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Bush Keeps Saddam's Pistol as Souvenir
aolnews.com ^ | 5 29 04 | MATTHEW COOPER

Posted on 05/30/2004 9:16:04 AM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: big ern
LOL.....The day I stop learning is the day I take the Big Dirt Nap !

Always something new to see or hear. Why stick around for anything less Ern !.........:o)

Stay safe !

61 posted on 05/30/2004 6:31:23 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: monkeywrench

Clinton probably already has the same stuff as Uday and Kusay in his personal collection


62 posted on 05/30/2004 6:48:50 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: F14 Pilot

pong


63 posted on 05/30/2004 6:56:27 PM PDT by nuconvert ("America will never be intimidated by thugs and assassins." ( Azadi baraye Iran)
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To: Squantos

Actually I always thought that saying about old dogs was wrong. It's actually dumb dogs that you can't teach new tricks to. We all know people in that category.


64 posted on 05/30/2004 7:01:38 PM PDT by TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig (Permanent Source of Sarcasm. PSS)
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To: Howlin

Do you know who the artist of this painting is, or anything more about the painting? I was surprised how familiar it seems to me.


65 posted on 05/30/2004 8:46:31 PM PDT by ntnychik
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To: yarddog

Back when America was a free country, and the political class trusted soldiers to bring home enemy guns.


66 posted on 05/30/2004 10:02:58 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: freepatriot32
Consider the source and the gossipy tone of this AOL "news" item, which just happens to have been written by Matthew Cooper, the Time magazine White House Correspondant, part-time commedian and husband of Mandy Gruenwald.

Have you ever seen President Bush behave in any manner other than personally humble ? He is unfailingly appreciative of his blessings and for the opportunity to be CinC and always credits the hard work of others. So, if, in fact, he does have that pistol then I'm sure any pride he might have exhibited was for the calibre of our troops and for the humane treatment that murdering dictator received when captured.

67 posted on 05/30/2004 10:24:06 PM PDT by Darlin' ("I will not forget this wound to my country." President George W Bush, 20 Sept 2001)
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To: Spok
I think it's a cool momento, but is it legal in the D. of C.?

Remember Bush is the Commander in Chief. He's merely keeping it at his "duty station" in that role. All gun bans (except the Lautenberg Domestic Violence lifetime ban) make exceptions for police and military when on duty.

Besides the writ of the DC city council does not extend into the White House. What do you suppose the Secret Service would do if Da Mayor sent his minions to collect the weapon and arrest it's owner? Might be interesting to watch and somewhat entertaining as well.

68 posted on 05/30/2004 11:37:37 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Milligan
Yep. At least they have Saddam locked up now. In Qatar, the last I heard.

69 posted on 05/31/2004 2:15:17 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is ONLY ONE good Democrat: one that has just been voted OUT of POWER ! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: ReaganRulez2000
I agree, it indicates a spoil of conquest. The President has stated that we are in Iraq for the pursuit of freedom and democracy, not empire

No its a spoil of war. It's part of the enemy's military equipment and as such is a legitimate "prize". Empire has nothing do with it. We weren't trying to incorporate Germany or Germany, Japan and Italy into any American Empire either.

If the FedGov weren't so anal about private citizens, including current and former military personnel, owning firearms of any sort, lots of soldiers would be bringing home captured Iraqi weapons, as they once brought home captured Mausers, Lugers, Nambo's and sundry Japanese swords. I think alot of that is due to the blatantly unconstitutional National Firearms Act, and the widespread adoption of full auto individual weapons after WW-II.

70 posted on 05/31/2004 7:07:42 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Piquaboy

exactly.


71 posted on 05/31/2004 7:09:13 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Piquaboy
That gun is a part of history and unlike the previous occupant of the WH would have done, it will be left there rather than spirited out in the dark of night

I rather think it could end up in the Presidential Library, as have many gifts from Foreign leaders. This one may not exactly have been a voluntary gift but it was from a foregin leader. Think of it more like an appreciation plaque or other gift given to outgoing CO's from the troops. They don't leave those for the next CO. They end up on the wall of someone's den or sometimes their post service employment office.

72 posted on 05/31/2004 7:11:45 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: ohiocreek
tell that to the troops who were reprimanded for taking paintings etc.

Those are not "spoils of war" like captured weapons are. Taking them is looting. Not the same thing at all.

73 posted on 05/31/2004 7:15:24 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: blau993
Not unless you want to rely on an argument that the White House is federal land and not part of the District of Columbia. Even then, somebody likely violated DC law bringing it into the White House.

Probably not, there are usually exemptions for military personel on duty.

74 posted on 05/31/2004 7:18:12 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Travis McGee
What happened to the good old days?

Killed by the gun grabbers. Including some within the Army and other service bureaucracies.

75 posted on 05/31/2004 7:20:34 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: RightWhale
No President keeps this stuff.

Some of it does end up in Presidential Libraries. I suspect this one will, although you might be right, it might end up in a Museum, hopefully a military one.

76 posted on 05/31/2004 7:22:31 AM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Logical me
Wonder where all the things the Clintons took and where are they now?????

Speaking of which, the Churchill bust which is mentioned in the article is I'm pretty certain, the one that was in Algore's office which he just happened to "accidentally" abscond, and which he was forced to return, because Pres. Bush had wanted it for his own office.

77 posted on 05/31/2004 7:34:25 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: texasbluebell

The Churchill bust was packed away in Algore's boxes, and was already out of Washington, I meant to add.


78 posted on 05/31/2004 7:37:43 AM PDT by texasbluebell
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To: ntnychik

The artist is Childe Hassam; you may have seen it hanging on the wall next to the door to the Rose Garden when Clinton was president.


79 posted on 05/31/2004 7:45:02 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: texasbluebell; Howlin
Just a bit of correction to the story about Churchill, texasbluebell. If this is the same story, it was the bust of Lincoln that Al Gore "accidentally" packed, and it was Counsel for Vice President Cheney who wrote requesting its return. Shortly after the incident was made public, the bust of Lincoln appeared in many photos taken of the President in the Oval Office.

I'm truly grateful that this Administration sees these treasures as belonging to the American people and have quietly gone about bringing them home ... how many, I think we'll never know.

And wasn't it Linda Tripp's job in the new Clinton Administration to catalog all gifts coming into the White House? Her Heinous gave her orders to disregard the cataloging. Again, one of our FReepers (was it Howlin?) caught sight of Shillery presenting a fabulous purse to some dignitary ... one that had been given to Her Heinous that should have been cataloged for the American people.

This is just part of the reasons for my one, consistent prayer for the Clintons ... that the Lord would render the Clintons, and ALL their minions, totally powerless and useless and nameless and faceless and voiceless and homeless and penniless, and that He would strip them bare before the world, such is their evil, leaving only their immortal souls, and it is for these souls I pray ...

80 posted on 05/31/2004 7:48:12 AM PDT by Pegita ('Tis so sweet to trust in Jesus, just to take Him at His Word ...)
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