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Vatican Appoints Cardinal Law Head of Rome Basilica
Fox News ^ | May 27, 2004 | Associated Press

Posted on 05/27/2004 8:50:34 AM PDT by ZULU

Vatican Appoints Cardinal Law Head of Rome Basilica

Thursday, May 27, 2004

VATICAN CITY — Pope John Paul II (search) on Thursday gave Cardinal Bernard F. Law (search) an official position in Rome, naming the former Boston archbishop who resigned in the sex abuse scandal as head of a basilica.

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To: Truth666

What publication did you get THAT piece of trash fron?


21 posted on 05/27/2004 9:38:03 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Polycarp IV

How does one go about reconciling this, Polycarp.

Need some help here. Thanks.


22 posted on 05/27/2004 9:38:16 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: JesseHousman
The Church, under the present pope has anesthetized natural reactions to the invasion of Europe by Muslims and their countless agressions against Catholics all over the world. Haven't these vatican leaders, under Pope John Paul II played a role in promoting Islam and betrayed the Catholic cause?
What end does the dialogue with voodooism achieve? Receiving, encouraging and defending representatives of the voodoo cult promotes the cult of satan.


October 27 1986 - at the Basilica of St Francis of Assisi in Assisi Italy, John Paul hosted an historic prayer meeting of leaders of the world's religions. To some observers, it heralded the much-hoped-for One World Religion. It represented a precedent for a United Religions organisation that might prove the salvation of the world, preserving peace and security. They saw in it a great sign of the times and a coming together - even "a second Pentecost."

<---------- at this point there are still excuses for not seeing ...
23 posted on 05/27/2004 9:39:15 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

Well... they may not be able to keep a bunch of their parishes open, but at least they can give Law a cushy retirement... I'm glad to see that the church has re-examined it's priorities in light of the molestation scandals...


24 posted on 05/27/2004 9:39:32 AM PDT by Stone Mountain
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To: ZULU

This action mirrors the years of clerical hide and seek that the Bishops played with offending priests. Move 'em around, move 'em up, hide the evidence. Such blatant disregard for the victims of priestly pedophilia should come as no surprise to Catholics and non-Catholics alike. It's a typical reaction of a tin-ear Church.


25 posted on 05/27/2004 9:41:56 AM PDT by Use It Or Lose It (Al Gore: The real voice of the Democrat Party.)
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To: Stone Mountain
Law himself was named in hundreds of lawsuits accusing him of failing to protect children from known child molesters. Ten months after his departure, Law's successor, Archbishop Sean P. O'Malley, helped to broker an

$85 million settlement agreement

with more than 550 victims of clergy sex abuse.
So far for the money in Boston.
26 posted on 05/27/2004 9:43:07 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

"...To some observers, it heralded the much-hoped-for One World Religion..."

The whole issue of a "one world religion" is the DEFINITION of "Catholic". This has never been any secret agenda. Having dialogue between the different faiths to find common ground is a good thing. I support embracing the common ground between diversified faiths. That's a whole lot different than a "one-world government". JPII is not against soverignity or capatilism. He has come out and clearly stated that. Its what we DO with that gift that is and always will be an issue.


27 posted on 05/27/2004 9:43:31 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: JesseHousman
September 26 1997 - an earthquake rocked the town and caused the roof of the basilica of St Francis of Assisi to collapse, killing two Franciscan brothers and damaging the Giotto frescos.
Catholics lost the ability to see the signs of God - they still may claim to have an excuse here ...
28 posted on 05/27/2004 9:46:37 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: ZULU

I'm not quite up on all the details of the scandal, so forgive me if this question is a bit out of line, but...

I assume that Cardinal Law will have to move to Rome to fulfill his new ceremonial duties. Are there possible criminal charges headed his way over the scandal? Does this get him out of the country and away from possible prosecution, or perhaps lawsuits?

I honestly think that some people in the Vatican--perhaps the Pope himself--don't quite understand how this looks. They aren't looking at things with a wide enough viewpoint.

}:-)4


29 posted on 05/27/2004 9:46:54 AM PDT by Moose4 (Yes, it's just an excuse for me to post more pictures of my cats. Deal with it.)
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To: Askel5
What is there to reconcile? Sometimes the higher-ups at the Vatican act like the secular jerks that rule the rest of this world, the Pope included.

Unfortunately, Papal Infallibility does not gaurantee against pure stupidity and arrogance in prudential judgements like this one.

30 posted on 05/27/2004 9:47:19 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Truth666
Unfortunately, Truth, many of today's Catholics "attending mass" don't care. They waltz into the architecturally trendy buildings bubbling over with personal conversations as if they knew there was nothing important going to happen within the next hour.

In the summer they wear shorts and meander up where one of the lay distributors will lay a Host in their hand and they mechanically shove It into their mouth while singing the "communion hymn" which is taken out of a Protestant hymnal.

Nobody hangs back in the pew because everybody is in possession of a soul recently cleansed of sin through the giving of a good confession and receiving absolution.

31 posted on 05/27/2004 9:49:02 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: Polycarp IV

Its true. Being a "good and holy man" does not mean that he is incapable of mistakes. Infallibility is only an issue with matters of dogma, not politics and business administration. This is an administrative decision that is sending a very bad message. I don't care WHO is behind the decision, its bad and with us Catholics, the buck stops at JPII. Its a good thing that God will be the judge and not us mere mortals.


32 posted on 05/27/2004 9:50:40 AM PDT by Integrityrocks
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To: Polycarp IV
"Papal Infallibility does not gaurantee against pure stupidity"
JP II has been PERFECT in his mission. No failures. What you are saying nothing but looking for an excuse not to see how PERFECT he has been. But it's long ago since the day where there are no more excuses ...
33 posted on 05/27/2004 9:51:55 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666

I assume yours is a sarcastic post?


34 posted on 05/27/2004 9:54:12 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV

Not at all.


35 posted on 05/27/2004 9:55:18 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: ZULU
wouldn't lay this charge at Pope Paul II, REGARDLESS of what the "Vatican" states. Pope Paul has lived a long and valiant life. But I am convinced he is no longer running the show, making decisions, or functioning as the head of the Church. He should be retired to a place of comfort and a new successor chosen.

I think the only hope for the Church in the new future is for that successor to be from South America or Africa. JPII is a relic of a bygone era, he proves everday he cannot lead the church thru the coming assault by Islam.

If another euro-weinee is made Pope you can just write off most of Europe as a Islamic protectorate.

36 posted on 05/27/2004 9:57:52 AM PDT by kjvail (Light 'em up George!!!!)
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To: Truth666
JP II has been PERFECT in his mission. No failures. What you are saying nothing but looking for an excuse not to see how PERFECT he has been.

I have nothing but the highest regard for Pope JPII's personal holiness and orthodoxy on moral theology issues.

I think he has been lacking in administrative duties as well as in enforcing liturgical discipline, and he has said recently that church discipline is an area of personal regret and remourse for him looking back on his pontificate.

You will look long and hard to find anywhere on this Forum or elsewhere for examples of my criticizing Pope JPII, except today, in this area where he has criticized himself.

So direct your criticism elsewhere in this regard.

37 posted on 05/27/2004 10:06:15 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Polycarp IV

My critiscism is that you didn't realise what's his mission.


38 posted on 05/27/2004 10:09:09 AM PDT by Truth666
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To: Truth666
you didn't realise what's his mission

Please educate me. In your opinion, what exactly IS his mission. Don't beat around the bush. If you're saying he is laying the groundwork for the New World Order and its One World Religion, just say so. Please be clear.

39 posted on 05/27/2004 10:11:51 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic--without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: Truth666
Jesus Christ is the sinless, only Son of God, and in fact, is God Himself. He was crucified, died, and arose again, and is alive. He will reign forever. He was born of a virgin. He is one with God the Father and The Holy Spirit, in the Holy Trinity.

His Church on earth will render Satan, the serpent, under its feet for good, in total victory at the end of time.

His Church is the apostolic and universal Holy Roman Catholic Church.

Any questions?

40 posted on 05/27/2004 10:14:15 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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