Posted on 05/31/2004 1:19:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
I blame it on both. But I also do something that is taboo. I blame the businesses that employ illegals as well. Few want to actually lay any blame at the feet of the contractors and farmers who joyfully encourage illegal immigrants just so their profit margins are a bit higher.
Thank you. Your initial statement led at least one person to believe something other than what you intended. As you contribute a unique viewpoint to these threads it would be a shame if you got suspended for forgetting a (sarc) tag.
It's not only non-white immigrants who do not assimilate but that's never pointed out. Plenty of native born Americans do not assimilate into the 'culture' of the US. As for speaking english, well my mother speaks english and she is STILL told to go back to her country (although she's a naturalized citizen).
Bob Grant has been yelling this for 25 years, to no avail. That louse RFK really dug a hole for this nation.
Many people are disgusted when some FReepers veer away from the real problem of illegal immigration (higher taxes, public services stretched to the max) and instead make jokes about tacos and the "icky brown people".
Yes I can see how it could be confused that way. I'm a bit frustrated is all. Politicians don't care and it makes legal immigrants look bad for taking advantage of a legal process well advertized by the American government.
This author does blame the politicians (the Kennedys, Johnson, etc.). Who can blame immigrants for wanting to bail their 3rd world hellholes and come to the greatest nation that ever was?
Do you disagree with the following (from the essay)?: "new arrivals [from 3rd world nations] make no effort to assimilate; to do so would be "genocidal," a notion that makes a mockery of real genocides. Instead, long-forgotten grudges are nursed against the white populace. Native citizens take to flight as the neighborhoods around them, the norms in their hometowns, are debased for the convenience of low-paid immigrants and well-heeled businessmen. All the while, indigenous paychecks drop through lower wages and higher taxes collected to provide social services for immigrants. And this only takes into account legal immigration. These results were unforeseen by liberals easily led about by their emotions."
The only part of the above paragraph I disagree with is his blanket statement about "new arrivals." I would amend it by saying "the majority of new arrivals."
No I see what NRT meant. I asked for it to be deleted. I'm about as frustrated as the next person about political inactivity over illegal immigration.
Let's just hope Tancredo catches on!!
There's a lot I disagree with. It's a lot of broadbrushing.
I wish more politicians looked out for the interests of voters. It's too bad they say one thing and then do another when they get elected.
Not gonna happen.
End immigration.
We have enough people, and we are out of room.
You might be correct, regarding your comment on English. I've recently had to deal with quite a few eastern Euro pe-on types in my bidness lately. They like to play dumb, like they don't understand English...I catch'em all out by manipulating a few choice words while giving them a work description or estimate. I can tell the ones who truely do not have a grasp of English right away......the others who do understand, well, they smarten up very quickly and "remember" how to speak English almost instantaneously......it's always good for a chuckle around here.....
As far as my own personal experience goes......it is mostly non white immigrants who chose not to assimilate.
repatriate: (verb) to send or bring (someone or something) back to their own country
repatriation: (noun) Repatriation of refugees is essential to rebuilding their country.
Just a couple suggestions for new Immigration legislation.
I guess it depends on where a person lives, and perception of assimilation. I know a lot of immigrants who don't want their children to assimilate into 'American culture'. My mother was much more strict about my friends because she feared me getting Americanized and hanging on the street corner, being disrespectful,etc. My father, an Ellis island immigrant, just issued death threats to the locals and when that didn't work we moved (out of Queens).
About English... you're right about that.
One-third of the Russian immigrants are on some kind of welfare program --- I think they'd be classified as white --- depends on where you draw the color line --- but we certainly don't need them. I can't really think of any group of immigrants we really NEED but we can still have some immigration of those who will work and support themselves and who won't rely on government programs. We have to be careful that they don't come from countries or cultures that are trying to destroy us and that their governments aren't involved in any way in their immigration. Such as demanding control over our laws or building mosques from their government's money. Immigration should be as individuals and not entire towns and large groups. I'm sure all of us can think of some immigrants we know who are not any problem to this country at all and who fit in just fine with our values.
Sometimes I wouldn't care if some immigrants couldn't talk at all --- it's not so much what language they chose to speak but when they can't support themselves because they won't learn the language of this country and you see the very high rates of Medicaid and food stamp use, then you do mind. Also when they demand everything be provided to them in their own language they really do get annoying.
I agree... don't get me wrong. I think Ted Kennedy is an idiot, and his immigration act didn't do anything for my mother or any of my family members. She came here before that but it's because she had a skill. Streamlining the process would help greatly starting with the elimination of illegal immigration.
How can we get the 1965 act repealed without a wholesale change in parties? Either Bush or Kerry would veto any such legislation assuming we could get it past the Senate.
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