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Former New York Times editor Howell Raines on why John Kerry will not win the presidential election
Guardian ^ | 06/02/04 | Howell Raines

Posted on 06/01/2004 7:47:55 PM PDT by Pikamax

Must do better

His poll ratings have slumped and each day brings more bad news from Iraq, but George Bush has one big advantage in the coming campaign: a ponderous, uncharismatic challenger with no clear message. In the first of a series of dispatches for G2 on the US election, former New York Times editor Howell Raines warns that John Kerry must find his voice or fade away

Wednesday June 2, 2004 The Guardian

A lot of Democrats are nostalgic these days for the exuberance that Bill Clinton exhibited on the campaign trail and for the clarity of his message: "It's the economy, stupid." With John Kerry, the message so far seems to be: It's the war, sort of, and it's the economy, maybe. Even against a weakened George Bush, Kerry has to get better as a candidate. The president may be bruised, but anyone tempted to bet against him would be ignoring the Republican party's mastery of what the pundits call "hammer-and-chisel politics", in which an opponent's reputation is destroyed through relentless pounding on one or two simple ideas. Ever since Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter in 1980, presidential elections have been dominated by Republican expertise in finding a tiny crack - real or imaginary - in a candidate's public facade and expanding that fissure until the whole edifice crumbles. And Bush's formidable chiseller-in-chief, Karl Rove, has barely started tapping.

While Bush's poll figures look sickly to the unschooled eye, his 40% support level does contain some good news for him. It shows that his base of cultural and political conservatives is holding together - so far. White House strategists are betting that leaving Iraq in 30 days - no matter what chaos ensues in that country - will leave them time to revise history between now and election day and, more importantly, get on with the work of destroying Kerry's image.

In recent weeks Kerry has been trying hard to sharpen up his act, but so far the results have not been encouraging. As America's first war-hero candidate since John F Kennedy, he ought to be leading the national discussion on what went wrong in Iraq. But for his current series of speeches on national security issues, he rounded up a series of experienced hair-splitters from the Clinton years - Richard C Holbrooke, James Rubin, Sandy Berger - and they produced a script that would have played very well before the Council on Foreign Relations. The speeches were intended to fire up his campaign, toughen his image and to modify - without disowning - his Senate vote for the war. The problem is that speeches that sound right at the Council don't necessarily work for an electorate schooled to respond to simple messages.

Bush delivered just that in a television-ad blitz in 19 crucial states. The ads depicted Kerry as going wobbly on terrorism because he first voted for the Patriotic Act and then became worried about its authorisation of wire-taps and other infringements of civil liberties. And the nature of the Republican spinners' big chisel was now clear - a depiction of Kerry as the "for/against" candidate who can't make up his mind on any big issue, foreign or domestic.

All of which raises the question of what Kerry needs to do to win in a campaign that's going to become the political equivalent of a street fight. I believe Kerry can do it, but I feel less sure of that now than I did in the primaries. Every time I talk to a reporter who has covered him, new doubts creep in about his ability to connect with voters.

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children.org I personally find him easier to talk to than Al Gore, but there's no denying that he's ponderous. And he's pompous in a way that Gore is not. With Gore, you feel that if he could choose, he would have been born poor and cool. Kerry radiates the feeling that he is entitled to his sense of entitlement. Probably that comes from spending too much time with Teddy Kennedy, but it's a problem. The TV camera is an x-ray for picking up attitudinal truths, and Kerry's lantern jaw and Addams Family face somehow reinforce the message that this guy has passed from ponderous to pompous and is so accustomed to privilege that he doesn't have to worry about looking goofy. It's as if Lurch had gone to Choate. Recently, a lot of campaign reporters were writing that Kerry is altering his "populist" message and moving to the centre. If John Kerry was ever a populist, George W Bush is a Rhodes scholar. Here's what Kerry has to face up to and build upon. The difference between him and Bush is that Kerry represents the liberal, charitable wing of the Privilege party and George W represents the conservative, greedy wing of the Privilege party.

With that as a starting point, Kerry then has to figure out how to deliver a message on two key points, one easy and one hard.

The war is the easier one, although Kerry has put himself in a hole by modifying and rationalising his opposition to the Vietnam war. The first and possibly uncorrectable misstep took place when Tim Russert of NBC News showed Kerry a clip of his 1972 Senate testimony to the effect that some of the promoters of the Vietnam war could be viewed as war criminals. Kerry started crawfishing right away. The pity is, he was right. He could have named people starting with Robert MacNamara and McGeorge Bundy, and everybody in the country would have understood the point. That does not, I hasten to add, mean that he should have named those worthies. Here's what he should have done instead of apologising for the extremity of his language when in fact his language was common parlance at that time.

He should have said: "Tim, what you see in that video clip is a young man fresh from the battlefield and incandescent with the horror he saw. I mourned deeply for my comrades who were killed and maimed. I felt moral conflict, as many of our soldiers and sailors did, about the civilian casualties all around us. I felt angry that our national leaders had put us into a war without an exit strategy or a way of defining victory.

"Those are the feelings aroused in me today when I see our young men and women dying in Iraq. I am older and I hope wiser and as the nominee of my party I have an obligation to use less colourful language. But my desire for a government that is both strong and wise in the use of that strength - that calls upon its young for necessary sacrifice, but does not gamble needlessly with their lives - is as deep today as it was then. I have seen the face of battle when it was my duty. That will make me a president who understands the cost of conflict, the need for judgment that balances our military power, the need for honesty with the American people about what we know and don't know about where and when to go after terrorists ..." And so on and so on.

Kerry has yet to learn to do what Bush and vice-president Dick Cheney do when they're in the hot seat. They take over the interview even when they have nothing to say and nothing to sell. There's hardly an American who does not know that George W got into the Air National Guard when others couldn't through his father's political pull, that he got into flight school ahead of others due to his father's political pull, that he was allowed to skip his normal weekend drills and make them up without being punished because of his father's political pull. There's hardly an American who doesn't know that Cheney used graduate-school deferments to beat the draft. If John Kerry, Purple Heart winner, can't take that set of facts and handle Russert as well as Messrs Bush and Cheney do, he's not likely to cause enough defections in the Christian bloc to defeat them.

Now for the hard part of the performance challenge - the economy. Two and a quarter centuries into its history as a nation, America has the most unfair tax system ever and the greatest gap ever between rich and poor. Even a real populist, however, would have trouble taking on these issues frontally. As Al From of the Democratic Leadership Council noted, Americans aren't antagonistic toward the rules that protect the rich because they think that in the great crap-shoot of economic life in America, they might wind up rich themselves. It's a mass delusion, of course, but one that has worked ever since Ronald Reagan got Republicans to start flaunting their wealth instead of apologising for it. Kerry has to understand that when a cure is impossible, the doctor must enter the world of the deluded.

What does this mean in terms of campaign message? It means that he must appeal to the same emotions that attract voters to Republicans - ie greed and the desire to fix the crap-shoot in their favour. That means that instead of talking about "fixing" social security, you talk about building a retirement system that makes middle-class voters believe they will be semi-rich someday. As matters now stand, Kerry has assured the DLC, "I am not a redistributionist Democrat."

That's actually a good start. Using that promise as disinformation, he must now figure out a creative way to become a redistributionist Democrat. As a corporation-bashing populist, I'd like to think he could do that by promising to make every person's retirement as secure as Cheney's investment in Halliburton. But that won't sell with the sun-belt suburbanites. Not being a trained economist like, say, Arthur Laffer, I can't figure out the exact legerdemain that Kerry ought to endorse. But greed will make folks vote for Democrats if it's properly packaged, just as it now makes them vote Republican, and in terms of the kind of voters Kerry must win away from Bush, I think the pot-of-gold retirement strategy is a way to work. Forget a chicken in every pot. It's time for a Winnebago in every driveway.

Surely someone in Kerry's campaign can figure out a way for him to say, "Here's my plan for getting us out of Iraq and defeating terrorism," and "Here's my plan for making sure you're not sick and poor in your old age." And then make him say it over and over again, no matter what question is asked of him. Kerry has to face the fact that even though the incumbent looks like Goofy when he smirks, he's going to win unless Kerry comes up with something to say. To stay "on message", you have to have one.


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1 posted on 06/01/2004 7:47:58 PM PDT by Pikamax
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To: Pikamax

Poor Howell.... No more is he pulling the strings of a huge ;eft wing propaganda rag... lol... his massive liberal sentiments are still the same though...lol


2 posted on 06/01/2004 7:52:20 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: Pikamax
Seems even Howell Raines has realized Kerry is boring and pathetic.

Look to see more "buyer's remorse" in the future. I expected at some point the Dems will start blaming and attacking each other.
3 posted on 06/01/2004 7:54:25 PM PDT by zencat (Visit my profile for MAGNETIC Bush/Cheney '04 bumper stickers!)
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To: Pikamax

This guy is completely clueless. He thinks Carter lost because Reagan destroyed his reputation by hammering away at one or two ideas. Oh, I've got it--he was born AFTER the Carter Presidency. I must be getting old.


4 posted on 06/01/2004 7:55:36 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Pikamax
Two and a quarter centuries into its history as a nation, America has the most unfair tax system ever

Yeah. The average working man or woman doesn't see any of their own hard-won wages, essentially, until May 1st of any given calendar year (1/3 of everything they earn sluiced straightaway into governmental coffers, like it or not)... and, to the arrogant, privileged likes of a Howell Raines: that's "unfair." You're not paying ENOUGH.

G-d grant that men such as these never gain ultimate authority over our lives ever again.

5 posted on 06/01/2004 7:57:55 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: Pikamax
Where has Howell been, JFKerry is a Viet Nam war hero, and he has "reenactment" films to prove it.

Now that bjclinton is going to help him, according to Bob Beckel on Fox this a.m., the "stud" is what JFKerry needs. Oh, then Bob Beckel corrected himself and said the "stallion" clinton would come to the rescue.
6 posted on 06/01/2004 7:58:20 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Pikamax

***As matters now stand, Kerry has assured the DLC, "I am not a redistributionist Democrat." That's actually a good start. Using that promise as disinformation, he must now figure out a creative way to become a redistributionist Democrat***


And that, my friends, is the whole story.


7 posted on 06/01/2004 8:01:33 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Pikamax

Howell is delivering Swiss Cheese arguments to seal massive breaches in the dike. Make way, Make way, I say.


8 posted on 06/01/2004 8:02:13 PM PDT by kylaka (The Clintons are the democRATS crack cocaine. They know they're bad for them, they just can't stop.)
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To: Pikamax

I sure hope Kerry takes the advice of Howell Raines, who is completely in touch with the prevailing mood in Greenwich Village and the Upper West Side, but hopelessly lost in most of the rest of America. Even by the standards of silver spoon liberals, this guy's condescension and contempt for the American people is extreme. And what's this crapola about Kerry being the first war hero candidate since JFK? What about Dole? What about Bush the first? I guess churning out garbage like this is what fired newspaper editors do these days.


9 posted on 06/01/2004 8:04:34 PM PDT by speedy (Tagline for demonstration purposes only. Not for internal consumption.)
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To: Bob Eimiller
Poor Howell.... No more is he pulling the strings of a huge ;eft wing propaganda rag... lol

They've even APOLOGIZED for most of the crap they printed while he was there.......LOL.

10 posted on 06/01/2004 8:05:56 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Pikamax

Hmmmm, just lie to the American people huh Howell, just like you adviced old Jason Blair to do? Lies don't mean anything to you, do they? Just as long as you get what you want, it's OK to lie.


11 posted on 06/01/2004 8:06:16 PM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: Pikamax

Pathetic.


12 posted on 06/01/2004 8:06:30 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Pikamax
As America's first war-hero candidate since John F Kennedy

HUH?!?!?

I remember a hero named ROBERT DOLE that was a candidate in 1996....or am I confused??

13 posted on 06/01/2004 8:10:02 PM PDT by SC_Republican (unfortunately my first name is Kerry...)
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To: Pikamax
As Al From of the Democratic Leadership Council noted, Americans aren't antagonistic toward the rules that protect the rich because they think that in the great crap-shoot of economic life in America, they might wind up rich themselves

Maybe they understand that its not a crap-shoot.

14 posted on 06/01/2004 8:11:29 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along)
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To: Pikamax
Former New York Times editor to (soon-to-be)former Presidential hopeful.

Life is good. When it Raines, it pours.

15 posted on 06/01/2004 8:12:36 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: Pikamax
... Republican party's mastery of what the pundits call "hammer-and-chisel politics" ...

Democrats use a meat cleaver, such as the ads they ran, trying to link Bush with the death of James Byrd or the recent "they have a plan and you are not part of it" billboards.

16 posted on 06/01/2004 8:16:12 PM PDT by evilC
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To: Pikamax
...although Kerry has put himself in a hole by modifying and rationalising his opposition to the Vietnam war.

Raines puts a good face on what will be a decided negative re Kerry's antiwar activities. Kerry met with the Vietnamese Communists in Paris while hostilities were still going on; he belonged to the radical VVAW, which plotted assassinations against our political leadership; and he condemned en masse all who participated as war criminals. Raines needs to recognize that Kerry is very unpopular among veterans. Kerry is not a war hero, as his fellow Swift Boat officers can attest. Add that to the fact that Kerry is rated the most liberal senator in the Senate and you have a disaster as a candidate.

17 posted on 06/01/2004 8:17:12 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Pikamax
...a ponderous, uncharismatic challenger with no clear message... John Kerry must find his voice or fade away

If, after being in the Senate 30 years, Kerry has no clear message and can't find his voice, then he never has had a message or voice. He is an empty-suited fake. No wonder he flipflops on so many issues; he has never taken a stand since his pre-Congressional, post-VietNam activities against that war.

There is an old saying: If you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. They sums up Kerry fairly accurately. He falls for anything on the side he thinks his intended audience wants.

In 30 years, Kerry has failed to discover a clear message or find his voice. That is not going to change in the next 4 months.

No wonder Kerry always has 'a plan' but can never give any details or specifics for the plan. The plan is to get elected by saying anything he thinks his audience wants to hear. Since that varies from group to group, 'the plan' can't be specific or detailed, or it might give his strategery away.
18 posted on 06/01/2004 8:17:50 PM PDT by TomGuy (Clintonites have such good hind-sight because they had their heads up their hind-ends 8 years.)
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To: evilC

I forgot to add, that the real reason Democrats have a hard time winning, is that they have to pretend to be Republicans without alienating their base.


19 posted on 06/01/2004 8:18:11 PM PDT by evilC
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To: Pikamax

The simple truth is, democrats can't lie to the American people about Iraq or the economy becuase both are a success.


20 posted on 06/01/2004 8:19:11 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: SC_Republican

In additon to Dole, George Bush 41 was also a war hero with a DFC and so was George McGovern.


21 posted on 06/01/2004 8:23:13 PM PDT by kabar
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To: SC_Republican

or George H.W. Bush for that matter. Oh for crying out loud what about Eugene McCarthey? No wonder the N.Y. Times sucked so bad, this guys a moron.


22 posted on 06/01/2004 8:23:42 PM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: Dr Snide

sorrry meant McGovern, got my liberal pinhead Mc's war heros mixed up


23 posted on 06/01/2004 8:24:27 PM PDT by Dr Snide (vis pacem, para bellum - Prepare for war if you want peace)
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To: Pikamax
This guy ran a Newspapaer ?

Now I know why he got fired. He's a yutz.

24 posted on 06/01/2004 8:25:00 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: Pikamax

Hey Raines "You're Fired!"


25 posted on 06/01/2004 8:26:01 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: Pikamax
It's as if Lurch had gone to Choate.

And this from Howell Raines and the Guardian!

26 posted on 06/01/2004 8:28:56 PM PDT by Heatseeker
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To: Pikamax
"Easier to talk to than Al Gore!" Wow, that's sure to win a few votes.
27 posted on 06/01/2004 8:30:07 PM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: Pikamax

I believe that the main reason john kerry will not win the election for President is because by election day he won't be on the democrat ticket.

The democrat side of the ballot will read hillary roddam clinton.


28 posted on 06/01/2004 8:33:38 PM PDT by sport
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To: Perlstein; William McKinley; Howlin; NYC Republican; LS; Sabertooth; blam; commish; Common Tator
"As matters now stand, Kerry has assured the DLC, "I am not a redistributionist Democrat."

That's actually a good start. Using that promise as disinformation, he must now figure out a creative way to become a redistributionist Democrat." - Raines

When Raines was here in 'Bama, his skill was chasing the big story (e.g. civil rights), not understanding local politics.

He never figured Alabama politics out, and it's also clear that he never grasped American politics, either.

That being said, I encourage the Democrats to take Raines' advice. It would make for the cherry on top of their worst run campaign in history.

The only saving grace here for Raines is that he is probably writing his above advice while drunk, and merely parroting snippets of conversations from British leftists at London cocktail parties...thinking that if he writes what liberals want to hear that he might land a new job somewhere.

On the other hand, I'd bet money that he'll stop getting invited to so many cocktail parties if his drunken binges splash into more of his writing.

29 posted on 06/01/2004 8:34:28 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Pikamax
AMAZING that they label Kerry as the first "war hero" candidate - conveniently forgetting Bush senior and Bob Dole - what a bunch of jerk off liars!
30 posted on 06/01/2004 8:41:31 PM PDT by Southern62
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To: Pikamax

Of course, the flip flops Kerry wears is really only a figment of our imagination. Ya see, Kerry really is only on one side...AT A TIME!!! LOL


31 posted on 06/01/2004 8:41:48 PM PDT by zahal724
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To: zahal724

Why, are you kidding me? Kerry, in Vietnam?


32 posted on 06/01/2004 8:42:35 PM PDT by zahal724
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To: ChadGore

Democrats have to cobble together so many varied, and diametrically opposed factions to win, that every campaign speech is a mine field. Had it not been for Perot, we wouldn't have seen President Clinton; either time. And we wouldn't have seen Dole as candidate.


33 posted on 06/01/2004 8:48:01 PM PDT by Benjamin Dover
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To: Dr Snide
or George H.W. Bush for that matter. Oh for crying out loud what about Eugene McCarthey? No wonder the N.Y. Times sucked so bad, this guys a moron

You used the past tense????

34 posted on 06/01/2004 8:55:15 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Pikamax
Ever since Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter in 1980, presidential elections have been dominated by Republican expertise in finding a tiny crack - real or imaginary - in a candidate's public facade and expanding that fissure until the whole edifice crumbles.

Tiny crack? Yeah, Madonna is a virgin. Was Raines asleep during the 70s? And how about the Democrats gift to America, McGovern?--the war hero who would crawl on his knees to Hanoi to stop the war.

The Dems have had a 32 year string of losers. Fortunately, only two have been elected.

35 posted on 06/01/2004 8:59:18 PM PDT by DeFault User
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To: Pikamax
What kind of idiot writer is this? First, he paints a picture of an invisible man (Kerry) and then he says, "White House strategists are betting that leaving Iraq in 30 days - no matter what chaos ensues in that country - will leave them time to revise history between now and election day and, more importantly, get on with the work of destroying Kerry's image;" makes a reader want to plead self-defense.
36 posted on 06/01/2004 9:00:56 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: Southack
Howell Raines has just demonstrated everything that is wrong with the left, in general, and the mainstream media, in particular.

1. The presumption that the American people are beyond ignorant; they are stupid!

2. The presumption that a Democrat candidate must lie in order to be elected. And that it's not only "O.K." for them to do so, it's smart!

3. The presumption that wealth is not earned, but claimed by birthright or won in some kind of commercial lottery. And since Democrats are "for the poor", then no Democrats can be "rich".

4. A total unthinking belief in their own biased media swill. Raines made sweeping claims about Bush's ANG service without ever fact-checking the circumstances. Specifically, no "political pull" was necessary to volunteer for training as a fighter pilot -- there was a frightful shortage of them.

By all means, Raines should write more of these pieces. And Kerry should definitely follow his instructions. For Raines reveals the left for what they truly are: provincial elitist snobs, more than a little ignorant themselves.

37 posted on 06/01/2004 9:18:13 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: speedy
Great comment:

I sure hope Kerry takes the advice of Howell Raines, who is completely in touch with the prevailing mood in Greenwich Village and the Upper West Side, but hopelessly lost in most of the rest of America. Even by the standards of silver spoon liberals, this guy's condescension and contempt for the American people is extreme. And what's this crapola about Kerry being the first war hero candidate since JFK? What about Dole? What about Bush the first? I guess churning out garbage like this is what fired newspaper editors do these days.

38 posted on 06/01/2004 9:21:00 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: okie01
Of course, his fans who read the The Guardian will eat all this up.
39 posted on 06/01/2004 9:23:15 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: SC_Republican
My first thought on seeing this was shock that Raines was writing, what I thought was a negative piece on Kerry, in The Guardian, instead of an American publication or website. But then I realized this isn't a negative Kerry piece at all. It's Raines going after the Bush/Rove team.

And his arrogant elitism shows through, of course. He writes of Kerry's foreign policy speeches: " The problem is that speeches that sound right at the Council don't necessarily work for an electorate schooled to respond to simple messages." That's emperial Raines telling us how stupid we voters are.

And Raines, for all his gloomy doom predictions for Kerrey, he thinks his advice is worth something, he's still towing the party line, la Dana Milbank in the Washington Times. Peddling the false notion that Bush and Rove are unfairly attacking Kerrey, with negative, untrue ads. It's spinning bullhockeydoodoo!! Raines ignores the fact that Kerry has been steadily pounding Bush for almost a year with untrue allegations.

Raines, (like his New York Times) makes glaring errors too. "As America's first war-hero candidate since John F Kennedy", he writes, obviously forgetting about (not only Bob Dole), but the first President Bush and John McCain too.

But how like Raines to go to reporters for facts. He writes, "Every time I talk to a reporter who has covered him, new doubts creep in about his ability to connect with voters." I suppose it would never occur to Raines to ask real people, not reporters, for the truth of a matter.

40 posted on 06/01/2004 9:23:25 PM PDT by YaYa123 (@Just More Spit And Spin.com)
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To: speedy

It is scary that he thinks that Kerry is the first war hero since JFK. Yeah to echo Speedy - what about GHWB and Dole? Didn't Carter even serve? Al Neuharth (founding editor at USA TODAY) was saying that America needed a General President to lead it into war citing George Washington. That was his primary opposition to Bush's action in Iraq. He wasn't honest enough to admit that neither FDR or B Clinton didn't serve. These editors are going crazy with their hatred of Dubya.


41 posted on 06/01/2004 9:25:25 PM PDT by electroclash (yeah.......)
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To: kabar
Howell Raines is an idiot or a total jerk to have left out these patriots :

In additon to Dole, George Bush 41 was also a war hero with a DFC and so was George McGovern.

42 posted on 06/01/2004 9:29:11 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: SC_Republican
I remember a hero named ROBERT DOLE that was a candidate in 1996....or am I confused??

Oh come on, you know that a republican can't be a hero doncha? Heaven forbid! Are these people disgusting or what.

It made me so mad to read " a weakened Bush" when I know darn good and well the media is the one who has been doing everything in their power to cause it!

43 posted on 06/01/2004 9:32:10 PM PDT by ladyinred (The leftist media is the enemy within. John Kerry even flips&flops with his finger!)
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To: weegee; Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; ...

ping


44 posted on 06/01/2004 9:35:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (NFL Owners: Grown men don't watch hollywood peep shows with wives and children.)
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To: Pikamax
Raines says Kerry represents charitableness while Bush represents greed. Kerry in the mid-'90s, before his marriage to Teresa Heinz, gave zero to charity...on his income as a U.S. Senator. The 'Rats are charitable enough, but with other people's money.
45 posted on 06/01/2004 9:41:57 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: okie01

Your post #37... top to bottom brilliant. I saved it, thank you :-)


46 posted on 06/01/2004 9:42:54 PM PDT by Tamzee (Kerry's just a gigolo, and everywhere he goes, people know the part he's playing...)
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Two and a quarter centuries into its history as a nation, America has the most unfair tax system ever and the greatest gap ever between rich and poor. Even a real populist, however, would have trouble taking on these issues frontally. As Al From of the Democratic Leadership Council noted, Americans aren't antagonistic toward the rules that protect the rich because they think that in the great crap-shoot of economic life in America, they might wind up rich themselves. It's a mass delusion, of course, but one that has worked ever since Ronald Reagan got Republicans to start flaunting their wealth instead of apologising for it. Kerry has to understand that when a cure is impossible, the doctor must enter the world of the deluded.

"Sophisticates" such as Raines can't even recognize the world in front of their noses. The American people as a whole have undergone an increase in the standard of living over the last several generations unknown in the history of mankind. The "poor" have an existence and opportunities beyond the royalty of past ages. But these leftist scum hate America. Why? I would guess that the "rich" they hang with, i.e. their circle, in New York and Los Angeles are truly foul examples of humanity. They don't recognize that most of America is not that way. Nevertheless, the hate the "rich" (self-loathing) and despise the "poor" for not joining their hatefest. And most of all they hate the capitalist system for benefiting the people without relying on their "great minds" for a plan.

47 posted on 06/01/2004 9:50:52 PM PDT by Faraday
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As matters now stand, Kerry has assured the DLC, "I am not a redistributionist Democrat."

That's actually a good start. Using that promise as disinformation, he must now figure out a creative way to become a redistributionist Democrat.

Raines provides a some insight here to the style of journalistic ethics practiced at The New York Times during his tenure as boss.

48 posted on 06/01/2004 9:59:55 PM PDT by beckett
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As America's first war-hero candidate since John F Kennedy, he ought to be leading the national discussion on what went wrong in Iraq.

Well there's Howell's big mistake! He believes that most Americans will buy that 'war hero' line of garbage! Actually, most folks see what Hanoi John did to his military 'brothers' on his return from Vietnam, and they don't trust their sons and daughters in the military with him as their Commander in Chief!

49 posted on 06/01/2004 10:13:07 PM PDT by SuziQ (Bush in 2004/Because we Must!!! (Bombard))
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As America's first war-hero candidate since John F Kennedy

BULL.

Bob Dole was a war hero. George HW Bush was as well.

50 posted on 06/01/2004 10:17:05 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong. - Reagan)
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