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Peaceful religion isn't spelled I-s-l-a-m: Quran verses contradicting Muslim claims
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | May 25, 2004 | Mychal Massie

Posted on 05/26/2004 2:17:56 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

Certainly there are those within Islam who do not subscribe to the atrocities I am about to discuss, but their peaceful practice of Islam doesn't make it a peaceful religion. A peaceful religion is similar to that of Richard Gere and his Buddhist brethren.

Professor Moshe Sharon of the Hebrew University in Jerusalem writes:

Islam was born with the idea that it should rule the world ... Judaism speaks about national salvation – namely that at the end of the story, when the world becomes a better place, Israel will be in its own land, ruled by its own king and serving God. Christianity speaks about the idea that every single person in the world can be saved from his sins, while Islam speaks about ruling the world ... quoting a verse in English ... 'Allah sent Mohammed with the true religion so that it should rule over all the religions.' The idea, then, is not that the whole world would become a Muslim world at this time, but that the whole world would be subdued under the rule of Islam ... Wherever you have Islam, you will have war. It grows out of the attitude of Islamic civilization.

Consider: There are about 400 recognized terrorist groups in the world. Over 90 percent of these are Islamist groups. Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements. The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.

This includes Egypt, Turkey, Pakistan, Lebanon, Indonesia, all of the Emirates, Sudan, Philippines, India, Libya, Algeria, Malaysia, Spain, Morocco, Yemen, Syria, Tunisia, Jordan and, finally, what they call the "occupied territory" – Israel. Louis Farrakhan is the face of Islam in America. Is his message one of peace?

According to a recent story in WorldNetDaily, "A British Muslim convert characterized an alleged mission to bomb the Israeli embassy in Australia as his obligation to Allah to perform jihad ..." The man went on to say, "As Muslims we are obligated to perform jihad to uphold the laws of Allah, the truth on his earth."

There have been Baptists calling for Hollywood to produce programming fit for family consumption – but I cannot point to Baptists calling for Hollywood to be destroyed because it is comprised of Jews and infidels.

There exist doctrinal differences between Wesleyans, Nazarenes and charismatics – most notably on the subject of glossolalia – but I have never heard these groups refer to one another as infidels or call for annihilation. But true followers of Islam cannot make that claim.

According to Dr. Mark Gabriel ("Islam and Terrorism"), "There are 114 verses in the Quran that speak of love, forgiveness and peace (Meccan verses). All are abrogated by Sudah 9:5, known as 'The Verse of The Sword,' which came later in Muhammad's life (Medina):

Find and slay the pagans [non-Muslims] wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them, in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent [convert to Islam], and establish regular prayers and practice regular charity, them open up a way for them: for Allah is oft forgiving, most merciful ...

– Surah 9:5

I cannot think of any practicing Catholics I know who would be overjoyed if their daughter married an unrepentant atheist. But I am unwaveringly confident that their priest would not call for her to be stabbed or axed to death for having brought dishonor to the family. Yet, as WorldNetDaily reported in April, that is exactly what a Muslim Jordanian man did to his 8-months pregnant sister. And a Muslim Kurd murdered his 16-year-old daughter for starting a relationship with a Lebanese Christian boy in September 2003.

WND further reported "an anthropologist's study said dozens and probably hundreds of brutal 'honor killings' of Palestinian women and girls ... annually go unreported." Such occurrences have taken place in the United States. Some may try to dismiss or argue away these examples as anecdotal, but they are anything but.

The recent beheading of Nick Berg sickened us, but this act was practiced and sanctioned by Muhammad himself.

In an article published by Barnabas Fund on May 14, "Hundreds of Christians die in bloody massacres in Kano," the Christian Association of Nigeria reported Muslim rioters had murdered 600-plus Christians and burned 12 Christian churches in one night. Pregnant women were "ripped open and their bodies burned."

In Jersey City and Newark, N.J., it wasn't Mennonites or Methodists who celebrated in the streets as 3,000-plus Americans (Muslims included) were murdered.

Every morning of every day we read and hear of atrocities committed by fanatical Muslims. Christians are commonly politicized as being hardcore and fanatical; but decapitation is not Christian theology.

Many Muslims in this country may be peaceful, but apart from the radical activities of groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, I've not heard a cacophony of their voices. But we should. After all it wasn't Mormons standing on a bridge in Fallujah shouting Allahu Akbar (God is great) while the remains of innocent mutilated Americans burned.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dhimmi; islam; islamofascism; koran; muslims; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; swordverse; wot
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To: LadyDoc
What do you think of

Pakistan: Unknown-armed men kidnap priest (Religion of Peace)

Critics: Pakistan Schools Help Breed Terrorism

Pakistani Christian Murdered in His Home

government's first gift to Christians. A bomb blasts ... Church. (Pakistan, December 2002)


21 posted on 05/26/2004 5:58:55 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Atlantic Friend; 2banana
Are these killings ordered by God, G-d or Allah, or are they ordered by mortal men who find in religion a useful tool to further their own very earthly goals ?

They ain't ordered by Gd, but byAllah or his profit Mo.
22 posted on 05/26/2004 6:00:05 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Atlantic Friend
What's the central message of Christianity? Love one another as God loves you.

What's the central message of Mo's cult? Kill 'em.

And you say there are peacefuil teachigns that contradict the central theme? Where? Which surah? Have you read the Koran?
23 posted on 05/26/2004 6:01:17 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Atlantic Friend
are they ordered by mortal men who find in religion a useful tool to further their own very earthly goals ?

Yes, absolutely, well put. BUT, there is still a fundamental difference. Christianity does not teach and sanction death for unbelievers. Islam does.

24 posted on 05/26/2004 6:03:40 AM PDT by Drawsing (I want my fo'ty fo' cents! ...Porky from "The Little Rascals")
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To: LadyDoc
"Islam as a whole is a wonderful religion that stresses obedience to God's will, prayer, and compassion."

Spoken like a true dhimmi. Now go sweep the yard around the mosque. We will not slaughter you since you know your roll in the islamic society. You are a good daughter of apes and monkeys. You will make an excellent slave for use at the local fatwa party held every night. Be sure to put on your best burka b/c you will be raped, then circumcised and then stoned to death for bing an infidel whore who dressed improperly. Allah Akbar!! Pigs be upon him!
25 posted on 05/26/2004 6:04:47 AM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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To: JohnHuang2

You can't blame the whole religion because of it's fanatics. Sure the Koran has it's violent parts, but most Muslims are not terrorists. The problem is that the loud ones are.


26 posted on 05/26/2004 6:05:09 AM PDT by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: Atlantic Friend
You could find many examples, just as horrifying, of Christian communities or countries making a massacre of Muslims, Jews, and other Christians.

Really?

Give me some of these "many examples." Something not from the middle ages. Something along the lines of today's arab muslims in the Sudan killing, raping and enslaving millions of black Christians. Or what the muslims or doing to Christians in Indonesia. Or the muslim slaughter of Christians during church services in Pakistan. Or the beheadings of "infidels" while chanting "God is Great." Or the bombing of trains. Or the destruction of office towers. And all done in the name of their "religion"

27 posted on 05/26/2004 6:06:28 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Drawsing

As a matter of fact, Christianity does teach I should put to death someone who's slept with a woman while she was impure, among other nasty things. I'll re-read the Leviticus book, but it's real keen on burning people alive, IIRC.

I suppose the main difference is that our priests and reverends and cardinals, etc, do not see this as the central message to be brought to people's hearts.


28 posted on 05/26/2004 6:08:03 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: SuziQ; LadyDoc; JohnHuang2
The difference is that those were past aberrations

Good point -- aberrations. The alQ aren't aberrations, they are the norm. The Peaceful slammmies ARE the aberration.
29 posted on 05/26/2004 6:08:13 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Atlantic Friend
You could find many examples, just as horrifying, of Christian communities or countries making a massacre of Muslims, Jews, and other Christians. Does that make Christianty a criminal religion ? Are these killings ordered by God, G-d or Allah, or are they ordered by mortal men who find in religion a useful tool to further their own very earthly goals ?

Where? In France? in Spain? in America? in the UK? Don't talk rot. Name one place where there is ChristianMuslim fights and theChristian community isn't continuously on the defensive? Nigeria, Pakistan, indonesia, the Phillipines etc.
30 posted on 05/26/2004 6:09:54 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Drawsing; Atlantic Friend

Plus, they go to the celestial virginns and young boys.


31 posted on 05/26/2004 6:10:55 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: BayouCoyote
Pigs be upon him!

Well put. I'm glad to see that there are more of my fellow freeepers who see the cult for what it really is.
32 posted on 05/26/2004 6:11:43 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: SiliconValleyGuy
Sure the Koran has it's violent parts, but most Muslims are not terrorists

Poll in the Salmic world -- kill the infidels? a near 100% agreement. Why? Because Shariah and the Koran say that that is their duty. IF they do that they will get 72perpetuual virginns and young boys to deflowwer over and over agin.
33 posted on 05/26/2004 6:13:08 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: LadyDoc
Islam as a whole is a wonderful religion that stresses obedience to God's will, prayer, and compassion.

Says you

You want to criticize these versions of Islam? Fine. And criticize the KKK, the Spanish Inquisition...

We do

If we were fighting one billion people, we'd have more than 800 casualties in one year.

My boss is muslim and I am shaking with emotion when I say our relationship can be summed up by..."Find and slay the pagans [non-Muslims] wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them, in every stratagem (of war);"

The muslims at my job gleefully fantasize about suitcase nukes. Period. I would love to hear about some America loving muslims. I'm waiting...
34 posted on 05/26/2004 6:14:32 AM PDT by Vision (Always Faithful)
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To: Atlantic Friend
And which verse in the Bible says that you should go out and slaughter infidels? There is a verse that says you should preach the message. Is there any that says you should preach it with a sword? NO.

Go read the Bible first and then the Koran. I suspect you haven't read either in depth.
35 posted on 05/26/2004 6:15:21 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Vision
The muslims at my job gleefully fantasize about suitcase nukes

Which loonie bin do you work in?????
36 posted on 05/26/2004 6:16:07 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: Vision; LadyDoc; swarthyguy; RussianConservative
If we were fighting one billion people, we'd have more than 800 casualties in one year.

And Lady doc where DO you get the 800 casualties from? Just fromthe Gulf liberation? What about afghanistan, Pakistan, Nigeria, India, the Phjillipines, Chechnya, Spain, the UK, Sudan, Ethiopia, Kenya, etc. etc.?? that figure would run to 10s of thousands per year.
37 posted on 05/26/2004 6:18:35 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: GBA
Even better, tell me one slammmic place that has a true democracy? And Turkey's militarry governnment doesn't count. India's elections put a lie to all their excuses. These coutnries are filthy rich. yet, they have beggars and have to import labour because their own people are lazy.

Ove rhte past 50 years, the slammie world has barely progressed while East Asia, Latin America and South Asia have mvoed ahead.
38 posted on 05/26/2004 6:21:12 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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To: LadyDoc

12th century death cult.


39 posted on 05/26/2004 6:22:00 AM PDT by petercooper (Islam is not a religion of peace. It's a sadistic death cult.)
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To: petercooper
12th century death cult.

Actually, 7th century, it is 1400 years old.
40 posted on 05/26/2004 6:22:44 AM PDT by Cronos (W2K4)
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