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Governor (Schwarzenegger) repeats backing for license bill
Mercury News ^ | 5/28/04 | Andrew LaMar

Posted on 05/28/2004 1:19:02 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Thursday renewed his support for granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants -- if security issues can be resolved.

The governor's pledge in a private meeting with Latino legislators appeared to ease their concerns. They had feared Schwarzenegger had reneged on a promise to negotiate new legislation to replace a law he pushed the Legislature to repeal last fall.

It's clear ``there is a willingness to try to find a compromise that is acceptable to both sides,'' said Sen. Deborah Ortiz, D-Sacramento.

It's uncertain how quickly Schwarzenegger and the legislators can reach a deal, and how committed the governor is to resolution.

(Excerpt) Read more at mercurynews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; backing; calgov2002; cedillo; illegals; licensebill; repeats; schwarzenegger
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To: Amerigomag
Garamendi: Workers' compensation insurance rates should drop

Published 12:27 pm PDT Friday, May 28, 2004

[Updated at 4:35 p.m.] Setting a benchmark test for two years of cost-cutting legislation, Insurance Commissioner John Garamendi called Friday for workers' compensation insurance rate cuts of nearly 21 percent starting July 1. "California is now on the down escalator," Garamendi said at a door factory in North Highlands. "Now insurance companies have no reason whatsoever not to pass on to the businesses of California a 20.9 percent reduction in the cost of claims and their premiums."

Garamendi held a news conference to announce a new pure premium advisory rate, a benchmark that many workers' comp insurers use in setting the cost of their policies.

His suggested cut is based on two years of legislation designed to curb skyrocketing increases in workers' comp insurance prices and is aimed at policies sold or renewed starting July 1.

21 posted on 05/28/2004 7:20:28 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ... Become a FR Monthly Donor ... Kerry thread archive @ /~normsrevenge)
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To: FairOpinion; Carry_Okie
So, I guess he is in favor of it then. Some quotes from the link you posted:
But Thompson said the Republican governor - an Austrian immigrant - remains committed to the legislation, provided his concerns are met.

Thompson declined to speculate on whether the governor will deal with the legislation this year, but she added that Schwarzenegger is "an eternal optimist." "It's not a matter of timing," she said. "It's a matter of getting the policy right."

Thompson said the administration has been talking with security experts "to make sure that we can adequately address the issue of background checks."

"These are very complicated issues," she said. "(We) want to make sure that we ensure that public safety is enhanced throughout the process."


22 posted on 05/28/2004 7:26:13 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: NormsRevenge; So Cal Rocket; John Jorsett; Defiant; hedgetrimmer; mkj6080
Just a reminder regarding the referendum response to possible passage of this legislation. If it is passed under urgency provisions, under the guise of national security by way of background checks, it becomes law as soon as it is signed by the governor.

Referendum would not be an option in that case. Last time around, as non-urgency legislation, a period of months intervened between Gray Davis signing the bill and the legislation becoming law. So it was possible to stop it from taking effect.

In the event this came to pass, thousands of licenses could be granted before the law was overthrown and the licenses invalidated. Imagine the momentum this could give to similar movements in other states.

Ron Prince has said he will organize another run at getting an initiative on the ballot to deny illegals taxpayer funded services, including driver licensing. The last effort foundered as an on line only enterprise which was launched hurriedly and without sufficient funds to pay signature gatherers.

For the next try Prince will concentrate on fund raising which will just about guarantee a place on the ballot but it will be a 2006 ballot.

We can take some small consolation in all of these possibilities by imaging how long it will take the Department of Motor Vehicles to get up to speed. That's just the beginning, background checks of any kind will take time. Imagine the Mexican bureaucracy in motion. It will be costly as well. Then there's the rumors that will circulate regarding the licensing being a sham to get illegals' vital information so they can be rounded up and shipped out.

Interesting times in a country that is supposed to be founded on the rule of law. Citizens must bend over backward to fulfill the requirements of the law while those who flout the law need only show up.

23 posted on 05/28/2004 8:00:54 PM PDT by concentric circles
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To: NormsRevenge
Garamendi came out with a 21% figure but I think over this and next year

With all due respect Norm the article doesn't support the comment.

Insurance Commissioner John Garamendi called Friday for workers' compensation insurance rate cuts of nearly 21 percent starting July 1..

John Garamendi may wish rates would go down by 20% and he may call for rates to go down by 20% but he can't make rates go down by 20%.

The greatest impact on curbing growing workers comp rates was due to changed guidelines from the Davis administration which took effect in January. Specifically, beginning in January, the state restricted the fees that surgery centers can charge in workers' compensation claims.

The legislation that Schwarzenegger championed will have little effect on premiums. It was correctly surmised as an effort by the governance to head off substantial reform at the ballot box in November.

24 posted on 05/28/2004 8:07:57 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: concentric circles
If Schwarzenegger signs the proposed legislation I see it as a call to arms. Sooner or later you have to draw a line in the sand and stand tall.

If Schwarzenegger and other liberals keep handing the keys to the asylum to the inmates, the staff will soon become inconsequential. If Schwarzenegger and the other liberals keep giving Mexico's poor the reigns of power through legitimizing their growing swarm soon the rest of us will have to make a difficult decision. Fight or flee.

Why the hell should either I or my family who have resided peacefully and productively in California for over 100 years turn the place over to Mexico's poor? Unlike Texas, Mexico has no great historic claim to California.

25 posted on 05/28/2004 8:19:20 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: concentric circles
Just a reminder regarding the referendum response to possible passage of this legislation. If it is passed under urgency provisions, under the guise of national security by way of background checks, it becomes law as soon as it is signed by the governor.

While that's a theoretical possibility, it requires a two-thirds vote of the legislature, which mean 6 Assembly Republicans and 2 Senate Republicans have to vote for it. KFI radio questioned every single Republican member of both bodies, and every one of them said that they'd never vote for an urgency provision under any circumstances. Maybe Schwarzenegger could influence some of them, but I doubt he'd be able to get enough. The political firestorm that would result would be enormous, and our new governor is a good example of what happens when the people get that upset.

26 posted on 05/29/2004 7:01:45 AM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: Amerigomag
"Mexico has no great historic claim to California"

Frankly it doesn't need one, the majority of voters in California and the Feds, abdicating their charter to secure the borders, are doing it anyway.

Of all the sad things I have seen happen the willful, nay, gleeful, turning over of the US to illegals is without a doubt the saddest of them all. No one in gubbermint seems to give a spit about it only looking at their selfish short term success. Oh, there are a few lone voices, but they are very, very alone.

27 posted on 05/29/2004 7:12:13 AM PDT by Proud_texan
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To: Proud_texan
Oh, there are a few lone voices, but they are very, very alone.

I think there would be a few more if the Azatlan myth were debunked.

Through 300 years of European influence/visitation Mexico had some control of a small part of California (4 forts and 17 small secularized ranches along the coast) for 11 years and they claim it as their's. Only a woefully ignorant Mexican nationalist could rationalize a legitimate claim to any part of California based on its history.

It would be even more incredulous for an educated US citizen to have any sympathetic stance with regard to the claim much less allow some latitude in dealing with the arriving hordes through a misguided, vague feeling of having committed past wrongs.

28 posted on 05/29/2004 8:56:11 AM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: FairOpinion
Why would he veto it if he is in favor of it?

What if he is sent the version he is looking for?

29 posted on 05/29/2004 8:59:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

He isn't going to be sent a version he is looking for.


30 posted on 05/29/2004 9:31:14 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: nickcarraway
"It's uncertain how quickly Schwarzenegger and the legislators can reach a deal, and how committed the governor is to resolution."

The Dems are pushing it, Arnold is going through the motions, but he'll be happy to keep "negotiating" for the next 50 years -- in the meantime, NO BILL.

31 posted on 05/29/2004 9:33:24 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: FairOpinion

Can we risk that?


32 posted on 05/29/2004 10:49:06 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: FairOpinion
Why should he accept any version of the bill?
33 posted on 05/29/2004 10:49:42 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

What I don't understand is why some people here are focusing their ire on Schwarzenegger, instead of the Democrats, who are the ones who are pushing this.

So far Arnold had the Legislature repeal the bad bill and he hasn't gone along with any Dem suggestions.


34 posted on 05/29/2004 10:52:49 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: nickcarraway

There isn't going to be any version that's acceptable to Arnold.


35 posted on 05/29/2004 10:54:22 AM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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