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Feinstein Planning to Offer Semi-auto Ban as an Amendment Soon
Gun Owners of America ^ | June 02, 2004 | NA

Posted on 06/04/2004 2:21:55 AM PDT by neverdem

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Jun 2004

Feinstein Planning to Offer Semi-auto Ban as an Amendment Soon
-- Please urge your Senators to oppose this effort

Gun Owners of America
8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102
Springfield, VA 22151
(703)321-8585

Wednesday, June 2, 2004

Well, we knew this day would eventually come.

GOA has been warning gun owners that Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein of California would be looking for an avenue to attach her gun ban to unrelated legislation sometime this year.

According to Senate sources, Feinstein will be making her move quite soon.

While she reportedly has her eyes on a number of different bills as possible vehicles for her amendment, it seems certain that she will try to piggy-back her anti-gun language onto a legal reform bill (such as S. 2062) within the next few weeks.

You will remember that when Feinstein offered her gun ban amendment in March, it passed 52-47.

While a switch of only three Senators would be enough to kill the amendment, it seems that the easiest way to defeat Feinstein will be through a filibuster. Our side only needs 41 Senators to kill her amendment through the art of filibuster, and it would appear that we definitely have that many votes... BUT ONLY IF THE 47 SENATORS WHO VOTED RIGHT LAST TIME CONTINUE TO HOLD THE LINE!

That’s why we need another barrage of phone calls and e-mails going into Senate offices.

ACTION: Please contact your Senators and urge them to oppose any Feinstein amendment to reinstate the semi-auto ban. Tell them to also support any effort to filibuster this unconstitutional legislation.

You can send the letter as an e-mail by visiting the GOA Legislative Action Center at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm (where phone and fax numbers are also available).

----- Pre-written letter -----

Dear Senator:

I have been alerted to the fact that Sen. Dianne Feinstein is planning to offer the renewal of Clinton’s semi-auto ban as an amendment to legislation in upcoming weeks.

I would join the voices of many other Americans who would urge you to support our call for a filibuster against the reauthorization.

Please know that the Clinton semi-auto ban is one of the most hated pieces of legislation ever enacted, and those who support its reauthorization will find no friends or votes within the pro-gun community.

Sincerely,

****************************

Pratt To Speak

Larry Pratt, Gun Owners of America’s Executive Director, will be speaking at the Freedom Roast in Sioux Falls, SD on Saturday, June 12.

This is a family event with attractions for the kids while the parents are taking in the speeches or filling up on the free eats at this gala hog roast.

Pratt will be available at the GOA tent when he is not at the podium. His book and GOA membership applications will be available.

See http://www.freedomroast.us for more information.


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1 posted on 06/04/2004 2:21:57 AM PDT by neverdem
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To: *bang_list

BANG


2 posted on 06/04/2004 2:23:08 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

Someone explain to me how this will affect criminals and not law abiding people? Seems to me the only affect such bills will have is on the decent people while gangs won't give up firepower.


3 posted on 06/04/2004 2:37:28 AM PDT by The Bandit
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To: neverdem
In the unlikely and unthinkable event that the Dims regain control on the Hill or somehow lie, cheat or steal the presidency, I think I am going to seriously shop for an Independence Day gift for myself. Something in .40 or 9mm... I fear the day when our 2nd amendment rights are taken from us and freedom becomes a memory.
4 posted on 06/04/2004 2:39:27 AM PDT by Knute
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To: The Bandit
Someone explain to me how this will affect criminals and not law abiding people? Seems to me the only affect such bills will have is on the decent people while gangs won't give up firepower.

Better still, someone force Feinstein to explain why SHE thinks she's entitled to carry a concealed firearm while she goes out of her way to deny law-abiding American citizens their Second Amendment rights.

5 posted on 06/04/2004 3:13:48 AM PDT by Prime Choice (John Kerry is a butthead! ...or worse, a used car salesman.)
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To: The Bandit
re: explain to me how this will affect criminals

There is a low (IIRC 3% national or state) percentage of "assault weapons" that are used in crimes.

6 posted on 06/04/2004 3:15:00 AM PDT by endthematrix (To enter my lane you must use your turn signal!)
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To: neverdem
Does this mean that Feinstein would give up her pistol permits and weapons?

Oh yes, I thought not.

Regards,

7 posted on 06/04/2004 3:16:34 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: The Bandit
Someone explain to me how this will affect criminals and not law abiding people? Seems to me the only affect such bills will have is on the decent people while gangs won't give up firepower.

Don't just preach to the choir.  Communicate with your elected crooks to help torpedo her nonsense if you have not already.
8 posted on 06/04/2004 3:19:31 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: neverdem

b


9 posted on 06/04/2004 3:40:49 AM PDT by Lion Den Dan
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To: Knute

If you worry about that I suggest something in 7.62 Nato.


10 posted on 06/04/2004 4:13:23 AM PDT by Jack Black
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- bump -
Sent Emails to both of my Senators.
It is so easy to do - just click the link.


11 posted on 06/04/2004 4:20:52 AM PDT by DefCon
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To: Knute

"I fear the day when our 2nd amendment rights are taken from us and freedom becomes a memory."

It is just the prospect of such a day arriving that the 2nd Amendment was enacted in the first place. The 2nd Amendment is freedom's teeth, as George Washington said. When that day arrives, true patriots will show the tyrants just what the 2nd Amendment is all about.


12 posted on 06/04/2004 5:01:01 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Prime Choice

"Better still, someone force Feinstein to explain why SHE thinks she's entitled to carry a concealed firearm while she goes out of her way to deny law-abiding American citizens their Second Amendment rights."

Well, her life is so much more valuable than ours, don'cha know.


13 posted on 06/04/2004 5:02:11 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: Joe Brower; Travis McGee; Squantos

It's important to make those phone calls.


14 posted on 06/04/2004 5:06:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...


15 posted on 06/04/2004 5:09:08 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: neverdem

This guy needed 2nd amendment rights.
I hear that this man was arrested and killed by the state.

Contact Senator Feinstein

Can you own a gun in England?

Mayor Dianne Feinstein welcomes the Queen of England to San Franscisco.
(1983)

16 posted on 06/04/2004 5:29:16 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker (Oderint dum metuant)
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To: neverdem

Fienswine will attache this amendment to every piece of legislation that she can during the next several months. The anti-gunners simply do not want accept a defeat because they know that their precious "assault weapon ban" is a worthless, useless piece of legislation designed to get people used to banning guns based solely on cosmetics.


17 posted on 06/04/2004 5:34:54 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: DefCon; #1CTYankee; .303 Brit; 2nd amendment mama; 2Trievers; AGBRUHN; always vigilant; ...
It is so easy to do

Amen to that...bump this to the top and keep it going!!! CT Freepers...send these letters to our oh-so-wonderful /sarcasm Senators in DC. It's bad enough in CT as is, we don't need to give these guys another Federal ban with which to choke off our own rights here in our home state.

18 posted on 06/04/2004 5:38:39 AM PDT by Andonius_99
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To: neverdem

Is the article referring to the AWB? some new version of the AWB? or some new piece of crap outlawing all semi-automatic pistols, rifles and shotguns?

Pratt could try to be more clear in his announcements.


19 posted on 06/04/2004 5:53:04 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: neverdem

Oh boy;
is it ever depressing to be offered a quick means to 'alert your Senators..." about some piece of legislation when the legislation belongs to "your" senator.

Somehow, I don't think that "Dianne, please don't do it" would work.


20 posted on 06/04/2004 6:04:12 AM PDT by norton
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To: TC Rider
Is the article referring to the AWB?

Dear Senator:

I have been alerted to the fact that Sen. Dianne Feinstein is planning to offer the renewal of Clinton’s semi-auto ban as an amendment to legislation in upcoming weeks.
<snip>

Yes, it seems so.
21 posted on 06/04/2004 6:08:57 AM PDT by wysiwyg (What parts of "right of the people" and "shall not be infringed" do you not understand?)
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To: neverdem
I'm waiting patiently for the day when the "Bush can do no wrong" crowd get to explain to us about why the President signing and extension to the AW ban is a "good thing". it shouldn't be too long now.
22 posted on 06/04/2004 6:26:51 AM PDT by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: neverdem

e-mails away bump


23 posted on 06/04/2004 6:29:07 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: norton
Somehow, I don't think that "Dianne, please don't do it" would work.

How about, "Do you really want to be increasing Barbara Boxer's visibility on this issue now? If we're going to get her re-elected, perhaps you are better off keeping this out of sight until after the election." ;-)

24 posted on 06/04/2004 7:30:18 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: neverdem
Unfortunatly, I have Debbie Stabusall and Carl Lenin here who voted to ban the .30-30.

It will come down to the house.

25 posted on 06/04/2004 7:43:51 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong. - Reagan)
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To: ought-six

Locked and loaded. Ready aim.......... I love my 50 Caliber


26 posted on 06/04/2004 7:54:58 AM PDT by drypowder
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To: wysiwyg

I saw and read your 'snippet' but could not understand why Pratt is using confusing lanquage, rather than the readily identifiable Assault Weapon Ban.

I'm sure his point is that the grabbers would like to ban all semi-automatics, but he should try to be more clear when calling for a specific action.


27 posted on 06/04/2004 8:03:30 AM PDT by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: neverdem

Does anyone have a list on who voted which way on this bill?


28 posted on 06/04/2004 8:09:57 AM PDT by SoDak (SD, home of the 100% Rat delegation to Congress.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Oh yeah!
I do like that.
Thanks


29 posted on 06/04/2004 8:27:48 AM PDT by norton
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I agree that Feinstein will try to attach this thing to everything. My question is can any senator attach any ammendment to any bill? It seems like there would be some control over what gets attached where. Anyone have a good answer?


30 posted on 06/04/2004 9:05:24 AM PDT by garandag (Guns don't save lives, people with guns save lives.)
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To: garandag

Yes, any senator can attach any amenndment to any bill. An oversight of our forefathers. Here in Tennessee, our legislature cannot amend a bill with extraneous, unrelated crap. All amendments must deal with the main body which must contain only one subject.


31 posted on 06/04/2004 10:01:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: norton
Somehow, I don't think that "Dianne, please don't do it" would work.

You have expressed my predicament exactly. I can't rationally contact my Senators from NY. Therefore, I'm reduced to begging for help from the rest of the country, both for me and thee.

32 posted on 06/04/2004 10:04:32 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Major_Risktaker
Major_Risktaker posted a picture with caption: "Mayor Dianne Feinstein welcomes the Queen of England to San Franscisco. "

A more correct caption would be: "Elizabeth the Second is welcomed by the Queen of San Francisco".

33 posted on 06/04/2004 10:10:04 AM PDT by William Tell (Californians! See "www.rkba.members.sonic.net" to support California RKBA.)
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To: neverdem
Anybody want to predict whether the AWB will sunset, be extended, or strengthened?


34 posted on 06/04/2004 10:27:56 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Travis McGee
Extended and made permanent.

L

35 posted on 06/04/2004 10:38:17 AM PDT by Lurker ("Freedom begins when you tell Mrs. Grundy to go fly a kite"-Robert Heinlein)
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To: Travis McGee

The current ban will sunset. Bush-the-veto-less-wonder will sign a permament strengthened one after he is re-elected, and many here will make excuses for the betrayal. By that time tens of thousands will have been re-worked to pre-ban configuration. Eventually, those who want to keep and trade such will have to register them as in California. There will be massive non-compliance. A strengthened BATFE will increase harassment and prosecutions for technical and paperwork violations. The landing on the staircase to a socialist hell will be short and slick, before the descent continues. The NRA will claim victory as the resultant treason will have been watered down from something even more draconian. And the beards will have grown longer overnight.


36 posted on 06/04/2004 11:31:19 AM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: Travis McGee

Sunset, imho.


37 posted on 06/04/2004 11:56:40 AM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: neverdem
Feinstein Planning to Offer Semi-auto Ban as an Amendment Soon

Stuck_in_new_orleans Planning to kick Feinstein in the NUTS soon

38 posted on 06/04/2004 12:04:49 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: neverdem

There's gotta be some rule against endlessly pushing the same bill on everything that comes along after it loses, in the same session. Isn't there? :(


39 posted on 06/04/2004 12:08:59 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Travis McGee

Sunset BTTT!


40 posted on 06/04/2004 12:16:58 PM PDT by Freemeorkillme (Strike at the heart of the enemy! Support your conservative media now by picking up the pen!)
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To: Travis McGee; Shooter 2.5; Joe Brower; fourdeuce82d
Cox: During debate on the "Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act," the Senate passed an amendment by Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to extend Bill Clinton`s 1994 gun ban for another 10 years. Back in 1996, you were one of 239 House members who voted to repeal the ban. Why did you believe the law should be repealed then, and has anything during the past 10 years happened to change your opinion?

Rep. DeLay: I am and have been against the gun ban, because I believe it violates the Second Amendment, and nothing in the last 10 years has changed that. The Second Amendment states that "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed," and I don`t see enough support in the House to ensure passage of something that would so blatantly infringe on this individual right.

Here's the link.

I believe the matter will be resolved with Rep. DeLay.

41 posted on 06/04/2004 12:42:34 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Travis McGee
Anybody want to predict whether the AWB will sunset, be extended, or strengthened?

Congress won't be in session much longer (they still need to campaign, as we're not yet to the point of giving them lifetime appointments for the sake of "national security"), so I think the ban will sunset in Sept.

If the Kerry wins and the rats win Congress, there will likely be an outright ban on all semiauto rifles. They may or may not 'grandfather' existing ones, but the end result will be the same, if patriots sit on their hands.

If Bush wins, and the rats win Congress, the same will happen. Bush will sign any gun-control bill they pass.

I think if the Republicans can continue to hold the House, then a new bill will not pass, barring some 'super Columbine' event, like the one in your book.

42 posted on 06/04/2004 12:48:43 PM PDT by Mulder (Those who would give up liberty for temporary security, deserve neither -- Ben Franklin)
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To: neverdem
Yes, Mr. DeLay is one good man to have standing in our camp.

You ever notice that the politicians who are the most upstanding and honorable, thereby having the least to fear from uppity peasants, are the ones who don't mind us peons having guns? And how the polticos with the totalitarian/Marxist leanings are the ones who want us stripped of our ability to defend ourselves and our families?

No coincidence there.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

43 posted on 06/04/2004 12:56:32 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: norton
And when I contact Hitlery & Gun Grabbing Chuck Shmucker, they will be happy to consider my wishes! /s
44 posted on 06/04/2004 1:07:45 PM PDT by NYTexan
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To: Travis McGee
Anybody want to predict whether the AWB will sunset, be extended, or strengthened?

I think it's going to be strengthened. Do you have Feinswine's proposed additions that she wants to add to the existing gun ban? IF she gets those added, it's going to be very bad.

45 posted on 06/04/2004 1:43:31 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (I am a nobody, and nobody is perfect; therefore, I am perfect.)
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To: SoDak; Dan from Michigan
SoDak wrote, "Does anyone have a list on who voted which way on this bill?"

Here's a list of the usual RINOs, IIRC.

I believe you can assume all the rats voted for the AWB. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Fitzgerald declined to run for re-election this year, and all the others either have safe seats or are not up for re-election this year.

46 posted on 06/04/2004 3:01:05 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: LibTeeth

Pretty likely scenario I think.


47 posted on 06/04/2004 3:32:46 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: LibTeeth

It's good to know you can see into the future. /sarcasm


48 posted on 06/04/2004 3:37:04 PM PDT by COEXERJ145
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To: neverdem
Dems voted against AW ban in 2004
Baucus, Landrieu, Feingold, Miller, Nelson, Reid,

Dems voting against Gun show ban in 2004
Baucus, Miller, BEN Nelson,

Dem's voting against Ted Kennedy's ban on all center fire ammunition(30-30ban)
Lincoln, Pryor, Zell Miller, Dorgan, Baucus, BEN Nelson, Bingaman, Breaux, Reid, Jeffords(He's a dem), Conrad, Landrieu, Leahy, Dasshole

GOP voting FOR AW ban in 04
Chafee, Collins, Snowe, Voinovich, Warner, Smith, Lugar, Fitzgerald, Gregg, DeWine

GOP voting FOR gun show ban in 04
Lugar, McStain, Chafee, DeWine, Hagel, Fitzgerald, WArner, Voinovich.

GOP voting for Kennedy ban
Lincoln Chafee

Missed votes

AWB - Johnson
Gun Show - Johnson
.30-30 ban - Domenici, Edwards, Johnson

49 posted on 06/04/2004 3:38:14 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America being passive. They were wrong. - Reagan)
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To: LibTeeth
"The current ban will sunset. Bush-the-veto-less-wonder will sign a permament strengthened one after he is re-elected, and many here will make excuses for the betrayal."

Nope. President Bush has already said that while he would reauthorize existing gun control, that he wouldn't sign additional constraints into law.

50 posted on 06/04/2004 3:40:14 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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