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Comparison of Punishment under Shariah and Modern Law
Al-muhajiroun, the voice, the eyes, the ears of the Muslims ^ | May 25, 2004 | Al-muhajiroun,

Posted on 05/25/2004 7:28:08 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John

1. Mugging: You have probably suffered this at least once in your life, or know someone who has suffered it.

British Legal System : The sentence is discretionary, depending on the crime, but is commonly punished by community service.

Islamic Judicial System: Once guilt is ascertained, the judge will consider the severity of the crime and perform ijtihad (i.e. extracting the rule from the Qur’an and the Sunnah). This may range from public humiliation to death, if the mugging led to death.

2. Burglary: Burglary is extremely common in Britain. No doubt, you are afraid that your house may have been burgled if you are away for any period of time.

British Legal System: The sentence is discretionary, depending on the crime, but is commonly punished with imprisonment.

Islamic Judicial System: Burglars will have their hand cut off, provided they fulfil the seven conditions for this punishment. They are not permitted to have it surgically replaced.

3. Rape: There is a rape in Britain on average every 2.5 hours. Many more go unreported, and in most cases the perpetrator is known to the victim.

British Legal System: The sentence is discretionary, but the punishment ranges from a fine to life imprisonment. Commonly, the period of imprisonment is below 10 years.

Islamic Judicial System: The punishment can be death, depending on the circumstances.

4. Drug Abuse: This is extremely common amongst all ages, particularly the youth. It is often seen as a harmless habit. Perhaps you are worried about a child or relative. If not, you probably should be.

British Legal System: The punishment depends on the nature of the drug, and the quantity possessed. Alcohol is legal. For ‘soft’ drugs like marijuana, offenders are usually just cautioned, but ‘hard’ drug abusers (like cocaine, heroin) may be imprisoned.

Islamic Judicial System: Offenders are publicly flogged 80 lashes.

5. Fornication & Adultery: With the emphasis in our society placed on relationships and sexual freedom, you would be justified in fearing for the conduct of young or indeed older Muslims who are subject to its influence.

British legal System: Both of these are legal, whether done between members of the opposite sex or the same sex (i.e. homosexuality). In fact, if you were to criticise these you would be blamed for intolerance and discrimination.

Islamic Judicial System: Fornication is punished by flogging 100 lashes. Adultery and homosexual fornication are both punished by public execution.

The objective behind the administration of justice in Islam is to act as a deterrent, to reform offenders and to secure society. As you can see, the nature of sentences in the Islamic Judicial System ensure that these objectives are achieved. History bears witness to this - only about 200 hands are recorded to have been cut in the entire history of the Islamic State!

In the West, however, up to 70% of convicted prisoners re-offend once they are released, and the rates of crime are hardly indicative of a successful deterrent.

One of the fundamental problems in the West is the complete contradiction of the ideology that is pushed upon the people. On the one hand, they are told that freedom is the basic right of the individual. This, however, is an open license to commit crime. When this is combined with the concept of democracy, the contradiction becomes apparent. For democracy is a system of making laws - devices to restrict freedom. The result of this conceptual mish-mash is chaos!

The justice which the Islamic State’s Judicial System proffers will offer you peace of mind, security and confidence that your rights will not be abused. After the checks and balances of personal taqwa and the effect of public opinion, the last level of regulation - the Islamic Judicial System guarantees that the world will be free from the exploitation and corruption of man-made law, and the rising tide of crime that complements it


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; muslims; religionofpeace; rop; sharia; shariah
" I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future...But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education." Ibrahim Hooper CAIR spokesperson.

Thanks Anti-Cair for the quote. http://www.anti-cair-net.org/

1 posted on 05/25/2004 7:28:09 PM PDT by Land_of_Lincoln_John
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
Don't forget that other great crime, switching from Islam to anything else.

English system: Not a crime.
Moslem law: Death

2 posted on 05/25/2004 7:37:52 PM PDT by Nateman (Socialism first, cancer second.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
3. Rape: There is a rape in Britain on average every 2.5 hours. Many more go unreported, and in most cases the perpetrator is known to the victim.

Islamic Judicial System: The punishment can be death, depending on the circumstances. Namely, death of the female if there aren't more than two witnesses in her favor.

3 posted on 05/25/2004 7:43:05 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

For democracy is a system of making laws - devices to restrict freedom.



Confusion is setting in on alibabba...

Actually, OUR democracy is a system set up to RESTRICT the capacity of society as it naturally attempts to make laws that will hamper individual freedoms, liberties and rights... a democracy that is designed to LIMIT GOVERNMENT.

Some of our very own American lawmakers are apparently quite upset with this concept, along with our islamic enemies, in the never never land of writing the perfect "law that makes us free (or slaves depending on the rules)"!

They decry the "gridlock" that our founders built in to the system to eat like a cancer on the ever growing body of legalist expansion of powers coopted by an ever more meglomaniac state.

Gridlock was their intent.
It drives fascists of any ilk insane that they cannot get their grubby elitist, sometimes moralistic hands on our rights, freedoms and liberties.

If islamic is so great... why do their people live at MOSTLY poverty level? most women and many men are illiterate? have multiplied millions living at an elevated poverty level, while setting on top a monopoly of the world's energy supply? and ruled by tyrannical despots?

I think I will take my own assessment of democracy instead of the bull crap hyperbole of a pro"crush" liberty muslimaniac from CAIR.


4 posted on 05/25/2004 7:50:21 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (better get that pocket prayer rug and compass ready.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

"The justice which the Islamic State’s Judicial System proffers will offer you peace of mind, security and confidence that your rights will not be abused."



You mean like in Egypt? Iraq? Syria? Iran? other third world toilet hole nations?

not a chance in hell alibbaba!


5 posted on 05/25/2004 7:52:23 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (better get that pocket prayer rug and compass ready.)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John
This may range from public humiliation to death, if the mugging led to death.

Why don't we just say the 'abused' prisoners were a bunch of muggers and leave it at that?

6 posted on 05/25/2004 8:08:07 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer (I)
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To: coloradan

(s)well that is one way to discourage false reporting.(/s)


7 posted on 05/25/2004 8:11:03 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Land_of_Lincoln_John

Thanks for the civics lesson. Still, I think I'll refrain from taking advice on law and government from any country or culture whose population by and large spends their days sitting in filth eating dirt. Instead, I'll stick with the civilization that put a man on the moon and doubled human life expectancy in the same century.

Islamic countries produced amazing literature, mathematicians, natural scientists, etc. while Europeans were sitting in filth eating dirt. But that was hundreds of years ago. What exactly have they done lately? Other than untold billions in oil wealth generated by a stroke of geographic luck and wasted by a corrupt few despots, what do Islamic countries produce? (Besides rugs and terrorists, of course).


8 posted on 05/25/2004 8:17:36 PM PDT by alfonsodg (Dying at 40 from old age is natural. Give me modern medicine any day.)
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what do Islamic countries produce? (Besides rugs and terrorists, of course).

Babies and beggars?
9 posted on 05/25/2004 10:52:07 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: alfonsodg

8 - "what do Islamic countries produce? (Besides rugs and terrorists, of course)."

Note - the rugs are made by children, particularly girls, from 6-10 years old (dextrous fingers?). And the terrorists are teenagers and young adults. What the adults produce? I don't know.


10 posted on 05/25/2004 11:09:26 PM PDT by XBob
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