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McCartney: "I Have Tried Heroin" (Doubtless Explains the Writing of "Silly Love Songs")
The Mirror ^ | 6/2/04 | Jon Wilde and David Edwards

Posted on 06/02/2004 10:51:49 PM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

AT THE very height of Beatlemania, the Fab Four played to an astonishing 500,000 people during a 1964 whirlwind tour of the US.

Today, 40 years on, Sir Paul McCartney will be seen by more than 700,000 fans in a 13-date European tour. Not bad for a man who turns 62 this month.

But even though he is in numerical terms a bigger draw than the Beatles ever were, he is not about to play down the debt he owes to his years in the biggest pop group of all time.

In his most revealing interview ever, McCartney has talked candidly about his love for John Lennon, the nervous breakdown he suffered after the Beatles split and why he should never have released some of his solo albums.

Although it's well known that he dabbled with drugs, including cannabis and cocaine, he reveals for the first time how he once took heroin.

His verdict: "It didn't do anything for me, which was lucky because I wouldn't have fancied heading down that road."

McCartney, who is due to headline the Glastonbury Festival on June 26, says: "What's amazed me about the big tours I've done in the last few years is that the thrill is as great as it ever was.

"We go on tour now and I think I should be fed up with it all by now - after all, I've done a fair bit of it. But I go to places like Mexico City and I get an audience that's louder than any I've ever heard, including those at Beatles gigs.

"I'm singing Hello Goodbye and the way they react is so completely overwhelming that I can barely get the words out."

But he knows that the songs he and John Lennon wrote together will get the biggest cheers of all.

"There are days when I wake up and have to remind myself that I wrote songs with John Lennon," he says.

"It's fantastic that he was a part of my life in that way.

IMAGINE the luxury of being stuck on a song and being able to hand it over to John Lennon to finish off. Do I miss that? Of course I do. Hugely.

"In all the years I wrote with John, I can't remember a single occasion when we didn't come up with a song.

"At worst, we'd write at least once every day. It all happened at an amazing pace.

"We'd sag off school and write songs at my house. We'd start at two in the afternoon and we had to be finished by five so we could clean up and clear out before my dad got home.

"We wrote loads of stuff. We'd stuff some Twinings tea in a pipe, smoke that and write songs. It wasn't all good but we always came up with something.

"We all had a common vision, at least in the early days. The thing about me and John is that we were different - but we weren't that different.

"I think Linda put her finger on it when she said me and John were like mirror images of each other.

"Even down to how we started writing together, facing each other, eyeball-to-eyeball, exactly like looking in the mirror.

"On the surface, I was very easy-going, always accommodating, but, at certain times, I would very much be the hard man of the duo.

"John would allow me to take that role because it enabled him to drop his guard and be vulnerable.

"On the surface, he was this hard, witty guy, always on hand with a cutting witticism. He appeared caustic, even cruel at times, but really he was very soft.

"John was very insecure. He carried a lot of that from his upbringing, what with his father leaving when he was five.

"Then, of course, we'd both lost our mothers, so we had that in common. Ultimately, we were equals."

After releasing their debut album in 1963, the Beatles - Lennon, McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr - went on to become the biggest names in pop.

By the time they split up in 1970,they had released some of the most innovative, groundbreaking albums ever, including Rubber Soul, Revolver and Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band. In the early days one of their biggest influences was Elvis Presley, but as the King's career faltered in the 60s drugs became another inspiration.

"The army had kind of ruined Elvis," says Paul. "He'd been this ultimate rebel figure who we'd all worshipped.

"Then they made him cut his hair and he had to call everyone 'sir', and he was never really the same again.

"Just about everyone was doing drugs in one form or another and we were no different, but the writing was too important for us to mess it up by getting off our heads all the time. It was just easier to write when we were straight and seemly.

"It was only on Pepper that we started to use stuff in the studio. On the earlier albums we'd have been using those drugs socially, so in that sense the drugs informed what we did.

"A song like Got To Get You Into My Life, that's directly about pot, although everyone missed it at the time. Day Tripper, that's one about acid. Lucy In The Sky, that's pretty obvious.

"There's others that make subtle hints about drugs, but, you know, it's easy to overestimate the influence of drugs on the Beatles' music.

"I tried heroin just the once. Even then, I didn't realise I'd taken it. I was just handed something, smoked it, then found out what it was.

"It didn't do anything for me, which was lucky because I wouldn't have fancied heading down that road.

"I did cocaine for about a year around the time of Sergeant Pepper. Coke and maybe some grass to balance it out. I was never completely crazy with cocaine.

"I'd been introduced to it and at first it seemed OK, like anything that's new and stimulating.

"When you start working your way through it, you start thinking: 'Mmm, this is not so cool an idea', especially when you start getting those terrible comedowns."

Perhaps the biggest comedown of all came as the group imploded at the end of the 60s when McCartney sued the other Beatles to dissolve the band.

"It was 10 years of hell," he says. "What followed was that everyone was split into camps.

"There were three of them and one of me. John, George and Ringo had been my best mates.

"Now they were my enemies. That was really, really hard to take.

"In the Beatles, we'd always had this running joke: 'What are we going to do when the bubble bursts?'

"Then it did burst and I went up to my farm in Scotland, wondering what the hell I was going to do next.

"I seriously thought about giving up music altogether. It was a bloody hard time.

"It was difficult to get up in the morning. I was drinking quite a lot, probably having a bit of a nervous breakdown. Looking back, I was in a state of grief. I realise that now. Grief for the end of the Beatles."

It was only through music that he was able to rouse himself from his torpor. In 1971 he founded Wings with his first wife Linda, Denny Laine and Denny Seiwell.

Although the band sold millions of records, it never received anything like the critical acclaim lavished upon the Beatles.

"Early Wings were pretty rough, not terribly good," admits Paul. "There was a time when the Beatles weren't very good, but we were able to be not very good in private.

"Wings had to do it in public and there was always the shadow of the Beatles, which didn't help.

"One thing you have to say is that I've put out an awful lot of records. Some of them I shouldn't have put out, sure. I'd gladly accept that.

"There's many different reasons for putting a record out. Sometimes I might just put one out because I'm bored and I've got nothing better to do.

"In 1977, I fancied doing a Scottish bagpipe song, so I wrote Mull Of Kintyre. The people who hated it were p****d off with me.

"Of course, it didn't help that it came out at the height of punk rock. But what should I have done at that time? Stuck a safety pin through my nose and done some bonkers punk song?

MY attitude is really: 'Sod you. You think Mull Of Kintyre is crap - you try writing something like that.' I do get annoyed at having to justify myself.

"Since school, I've never liked having to do that. I never liked anyone telling me what to do. I never liked that bullying tendency."

Wings split up in 1980 - the year McCartney was arrested at Tokyo International Airport after marijuana was found in his luggage.

He remembers: "I was out in New York and I had all this really good grass. Excellent stuff.

"We were about to fly to Japan and I knew I wouldn't be able to get anything to smoke over there. This stuff was too good to flush down the toilet, so I thought I'd take it with me.

"Looking back, it's not too wonderful being banged up in a Japanese jail.

"When I first arrived I was thinking: 'This is a storm in a teacup - I'll be out in no time.' Then the British vice-consul told me I could get seven years of hard labour. That's when it got extremely worrying.

"It was five days before Linda was allowed to visit me and I'd never spent a night apart from her since we'd married. It was pretty rough. Just a thin mattress on the floor.

"I had to wash myself using water from the toilet cistern. I had to share a bath with a bloke who was in for murder. I was afraid to take my suit off in case I got raped."

Twenty-four years on, possessing pot doesn't seem quite the heinous offence it once was. McCartney says: "Just the other day I went for a walk on my own in the Hollywood Hills.

"This bunch of teenagers passed by me and one of them turned to me and said: 'Hey, Macca, you're the man! Fancy joining us for a smoke?'

"To me, it's a huge compliment that a bunch of kids think I might be up to smoke a bit of dope with them.

"I'd be mad not to feel blessed, wouldn't I? I've been a lucky bugger and so many things that happened to me were pure chance.

"I'm lucky, very f*****g lucky, just to still be vibing and loving life and holding on to my enthusiasm for things."

For the full interview, check out this month's Uncut - the music and movies magazine, on sale from tomorrow.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: beatlemania; beatles; culturewar; drugs; hedonist; heroin; libertine; macca; mccartney; music; paulmccartney; rock; rockandroll; rockmusic; rolemodel; sirpaul; thebeatles
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To: weegee
Oops, there it is. Late night post.

"It was difficult to get up in the morning. I was drinking quite a lot, probably having a bit of a nervous breakdown. Looking back, I was in a state of grief. I realise that now. Grief for the end of the Beatles."

21 posted on 06/03/2004 1:56:22 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"In 1977, I fancied doing a Scottish bagpipe song, so I wrote Mull Of Kintyre. The people who hated it were p****d off with me.

"Of course, it didn't help that it came out at the height of punk rock. But what should I have done at that time? Stuck a safety pin through my nose and done some bonkers punk song?

MY attitude is really: 'Sod you. You think Mull Of Kintyre is crap - you try writing something like that.' I do get annoyed at having to justify myself.

It would have been all wrong for Paul to "write" a punk song. Wrong era, wrong mindset. There is a "play it loud, play it wrong" asthetic to Helter Skelter. There is an element of early 60s R&B tinged garage punk in some "unreleased" Beatles songs like "Leave My Kitten Alone".... but largely the Beatles were a pop band that went psychedelic, formed a publishing company for other artists, watched as Woodstock passed them by, and fought for more representation on their albums.

They knew they all had songs to contribute. They didn't want every release to be a 2-record set like the White Album (and the projects would not have had the cohession of Rubber Soul or Revolver).

22 posted on 06/03/2004 2:01:42 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
McCartney says: "Just the other day I went for a walk on my own in the Hollywood Hills.

"This bunch of teenagers passed by me and one of them turned to me and said: 'Hey, Macca, you're the man! Fancy joining us for a smoke?'

A suspicious story on several counts. Do teens walk in the Hollywood Hills? I though nobody walks in LA.

Also, how many teens know who he is (that guy who was in a band before they broke up... Wings I think...)?

How many know his nickname is Macca? I figure more people would be calling him "Sir Paul" these days.

"Fancy joining us for a smoke?" - Do kids in Hollywood talk like this???

He'd be advised to watch out. The world is not a peaceful place. Ray Davies of the Kinks has been living down yonder in New Orleans. He was shot in the leg while in the French Quarter after someone stole his girlfriend's purse. Reports said he was not seriously injured but he is still getting about with a cane.

23 posted on 06/03/2004 2:07:10 AM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS. CNN ignored torture & murder in Saddam's Iraq to keep their Baghdad Bureau.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

i always thought that paul should have written a song titled they took the toke out of tokeyo.

george was my favorite but in very kerryesque style i sometimes say john was my favorite.


24 posted on 06/03/2004 3:14:28 AM PDT by 537cant be wrong (the lib turneraitor)
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To: anonymous_user

Actually the song "Silly Love Songs" was a slight at John Lennon....Lennon had made the comment that McCartney was writting only silly love songs...So McCartney promptly wrote and released Silly Love Songs, which promptly went to # 1.


25 posted on 06/03/2004 3:29:37 AM PDT by Moby Grape
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To: L.N. Smithee

Heck, just revisiting the lyrics, you'd miss it again if he hadn't said it was about pot.
I am a bit surprised that Pepper was the first time they did studio work while high...I would have bet it was Rubber Soul.


26 posted on 06/03/2004 3:30:01 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: L.N. Smithee

I guess the title of Day Tripper might make sense that it was about acid. Silly, naive me. I thought it was about someone going on a one-day holiday.


27 posted on 06/03/2004 3:33:34 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: anonymous_user

I figured that the walrus song and the one about the octopus garden had to be written by someone who was high.


28 posted on 06/03/2004 3:38:17 AM PDT by thathamiltonwoman
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To: gooseanders
my friends frown at me when i say that i like wings better than the beatles.

You have chosen your friends wisely.

29 posted on 06/03/2004 3:50:14 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: weegee
You would have tried heroin, too, if your former best friend had insisted you listen to THIS:

:)

30 posted on 06/03/2004 3:57:24 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: gooseanders

I liked a lot of Wings stuff - Venus and Mars, At The Speed of Sound, Band On The Run. I also liked his first two solo albums - McCartney and RAM. If anyone saw Jerry McGuire, there is a scene where Tom is wooing the girl and an instrumental is playing. Took a while for me to figure it out but it came off of McCartney.


31 posted on 06/03/2004 4:03:46 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: Lijahsbubbe

Whether you like or dislike them, the Beatles were extremely talented. Not many groups break up and every one of them have successful solo careers.


32 posted on 06/03/2004 4:04:52 AM PDT by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: L.N. Smithee

I can clearly see the metaphor of smoking pot in that song. But that's the thing about songs, poetry, etc.- everyone will read something different. Would I have seen the innuendo without Paul's confession? Probably not. But some people need help finding Waldo too. ;)


33 posted on 06/03/2004 4:14:36 AM PDT by rintense (Screw justice. I want revenge.)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Thanks for that image.

I think I now need a shot of heroin to get that song out of my head...

/sarcasm


34 posted on 06/03/2004 4:47:37 AM PDT by KangarooJacqui ("Welcome to Tehran. Please set your watches back fourteen hundred years")
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Wow ... 60's and 70's rock star did smack. Er-frigging-mazing.


35 posted on 06/03/2004 4:50:10 AM PDT by Carcharodon
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To: anonymous_user

The walrus was Klein.


36 posted on 06/03/2004 4:55:00 AM PDT by GodBlessRonaldReagan (Count Petofi will not be denied!)
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To: KangarooJacqui
Thanks for that image.

I think I now need a shot of heroin

Oh.

Well... you're probably really gonna hate THIS one, then... :)


37 posted on 06/03/2004 4:55:43 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle (I feel more and more like a revolted Charlton Heston, witnessing ape society for the very first time)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

(Jacqui on phone to heroin dealer:) "Make mine a double-shot, and hang the consequences. After seeing that Michael Jackson pic, an overdose would be merciful..."

<:-)~~


38 posted on 06/03/2004 5:05:30 AM PDT by KangarooJacqui ("Welcome to Tehran. Please set your watches back fourteen hundred years")
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To: anonymous_user
I am the egg man

Drugs ? Naaa can't be *sarcasm
39 posted on 06/03/2004 5:38:05 AM PDT by Charlespg (Civilization and freedom are only worthy of those who defend or support defending It)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
"We wrote loads of stuff. We'd stuff some Twinings tea in a pipe, smoke that and write songs. It wasn't all good but we always came up with something.

Bogus. But here's to Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, John Lennnon (RIP), and George Harrison (RIP), as a whole, simply the best rock musicians and craftsmen ever.

40 posted on 06/03/2004 5:46:24 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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