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U.S. visas still contentious but officials... (UE will help us to abolish visas to the USA...)
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Posted on 05/28/2004 5:32:16 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246

U.S. visas still contentious, but officials keep mum about dialog details

EU Interior Affairs Commissioner Antonio Vittorino once again appealed to the USA yesterday to waive entrance visas for the citizens of the new EU member countries.

While both Richard Boucher, a spokesperson for the U.S. State Department, and Pietro Petrucci, a spokesperson for the EU, refused to reveal any details of the talks, Rzeczpospolita has claimed the Americans are willing to take into account the fact that Poland and the other Central Europe entrants, have all joined up to the Schengen agreement concerning the waiving of the passport controls within the EU. Furthermore, according to Polish diplomats, citizens of this country will be able to enter the USA without requiring visas come 2007. Among 'old' EU members, only Greek citizens still require a visa to enter the USA.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bice; eu; immigration; poland; stdept; ue; visa
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1 posted on 05/28/2004 5:32:17 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246
"...concerning the waiving of the passport controls within the EU. "

This is a time in our history and the history of the world when we need to "tighten up" and not "loosen up." This has to be the craziest thing I've ever heard of.

2 posted on 05/28/2004 5:39:50 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: davisfh

"This is a time in our history and the history of the world when we need to "tighten up" and not "loosen up." This has to be the craziest thing I've ever heard of."

Sorry but I don't know what you mean.


3 posted on 05/28/2004 5:46:22 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: davisfh
What we need most of all is that most 'verboten' of practices -- profiling! Yes, racial/religious based profiling, targeting especially mid-eastern males from 18-50 and their anglo 'convert' brethren. I am afraid it will take more mega-death in America (courtesy of world wide Islamic jihad) before real immigration restrictions become politically acceptable.

Most Americans are reluctant to accept that we are in a real war, one produced in the ME, not Hollywood, with no opt-out. We can't just change the channel on this one, a reality yet to fully sink in with the American public.

P.S. And never, NEVER take our lead from what the euro-twits are doing.

4 posted on 05/28/2004 6:28:05 AM PDT by ARepublicanForAllReasons (A socialist is just a communist who has run out of bullets.)
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To: Grzegorz 246
Somebody want to explain this line:
"Among 'old' EU members, only Greek citizens still require a visa to enter the USA."
We already don't require a visa from nearly all of Europe??
5 posted on 05/28/2004 6:51:34 AM PDT by norton
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To: ARepublicanForAllReasons
"Yes, racial/religious based profiling, targeting especially mid-eastern males from 18-50 and their anglo 'convert' brethren. "

especially mid-eastern males ?
why?
6 posted on 05/28/2004 6:55:58 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: norton

Last time you traveled to Europe, were you required to get a visa?


7 posted on 05/28/2004 6:58:54 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: norton
We already don't require a visa from nearly all of Europe??

There are about 30 or so nations whose citizens don't require visas to enter into the US, including most of Europe, Canada and (I believe) Japan.

8 posted on 05/28/2004 9:18:18 AM PDT by Modernman (Work is the curse of the drinking classes. -Oscar Wilde)
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To: Grzegorz 246; ARepublicanForAllReasons

See post #4.


9 posted on 05/28/2004 11:12:49 AM PDT by davisfh
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To: norton

up to 90 days


10 posted on 05/28/2004 11:17:33 AM PDT by americanbychoice2
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To: Modernman

To 8 and 10:

Given that most of europe aleady does not need a visa - what's the hue and cry all about?

Instead of "EU will help ..get rid of visas" shouldn't we be saying "Visas need to be reinstated for everyone - period"?

[sorry about the unintended private post]


11 posted on 05/28/2004 1:34:50 PM PDT by norton
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To: 1rudeboy

Well, I have been to New York recently and, no, I didn't need a visa there.


12 posted on 05/28/2004 1:42:03 PM PDT by norton (I refuse to make this into a bad word joke.)
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To: norton
"Given that most of Europe already does not need a visa - what's the hue and cry all about? "

I need visa. The most important is that I have little chance to get get.
Believe me that I don't cry, but...
13 posted on 05/28/2004 1:49:40 PM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: Grzegorz 246

I'm guessing that means you are Greek?

Makes no sense to give a pass to half the world and then complain that the EU is somehow involved.

I'd rather see everyone screened to the same criteria and then grant a visa according to size of the country of origin or degree that we need special skills etc.

Of course, by my criteria mexico, most of africa, and most of the islamic world would be denied visas on general principals...you're either with us or against us.

[Just to show how far I am from the State Department's way of thinking, Greece and Yugoslavia would be high on my list for eased entry requirements]


14 posted on 05/28/2004 9:12:25 PM PDT by norton
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To: 1rudeboy

My Great Grandparents Left Europe because its a cess pool of old building and ideas why would I go back?


15 posted on 05/28/2004 9:41:13 PM PDT by KingNo155
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To: norton

"I'm guessing that means you are Greek? "

No, I'm not Greek. Look at my location.


16 posted on 05/29/2004 4:51:49 AM PDT by Grzegorz 246
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To: KingNo155
Well, then. Because you don't want to travel to Europe, you think the rest of us should get visas. Never mind the fact that passport ID technology has passed them by.
17 posted on 05/31/2004 3:32:25 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: norton

In other words, you don't know. In other words, we should require visas from countries that don't require them of us. Sounds like a plan. Let's add a layer of bureaucracy and do nothing for security. /sarc


18 posted on 05/31/2004 3:35:11 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

You're right, I did not know.
Sorry but you can't sue me for that.
And, yes, I do think we should require a visa from everyone stepping across the border. Not to say that some do in fact have a reason to come across repeatedly, but it ain't like you had to renew the things every wednesday.

I want fingerprints and a confirmed residence, sponsor, or place of business.


19 posted on 05/31/2004 4:17:41 PM PDT by norton
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To: norton
That can be done with a passport. In fact, it can be done easier with a passport.
20 posted on 05/31/2004 4:43:57 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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