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Confirmed! The New York Times is ACTUALLY Plotting to Oust Bush! (actual, first-hand source)
5-18-04

Posted on 05/28/2004 7:14:34 AM PDT by jmstein7

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Could be...


61 posted on 05/28/2004 8:10:01 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I was over reading this piece, and I wonder if there might be a connection:


62 posted on 05/28/2004 8:10:23 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The terrorists and their supporters declared war on the United States - and war is what they got!!!!)
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To: Osage Orange
O'Reilly didn't believe it...and vigorously defended his beliefs that the media WASN'T biased.

That's a similar attitude to those on the panel on Fox News Watch. They are so biased, it is ridiculous, but they don't even recognize it.
63 posted on 05/28/2004 8:13:07 AM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: jmstein7
Circumstantial evidence about the NY Times and its political bent is commonplace.

Was this unnamed buddy of yours actually at the meeting?

64 posted on 05/28/2004 8:13:17 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: TrueBeliever9
"The Gospel According to the New York Times: How the World's Most Powerful News Organization Shapes Your Mind and Values by William Proctor A MUST READ!"

Another one is "Journalistic Fraud" by Bob Kohn. A detailed, dissection of how the NYT uses their pages to play with your mind. Unbelievable. Well------ not unbelievable, ---after all it IS the NYTimes!

65 posted on 05/28/2004 8:13:28 AM PDT by Exit148 (Loose Change Club is adding another weekly $2.88. Total now- $17.32. It adds up!!!)
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To: Osage Orange

And not just DemoLeftistMarxistSocialistLyingLibs but mind-numbed, robot-like, knee-jerk Liberals to boot!~


67 posted on 05/28/2004 8:19:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: All

BUMP!


68 posted on 05/28/2004 8:26:20 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: jmstein7

New York Times nothing. This is the agenda of the entire media establishment and even FoxNews is a willing accomplice every time they parrot the party line. They're all outraged over the prisoner abuse scandal but Sept. 11th was nothing but a "tragedy" (they talk about it like it was a bus accident).


69 posted on 05/28/2004 8:36:56 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (All the good taglines are taken...)
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To: All
Only idiots would vote for a traitor.

My favorite post for DUmmies and trolls.

"I’m an internationalist. I’d like to see our troops dispersed through [sic] the world
only at the directive of the United Nations."
Hanoi John Kerry, The Harvard Crimson, 1970


HANOI KERRY
has a Campaign Platform
Just like the old days!


"It is a fact that in the entire Vietnam War we did not lose one major battle.
We lost the war at home and at home John Kerry was the field general"

- Bob Elder, Swift Boat Veteran For Truth


"I do not believe John Kerry is fit to be commander in chief of the U.S. armed forces,"
said retired Rear Adm. Roy Hoffmann, chairman of the organization.
"This is not a political issue. It is a matter of honesty."


I was there the same time Hanoi Kerry was.
I served on the destroyer USS Corry DD-817 which supplied PCF's and PBR's
and gave gunfire support in North AND South Viet Nam.
My ship may have even supplied Hanoi Kerry's boat.
I VOW I will do everything I LEGALLY can
to keep this traitor from being elected.
68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub



The book that Kerry
wishes would just go away.
HanoiJohnKerry.com is a blog with a primary purpose. That purpose is to counter the preposterous claims of Sen. John Forbes Kerry (D-MA) that he has any legitimate claim to any sort of "brotherhood" among combat veterans of the War in Vietnam.

While it is generally supposed that his service as a Naval officer on a "Swift Boat" in that theater was adequate and honorable, there is much to question regarding his readiness to allow the accolade "war hero" to be applied to him.

Likewise, it is not at all uncommon for more senior Naval officers to raise an eyebrow at the swiftness and relative comfort by which Lt. JG Kerry attained those medals, and who is available to vouch for the efficacy of his being awarded them (since, as boat commander, it would be his own task to make recommendation for awards for all personnel, including himself, on the Swift Boat).

But most egregious was his conduct, words and associations upon his early-out (from SEA) return to the USA and discharge from the US Navy. His leadership role with the radical pro-Communist (inaccurate to deem this group "anti-war") group called "Vietnam Veterans Against the [Vietnam] War" (hereafter VVAW).

It was while climbing the social and political ladder of the pro-Soviet Left as a principle of VVAW that John Kerry found his political soul-mate in Hanoi Jane Fonda. Granted, these politically formative years for Kerry were prior to the more outlandish acts of Fonda that earned her that name, but it is easily documentable that Fonda did not under go any radical transformation in belief or character from the time she and Kerry were working the same side of the street to the time she traveled to Hanoi, NVN and entered US history as the most overt traitor to ever NOT be charged, tried and executed.

John Kerry went to his own overt extremes to demonstrate that, politically, socially and in lowness of character, there wasn't a nickel's worth of difference between he and Fonda. Thus, in the spirit of fairness and accuracy, we are reasonably certain that he will be agreeably flattered by calling him Hanoi John Kerry.

Here, testifying before the Fulbright Senate Foreign Relations Committee, is where John Kerry, spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, cemented his position and moniker as "Hanoi John" Kerry. This was the occasion where US troops still in the field in Vietnam learned from one of their FORMER brothers-in-arms that they were heinous murderers and war criminals. HJK would now like to call on them for support in his bid to be the new Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces. Perhaps the most preposterous hypocrisy of all.




70 posted on 05/28/2004 8:44:19 AM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Jane and Hanoi Kerry sitting in a tree)
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To: jmstein7; EdReform; Alamo-Girl; onyx; ALOHA RONNIE; SpookBrat; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; ...
O'Reilly also accused the LA Times of the same thing last night on his show.

Confirmed! The New York Times is
ACTUALLY Plotting to Oust Bush!
(actual, first-hand source)

Excerpt:

Apparently, Bill O'Reilly had a segment on his show last night where he accused the New York Times of having an agenda to oust Bush -- for example, they have had the Prisoner Abuse story on the front page of the Times for 28 days in a row, even though there has been no news for 10 days (even to the point of relegating the story about the seven terror suspects to the middle pages of the paper).

There was an editors' meeting at the Times this morning.  The O'Reilly piece was a subject of conversation.  But, during the discussion, one of the editors actually said that they would have to alter their "strategy" to be less overt and draw less public criticism from the likes of O'Reilly! 


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my General Interest ping list!. . .don't be shy.


71 posted on 05/28/2004 8:55:55 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: EdReform; jmstein7
even to the point of relegating the story about the seven terror suspects to the middle pages of the paper

Yep! I think O'Reilly said that story rode on page A-16 ??


72 posted on 05/28/2004 9:00:04 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Tree of Liberty

The idea of mailing O'Rielly is good. Maybe he'd LIKE a second-hand info leaker at the NYT for a permanent source


73 posted on 05/28/2004 9:00:23 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: EdReform; jmstein7


74 posted on 05/28/2004 9:01:07 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: jmstein7
What do you mean "The New York Times is ACTUALLY plotting to oust Bush".? This is garbage. Sensationalist nonsense. As written, it indicates that they are planning a coup d' etat or to forcibly remove him from office.

What you mean is that they are actively campaigning against him, don't you? Well, duh!

We're talking editorial bias here, right, not the commission of a crime? Big deal.

75 posted on 05/28/2004 9:03:01 AM PDT by marshmallow
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To: jmstein7

Confirmed!  The New York Times is ACTUALLY Plotting to Oust Bush!

< -snip- >

The editor didn't say specifically that there was a "strategy" to oust Bush, but the editor did imply that there is some sort of strategy "at play" in the Editorial board at the Times.  This is the first time I've heard actual proof of a coordinated effort there to actually campaign against the President and damage him.

So, there you have it -- the New York Times is actually at war with the Bush administration.

Actually, it's difficult to reconcile your headline with the statement in bold.

If the "editor didn't say specifically that there was a "strategy" to oust Bush," how have you "confirmed" that the "New York Times is ACTUALLY Plotting to Oust Bush?"

They may well be hatching such a plot, but it doesn't appear to me that you've confirmed anything.


76 posted on 05/28/2004 9:11:52 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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To: Sabertooth
They may well be hatching such a plot, but it doesn't appear to me that you've confirmed anything.

No soup for you!

77 posted on 05/28/2004 9:13:33 AM PDT by js1138 (In a minute there is time, for decisions and revisions which a minute will reverse. J Forbes Kerry)
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To: muawiyah
You wrote:

"And not just DemoLeftistMarxistSocialistLyingLibs but mind-numbed, robot-like, knee-jerk Liberals to boot!~"

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Roger that..!!

Hehehe...

78 posted on 05/28/2004 9:56:49 AM PDT by Osage Orange (STOP REPEAT OFFENDERS..!! DON'T RE-ELECT THEM..!!)
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To: RandallFlagg

Dear Lurker,
A nice voice recording as proof would also be nice...


79 posted on 05/28/2004 9:57:53 AM PDT by BushisTheMan
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To: jmstein7

We always knew but having it confirmed. That's even better. This needs to be circulated far and wide.


80 posted on 05/28/2004 9:58:18 AM PDT by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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