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Bad Cartoons Make Bad Citizens
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| 5/27/04
| Doug Kern
Posted on 05/27/2004 7:25:15 AM PDT by qam1
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To: general_re
The title of the short you're thinking of is "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips".They had that one and several others like it on this special that runs on the Cartoon Network occasionally (Had 'Herr meets Hare, the Ductators I think, etc.). I believe the special is an hour long, and it's called "Cartoons at War" or something like that.
CN also does specials or have hours devoted to some of the "classic" cartoonists of the '30s, '40s, etc. and you'll see some of those. Some of them were quite racy (Tex Avery, etc.). You won't find them on the broadcast networks. I never knew just how racy they were until later on when I was older. Most of it went right over my head when I was a kid.
Granted, it's Cartoon Network, they don't exactly show PC kid-fare every evening - they have some cartoons that are very un-PC.
Cartoon Network has also been fighting Warner Brothers and some of the other studios/estates for years, to show some of the un-PC cartoons, and occasionally they win or pull it off in someway that they don't get in trouble legally.
If WB had their way, I think all of those cartoons would have been destroyed.
To: discostu
I hated the Smurfs. I despised them with every fiber of my teenage being. I wished torturous hot death on them. I hated them more than I hated the freakin' Shmoo, which should tell y'all the depth of my hatred for the Smurfs.
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:43:39 AM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(No one will be sitting in sackcloth and ashes crying, "Oh, if only we had listened to Art Bell!")
To: qam1
To: tiamat
That's my old roommate's puppy, Ralph. He doesn't yap, unless it's deserved.
104
posted on
05/27/2004 11:51:43 AM PDT
by
rabidralph
(EPIC=Extra Pretty in Color)
To: rabidralph
He's cute!
( and I like him if he doesn't yap...)
105
posted on
05/27/2004 11:55:08 AM PDT
by
tiamat
("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
To: atomicpossum; All
atomicpossum wrote:
Are you trying to start a Race war???
Race-ism is one of the most pressing problems we face. To paraphrase Dr. King, I suggest that we be judged by only 'by the content of our cartoon character.'
Actually, I can help you and everybody else determine who their "Inner Toon" is!
This is a fun thing I got in my e-mail. Thought I would share.
I am SpongeBob SquarePants! Who are YOU?
Everyone has the personality of a cartoon character. Have you ever asked yourself what cartoon character do you most resemble?
A group of investigators got together and analyzed the personalities of well know modern cartoon characters. The information that was gathered was made into this test.
Answer all the questions with what describes you best,
Add up all your points at the end and look for your results.
1) Which one of the following describes the perfect date?
a) Candlelight dinner
b) Fun/Theme Park
c) Painting in the park
d) Rock concert
e) Going to the movies
2) What is your favorite type of music?
a) Rock and Roll
b) Alternative
c) Soft Rock
d) Country
e) Pop
3) What type of movies do you prefer?
a) Comedy
b) Horror
c) Musical
d) Romance
e) Documentary
4) Which one of these occupations would you choose if you only could
choose one of these?
a) Waiter
b) Professional Sports Player
c) Teacher
d) Police
e) Cashier
5) What do you do with your spare time?
a) Exercise
b) Read
c) Watch television
d) Listen to music
e) Sleep
6) Which one of the following colors do you like best?
a) Yellow
b) White
c) Sky Blue
d) Dark Blue
e) Red
7) What do you prefer to eat right now?
a) Snow
b) Pizza
c) Sushi
d) Pasta
e) Salad
8) What is your favorite Holiday?
a) Halloween
b) Christmas
c) New Year
d) Valentines Day
e) Thanksgiving
9) If you could go to one of these places which one would it be?
a) Paris
b) Spain
c) Las Vegas
d) Hawaii
e) Hollywood
10) With which of the following would you prefer to spend time with?
a) Someone Smart
b) Someone attractive
c) Someone who likes to Party
d) Someone who always has fun
e) Someone very sentimental
Now add up your points and find out the answer you have been waiting
for!
1.) a-4 b-2 c-5 d-1 e-3
2.) a-2 b-1 c-4 d-5 e-3
3.) a-2 b-1 c-3 d-4 e-5
4.) a-4 b-5 c-3 d-2 e-1
5.) a-5 b-4 c-2 d-1 e-3
6.) a-1 b-5 c-3 d-2 e-4
7.) a-3 b-2 c-1 d-4 e-5
8.) a-1 b-3 c-2 d-4 e-5
9.) a-4 b-5 c-1 d-4 e-3
10.) a-5 b-2 c-1 d-3 e-4
(10-16 points) You are Garfield: You are very comfortable, easy going,
and you definitely know how to have fun but sometimes you take it to an
extreme. You always know what you are doing and you are always in
control of your life. Others may not see things as you do, but that
doesn't mean that you always have to do what is right. Try to remember
your happy spirit may hurt you or others.
(18-26 points) You are Snoopy: You are fun, you are very cool and
popular. You always know what's in and you never are out of style. You
are good at knowing how to satisfy everyone else. You have probably
disappeared for a few days more than once but you always come home withthe family values that you earned. Being married and having children
are important to you, but only after you have had your share of fun times.
(22-28 points) You are Arnold: You have lots of friends and you are
alsopopular, always willing to give advice and help out a person in need.
You are very optimistic and you always see the bright side of things.
Some good advice: try not to be too much of a dreamer, if not you will
have many conflicts with life.
(29-34 points) You are Sponge Bob Square Pants: You are the classic
person that everyone loves. You are the best friend that anyone could
ever have and never want to lose. You never cause harm to anyone and
they would never not understand your feelings. Life is a journey, it's
funny and calm for the most part. Stay away from traitors and jealous
people, then you will be stress free.
(35-42 points) You are Charlie Brown: You are tender, you fall in love
quickly but you are also very serious about all relationships. You are
afamily person. You call your mom every Sunday. You have many friends
andmay occasionally forget a few Birthdays. Don't let your passion confuse you with reality.
(43-50 points) You are Dexter: You are smart and definitely a thinker.
Every situation is fronted with a plan. You have a brilliant mind. You
Demonstrate very strong family principles. Maintain a stable routine
butnever ignore a bad situation when it comes.
( I am Sponge Bob, BTW!)
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posted on
05/27/2004 11:59:36 AM PDT
by
tiamat
("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
To: RightWingAtheist
RightWingAtheist wrote:
Oh man, I just realized that I had the most DEPRIVED childhood imaginable. On Saturday mornings, I had to endure Turbo Teen, Carebears, Snorks, the Monchichis, and, so help me, RUBIK THE AMAZING CUBE, with the guy who played Horseshack on Welcome Back Kotter voicing the titular character. At least Muppet Babies was good.
Eeeeewwwwww.
You poor thing!
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:02:14 PM PDT
by
tiamat
("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno-World!")
To: qam1
I wasn't really into cartoons, but LOVED both the old Lone Ranger and the Cisco Kid series...
To: BenLurkin
Yea but Johnny Quest was not a Saturday morning cartoon the original whole first run was as a summer time replacement show in early or pre prime time (7PM) shows like the Flintstones where.
Johnny Quest was adult enough for the whole family to watch with the adult stuff going over the kids heads (remember Race & Jade
)
Oddly the best cartoons were always written for a mix ages audiences
The Bug Bunny and alike cartoons were originally for the movies mix ages audiences
Rocky and Bullwinkle while always for TV had tons of adult stuff in it going over the kids heads
.
The best cartoon are not simple pabulum that someone thinks they need to feeds to the kitty for there own good.
There more a tasted of the adult world cut up in to little bites that a kid can digest more and more of at there own pace as they grow up till there ready to move on to the real world
To: qam1
Nope. Started in the 1970s. Look up ACT - Action for Childrens' Television.
I think that the "edumacational" lesson at the end of GI Joe and He-Man were because there needed to be an "educational" component (something of "value") added on to what was a glorified toy commercial.
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:13:27 PM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: af_vet_rr
When Cartoon Network gets around to showing something with as much overt sex, violence, and racism as Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarves, get back to me.
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:14:50 PM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: weegee
You need to check out the dvd set of Looney Tunes that were released around last Christmas. It's called the Golden Collection or something like that. Outstanding collection of the old cartoons. It has has a ton of vintage footage, and some of the first cartoons made. These include several that won't be seen on tv today.
Another great set you can get are the Tex Avery cartoons on VHS. You can get those unedited, including all the explosions causing black-face and all that. I have 4 videos of his great cartoons. It has everything from Screwy Squirrel, Droopy, Spike, and that Confederate Wolf that always whistled that funny dixie song. "Real cool maaaan."
Luckily I have a copy of Song of the South that I got in London about 10 years ago. I need to get that thing transferred to DVD so I can keep a good copy of it. I remember seeing that when I was a child (I'm 27 now). I think it's a great show and a wonderful story.
112
posted on
05/27/2004 12:15:18 PM PDT
by
GOPyouth
(De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
To: af_vet_rr
We love Cartoon Network. "Family Guy" is one of our fave shows, and where else can you see Space Ghost? Much less Space Ghost interviewing Mike Judge?
I almost hurt myself laughing when Judge said, "Boy, it doesn't get any better than this!" as Hank Hill, Beavis, Butt-Head, Mr. Buzzcut, Mr. Van Driesen, and Principal McVicker.
113
posted on
05/27/2004 12:15:54 PM PDT
by
Xenalyte
(No one will be sitting in sackcloth and ashes crying, "Oh, if only we had listened to Art Bell!")
To: tophat9000
You are correct. Unfortunately today's prime-time cartoons like the Simpsons aren't really appropriate fare for kids at all anymore. There are a few gags that may go over kids heads (like when 2 words are used in succession to say something obscene that they normally couldn't say on tv). These are more than enuendo or double entendres.
At what point did "adult" humor change to only mean dirty jokes?
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:18:03 PM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: GOPyouth
I might add that you can get the old Tom and Jerry cartoons on DVD undedited. Those were some of my favorite. These are all the cartoons from around 1940-1950.
They all have the maid that beats Thomas, Jerry's uncle that plays the guitar and sings Froggy Went a Courtin', and a ton of other great clips.
115
posted on
05/27/2004 12:19:01 PM PDT
by
GOPyouth
(De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
To: GOPyouth
I've got the Complete Tex Avery laserdisc boxed set (it even includes Uncle Tom's Cabana although Turner almost didn't release it). It has all the MGM Avery shorts (there are still WB shorts and Universal's Chilly Willy shorts needed to be "complete").
There is a complete Tex Avery DVD set but it is only available from France. I don't know if the French subtitles are forced on or if you can turn them off (you would also need an R2 or Region Free, PAL capable DVD player; I have one but have held off on this DVD set).
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:21:19 PM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: GOPyouth
Ah, but which maid? Mammy Two-Shoes? The white (Irish?) woman? And which voice does she have (sometimes they were released to video with the wrong overdub soundtracks!).
Cartoon censorship has been big since 1968 (I am talking about re-editing the old cartoons).
117
posted on
05/27/2004 12:23:27 PM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
To: Brett66
I could never get past the premise of them raising the Imperial Japanese Battleship "IJN Yamato" and making it a spaceship
.The U.S. Navy sunk that tub in WW2 and by jim it should stay sunk:>
To: weegee
It's sad these classic cartoons aren't being released in America. The Tex Avery shorts are HI-larious. You can't go wrong with the Swing Shift Cinderella cartoon with the old wrinkled Godmother knocking back that big ass martini glass with one gulp. heh heh :)
119
posted on
05/27/2004 12:25:40 PM PDT
by
GOPyouth
(De Oppresso Liber! The Tyrant is captured!)
To: GOPyouth
Disney permitted Song Of The South to be released to laserdisc in Japan and Hong Kong and to VHS in England and Ireland. I don't know where else it was released.
This shows that Disney's suppression of this film is because of protests in America; they seem to stand behind the film as a corporation in other countries where it does not draw any outrage.
Now that DVD permits any nation's media to be viewed in America (region blocking and PAL/NTSC are really such minute matters), I don't see Disney Corp. ever permitting Song Of The South to be issued again. And for those who say they don't like the scenes of happy singing slaves, this film takes place AFTER the civil war.
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posted on
05/27/2004 12:27:02 PM PDT
by
weegee
(NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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