by having him pose naked with underwear on his head, at the behest of a handful of dunderhead soldiers at the bottom of the food chain.

These Iraqis, who each got up to speak (with the assistance of a translator) were gentle, unassuming men, and my heart went out to them. So did a lot of others, appparently, as Marvin Zindler took their cause up some time ago, resulting in their all coming to America to have new bionic hands fitted on them by a prominent Jewish plastic surgeon at the Texas Medical Center at no cost (though no one mentioned it at the luncheon, I couldn't miss the irony of a Jew's compassionate act for these middle Eastern men).

Continental Airlines donated the plane fare, the Warwick and Marriott Medical Center hotels donated their room and board, and the West Point Society, made up of veteran officers, did the logistics. Even Drayton McClain got in the act by donating his box for their viewing of an Astros game the other night.

To me, this was an incredibly moving human interest story about the generosity of Americans. To my knowledge, our liberal press didn't give this story so much as a mention on the back page.

I think God's handiwork goes on behind the scenes through so many people; unfortunately, none of this is seen by the majority of people in this country.

Michael"

18 posted on 05/25/2004 1:07:25 PM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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bump to the ping
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1142025/posts?page=1


19 posted on 05/25/2004 1:18:07 PM PDT by evets (God bless president George W. Bush)
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To: OXENinFLA
Photo here:

Iraqi amputees meet with Bush


20 posted on 05/25/2004 1:24:23 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: kattracks

If only they had brought this film to Cannes....I am sure the French would have given this the Best Film award instead of Michael Moores movie. (end sarcasm)


21 posted on 05/25/2004 1:25:01 PM PDT by Feiny (This post ain't for everybody, just the sexy freepers.)
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To: OXENinFLA
reteurs has 3 photos on Yahoo News. None of them are very good pictures (out of focus, little scope, poor poses):

The photo I posted from the other thread is MUCH better. If the photojournalists can't take respectful the President of the United States, should they even have the job?

22 posted on 05/25/2004 1:32:58 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
Has Amnesty International expressed any interest in seeing this film?
23 posted on 05/25/2004 1:35:12 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: weegee

No kidding. Talk about artless.


24 posted on 05/25/2004 1:38:14 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Airborne Longhorn

you should try and get onto Rush or Hannity with this.


25 posted on 05/25/2004 1:38:54 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: weegee

or course not. the left could care less about these men.


26 posted on 05/25/2004 1:40:30 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview
Nice idea; wouldn't know how to do it...unless one of them is lurking!
27 posted on 05/25/2004 1:41:22 PM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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To: Airborne Longhorn

call in - tell the screener your story.


28 posted on 05/25/2004 1:43:58 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

research bookmark


29 posted on 05/25/2004 2:13:19 PM PDT by Maigrey (bagel-snarfin' neocon supportin' pseudojournalist and d*** proud of it!)
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To: Airborne Longhorn; weegee
Their crime under Saddam Hussein was that they had all inquired about the value of the Iraqi currency against the value of the U.S. dollar in their professional endeavors. Their punishment was to lose their right hand at Abu Gharaib prison.

Chilling! What a story.

Great photos, weegee. If the press were honest, your photos and Airborne Longhorn's e-mail from his friend Michael Craig would be on the front page of every paper tomorrow.

We done good, but the press would have its collective tongue ripped out before admitting this.

30 posted on 05/25/2004 2:19:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: feinswinesuksass
If only they had brought this film to Cannes....I am sure the French would have given this the Best Film award instead of Michael Moores movie. (end sarcasm)

There's still plenty of time for the Oscars. I'm not kidding. Remember, the heartbreaking documentary Waco: The Rules of Engagement was given Two Thumbs Up by the normally leftist Siskel and Ebert, and did get nominated.

I still can't hear Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots Are Made For Walking" without thinking of those people burning. And no one who likes Schmuck Chumer after seeing him in action in Waco is heartless.

31 posted on 05/25/2004 3:10:14 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I don't think for myself)
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Under reported news items BUMP.

Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING

PING for this article in general and the personal account at post #18.

32 posted on 05/25/2004 4:28:31 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: L.N. Smithee
I couldn't convince people I knew to watch Waco:The Rules Of Engagement even after it was nominated for an Oscar.

Also the HBO cut of that movie was edited when aired it.

Waco: The Rules of Engagement Frequently Asked Questions

Q: Is the HBO version of "Waco: The Rules of Engagement" censored to remove material the government doesn't want seen?

A: No, it is not censored. It is simply shortened for the time requirements of television. We call it "Waco Lite: Less filling, no less disturbing."

One thing to remember from Waco:The Rules of Engagement was the grandstanding that the ATF/FBI did (posing for photos on the tank). I see no difference between that (driving a tank over a grave, etc.) and what went on in with the US guards at Abu prison (and all of it was offensive).

Maybe Mel Gibson needs to do a biopic about these men and the doctor who helped them.

33 posted on 05/25/2004 4:54:43 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: Airborne Longhorn

Awesome story. Thank you so much for sharing it with us.


34 posted on 05/25/2004 4:55:54 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: Peach

bttt


35 posted on 05/25/2004 5:01:02 PM PDT by Let's Roll (Kerry is a self-confessed unindicted war criminal or ... a traitor to his country in a time of war)
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To: Peach
You are so nice. Thanks for the sentiments.
36 posted on 05/25/2004 5:15:09 PM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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To: Airborne Longhorn
Thank you for the story. This kind of cruelty brings tears to my eyes, and so does the kind and generous American response to it.

The opposite of the above, may exist in the heart of the American left, but the American spirit is present in abundance in the minds and hearts of so many, particularly on the right.

God bless them all.

37 posted on 05/25/2004 5:21:52 PM PDT by TOUGH STOUGH
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To: TOUGH STOUGH; Peach
And thank you, too, TS. I'll see what I can do to take this story forward, thanks to you both and my FReeper pals.
38 posted on 05/25/2004 7:44:45 PM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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To: Airborne Longhorn

I have sent this to some e-mail friends and hope it is ready by many, many people. A truly amazing read.


39 posted on 05/25/2004 7:51:47 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: weegee

Thanks for the pics. };)


40 posted on 05/26/2004 4:02:05 AM PDT by OXENinFLA ("I sent American troops to Iraq to make its people free, not to make them American."----Pres. Bush)
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To: Peach

Thank you.


41 posted on 05/26/2004 6:40:30 AM PDT by Airborne Longhorn
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