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J'ACCUSE: "President [Bush] approved the leaking of the name of the CIA agent" claims John Loftus
transcribed radio broadcast | June 3, 2004 | Batchelor & Loftus

Posted on 06/04/2004 6:10:38 AM PDT by Boot Hill

The John Batchelor Show
WABC 770 AM News Talk Radio
New York City
Thursday, June 3, 2004
7:35pm, EST

On Thursday night's broadcast of the John Batchelor Show, long-time intelligence gadfly, John Loftus accused that "the President himself approved the leaking of the name of the CIA agent". What follows is an exact transcription of the relevant portions of the show.

(Transcription begins 3:52 minutes into The Loftus Report segment of the John Batchelor show. [transcriber's notes in brackets])

Batchelor:   And I'm certain that Patrick O'Donnell and John Loftus have now convinced you all that the landings on Normandy, the landings on June sixth, sixty years ago, depended upon intelligence and counter-intelligence operations that were successful operations. Fortitude, there was Ultra, the German code and doesn't that bring us to today, gentlemen? Lets, let's deal with the fact that we're in a war right now and the DCI, the man comparable to Wild Bill Donovon, the only one comparable, [talk over] who landed on Utah Beach, lied to everybody and got onto Utah Beach, the man comparable to Wild Bill Donovan, has resigned, John. Ahh, surprised, not surprised and why do we believe he left his office suddenly?

Loftus:   You know, it's a combination of things. Partly was because he realized that he was missing his family. The guy has given up a huge amount of his time. His son was getting ready to go to college next year, this is his last year to do it. That was on his mind, but you know part of it was, something else. Now, the the liberals are saying its, oh, he had to be the fall guy for the intelligence screw ups. That's not it. And, uhh, the conservatives are saying that, ahh, you know, he had to fall on his sword to protect the Bush administration, that's not it. What people are telling me tonight is that the guy finally had it. The straw that broke his camel's back was that [Curry?] came to CIA two days ago saying, oh my God, this is what's going on at the grand jury. That it wasn't just Carl Rove and other people, the President himself approved the leaking of the name of the CIA agent.

Batchelor:   And were not going to use that aim..., name. I believe everybody knows this in terms of the Wilson affair. This has to do with visit of Africa by Joe Wilson, ambassador Joseph Wilson, who, uhh, visited there at the behest of the Bush administration in two-thousand and three, two-thousand and two, two-thousand and three, two-thousand and two, brought back information that is itself complicated, to do with whether the Iraqi's were trying to buy uranium, U-235, uhh, uhh, ore, in a nuclear weapons program, the reporting, I can not encapsulate it anymore than that. But, there is an active grand jury, we know this from Joe Wilson, himself.

Loftus:   And the witnesses are talking.

Batchelor:   And this has to do, and Patrick your, your, this is why it's intelligence matter, with the fact that there are laws on the books, and then there's the general understanding that you never reveal the name of a "NOC". What is the..., what is a "NOC", John?

Loftus:   Ahh, Non-Official Cover [unintelligible]. It's the toughest job in the world. You have to go in without diplomatic immunity and spy. And, uhh, Ambassador Wilson's wife was a really serious high level CIA spy. For political reasons, a couple people in the Whitehouse said, let's expose this woman to get brownie points.

Batchelor:   And this has to do with the summer of two-thousand and three, after that there was contradiction about the uranium 235 story, ahh, from Joseph Wilson who published an op-ed in the New York Times in July of two-thousand and three.

Loftus:   Now there's a real danger saying "post hoc ergo propter hoc", it's an old fancy phrase for saying "just because something happened yesterday, doesn't predict what happens tomorrow", there's no connection maybe connecting the dots. But, there's a lot of gossip on the intel side saying, this was it, this was the straw, that that broke Tenant's heart. And he resigned under protest, but didn't protest. He'll protect the Bush administration, umm, John McLaughlin will be the anointed successor. There will be no hearings until after the election is over. Uhh, but Tenent's had it, I mean, he had to stand up for his agency and he's a stand-up guy, he's a class act. A lot of people knock him, but I think that we were very lucky to have a guy like him.

Batchelor:   George Tenent, born 1953, graduated Georgetown and Columbia University, uhh, was app..., was confirmed DCI in 1997, we're now an acting DCI.

(Transcription ends 7:43 minutes into The Loftus Report segment of the John Batchelor show.)

 


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: batchelor; bush; cia; cialeak; josephwilson; leak; loftus; plame; plamegate; tenent; wilson
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John Loftus

This is the man that claims that Bush profited from the Holocaust. John Loftus also claims that this war is all about oil. Loftus has called for a congressional investigation into Bush-Nazi ties. Loftus claims that Jonathan Pollard is a victim. Loftus claims that the attack on the USS Liberty was a necessary act of self-defense by Israel.

And now this pudgy Elmer Fudd with a bad hairpiece, charges the President with ordering the disclosure of a deep-cover CIA agent's name as an act of partisan political revenge.

How much longer will people continue to give this far-left buffoon any credibility?

--Boot Hill

1 posted on 06/04/2004 6:10:39 AM PDT by Boot Hill
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To: Boot Hill

I still don't see how someone can leak one of the worst kept secrets in Washington.


2 posted on 06/04/2004 6:15:27 AM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (Proud member of the right wing extremist Neanderthals.)
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To: Boot Hill
That's not a hairpiece and you're wrong on other counts too. He claimed that Bush's grandfather was trading with the enemy until stopped cold by the Roosevelt administration. This claim is accurate for me but doesn't keep me from voting for GW same as I did in 2000.
3 posted on 06/04/2004 6:15:35 AM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: Boot Hill

He is a liar. President Bush would never do anything like that.


4 posted on 06/04/2004 6:16:06 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: Boot Hill

About as long as they take Michael Moore seriously.....


5 posted on 06/04/2004 6:16:33 AM PDT by pghkevin (Have you hugged your kids today? Have you thanked someone in the Military today?)
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To: Boot Hill

Another conspiracy theorist? Their everywhere!


6 posted on 06/04/2004 6:17:17 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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To: Boot Hill

What happened to Bachelor's partner, Paul Alexander?


7 posted on 06/04/2004 6:17:39 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Boot Hill

Well, he is an Irish guy from Dorchester, MA (like me) - he can't be all bad.

;)


8 posted on 06/04/2004 6:17:43 AM PDT by Conservomax (You eat pieces of $hit for breakfast?)
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To: Boot Hill
Batchelor: "And were not going to use that aim..., name. I believe everybody knows this in terms of the Wilson affair."

LOL, they are still acting like her name is some secret or something. Somebody better inform Vanity Fair. For that matter, somebody better inform Joe Wilson, who's had her name listed in his bio for ages.

9 posted on 06/04/2004 6:19:05 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Conservomax

He's a Dot Ave kinda guy?


10 posted on 06/04/2004 6:20:20 AM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: Boot Hill

Loftus needs to take the needle out of his arm and the crack pipe out of his mouth and come back to Earth


11 posted on 06/04/2004 6:21:58 AM PDT by MJY1288 (Our Wounded Soldiers at Walter Reed Have Yet to be Visited by John Kerry. What's he Afraid of?)
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To: Boot Hill

Well, here ya go, the next scandal to distract attention from the latest job report.


12 posted on 06/04/2004 6:22:08 AM PDT by FlipWilson
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To: Boot Hill
That it wasn't just Carl Rove and other people, the President himself approved the leaking of the name of the CIA agent.

Loftus seems to be all over the map - I say this as a new listener to John Bachelor. Last night shows he is another lefty conspiraziod.
13 posted on 06/04/2004 6:22:24 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

"I still don't see how someone can leak one of the worst kept secrets in Washington."

Target, fire for effect.....LOL!

This is just an example of how completely and totally "out of ammo" the Democrats are right now, with the economy booming and Iraq beginning to turn the corner.

Its a smoke screen which has the purpose of disguising the simple fact the Democrats have no viable "strategy" beyond "Hate Bush".

Its failing as the Kerry internal poll numbers are showing today.


14 posted on 06/04/2004 6:23:07 AM PDT by Badeye
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To: Boot Hill




But, there's a lot of gossip on the intel side saying, this was it, this was the straw, that that broke Tenant's heart.

Gossip. Rather unpersuasive.

More interesting is the revelation that Tenant's heart is a camel's back.


15 posted on 06/04/2004 6:25:38 AM PDT by Sabertooth (Mohammed wrote: "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers." (Sura 8:12))
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To: Badeye

What Kerry internal poll#s?


16 posted on 06/04/2004 6:25:50 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: Boot Hill

I catch the Batchelor show for about 20 almost every week night. He praises Wilson like he is a hero. I just make me sick. I have no faith in a man who thinks this liar Wilson is anything to this country.


17 posted on 06/04/2004 6:26:17 AM PDT by bmwcyle (<a href="http://www.johnkerry.com/" target="_blank">miserable failure)
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To: Boot Hill

The claim that Tenet resigned out of disgust with the Bush administration is pretty clearly false.


18 posted on 06/04/2004 6:26:46 AM PDT by Bonaventure
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To: Paul_B
"What happened to Bachelor's partner, Paul Alexander?"

BAD BLOOD SPELLS SPLIT FOR WABC TEAM(Batchelor and Alexander) The separation was due in part to the unreliability of John Loftus.

--Boot Hill

19 posted on 06/04/2004 6:27:17 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Kind of hard to be under cover when you're listed in Who's Who.


20 posted on 06/04/2004 6:28:40 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (STAGMIRE !)
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To: Boot Hill
It's pretty obvious that whoever "leaked" Plame's name was a Washington newcomer who believed that Plame was a CIA "employee", but not an agent (probably because the "secret" was so open in DC). The intent of the leak was not to endanger or "blow Plame's cover", but to let everyone know who it was that recommended sending former Ambassador Wilson to Africa in the first place. The whole incident is equivalent to Senator Leahy getting caught leaking classified information, and the person who did it (Rove is a logical suspect) ought to own up to it and resign; everyone else should then let the matter rest (after all, "Leaky Leahy" is still a sitting Senator). It was perfectly predictable, after Mr. Bush hired an attorney, that some loony lefties would hang this charge out there.
21 posted on 06/04/2004 6:29:08 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: dennisw
"...you're wrong on other counts too."

Nope, the claims I posted in #1 may be crazy and they may be looney, but they are, in fact, claims made by John Loftus.

--Boot Hill

22 posted on 06/04/2004 6:30:47 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: Boot Hill
What people are telling me tonight is...

Ok, who are those people?

DU posters? Paid political hacks? Al Franken?

23 posted on 06/04/2004 6:32:59 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Sabertooth
"More interesting is the revelation that Tenant's heart is a camel's back."

LOL, what else would you expect from someone that's got his head up his rear?

--Boot Hill

24 posted on 06/04/2004 6:34:35 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: pawdoggie

While we're on the subject, sort of, did we ever find out just who is was that sent Wilson on his little junket?


25 posted on 06/04/2004 6:34:48 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Boot Hill

Thanks, I seldom listen and was unaware of that.


26 posted on 06/04/2004 6:35:03 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Well, if the incompetent George Tenet is the source of this nonsense and is as accurate about this as he was about: 1) 9/11; 2) WMDs a "slam dunk" in Iraq; and 3) Pakistan having "No" nuclear capability in 1998, then Bush has nuttin' to worry about.


27 posted on 06/04/2004 6:35:50 AM PDT by laconic
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To: Allan; Shermy

Ping.


28 posted on 06/04/2004 6:36:09 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Boot Hill

Thanks for the picture. He looks like Moore's daddy to me.

Hoppy


29 posted on 06/04/2004 6:38:42 AM PDT by Hop A Long Cassidy
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To: Boot Hill
"How much longer will people continue to give this far-left buffoon any credibility?" No parameters for 'fairness' for Loftus or his political ilk. They reveal themselves to be the lowest common denominator in the political equasion of Republican/Democrat.

. . .And while there may be other similarities; Joe Wilson is not the 'horses mouth' either; and the same goes for Loftus.

30 posted on 06/04/2004 6:39:42 AM PDT by cricket
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To: Conservomax

You must be on Mission Hill?


31 posted on 06/04/2004 6:41:43 AM PDT by dasboot (<img src="XXX">)
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To: Boot Hill
This is the man that claims that Bush profited from the Holocaust.

I don't know anything about the merits of Loftus' claim, but he's talking about Prescott Bush, isn't he? George W. Bush wasn't born until July 6, 1946, after World War II had ended.

32 posted on 06/04/2004 6:52:22 AM PDT by Mitchell
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To: Mitchell
"[Loftus is] talking about Prescott Bush, isn't he?"

His accusation has been made against the Bush family, which would include Prescott as well as George W.

--Boot Hill

33 posted on 06/04/2004 6:59:57 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: Boot Hill

Good grief, he can assert anything he likes. He can claim President Bush is in cahoots with aliens. How about some PROOF before passing on gossip and liberal wishful thinking as meaningful commentary. No proof? No evidence?

Didn't think so.


34 posted on 06/04/2004 7:29:05 AM PDT by edweena
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To: Boot Hill

Loftus makes stuff up as he goes along. Up until Saddam Hussein was arrested, Loftus claimed he had been killed in the first bombings of Baghdad.

I do not believe for an instant that Bush would approve this. He is not that kind of man.


35 posted on 06/04/2004 7:34:44 AM PDT by zook
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To: Boot Hill

This blowhard is a Fox personality on the weekend and he's NEVER said one thing thtat has come true! Gadfly??? Liar.


36 posted on 06/04/2004 7:43:00 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Paul_B
My own, personal theory involves a nervous breakdown at 'Elaine's', a confrontation at gunpoint and a horrific scene whose denouement came when Alexander fled, in a bid to preserve some semblance of sanity after working with that pretentious, insufferable WASP for the past three years.

If you want the official story, here goes:

Alexander got bored, a little tired of Bachelor hogging the spotlight and found a much better offer courtesy of The 'Great White Way.'

Aside from being an historian and a freelance journalist, Paul Alexander is also a very successful playwright. One of the off-Broadway plays he wrote hit a nerve, became successful and he decided to ditch his longtime co-host.

Does that clarify things a little?

37 posted on 06/04/2004 7:46:45 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (Is it just me, or is that 'Red Stripe' beer commercial really odd?)
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To: edweena
"How about some PROOF before passing on gossip and liberal wishful thinking as meaningful commentary."

That's the beauty of his scam, he's "connected", don't ya know, and all his sources are deep black and can't be disclosed! Pretty convenient, wouldn't you say?

--Boot Hill

38 posted on 06/04/2004 7:56:25 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: zook
"Loftus makes stuff up as he goes along."

You mean like when he made the unsubstantiated claim that when the Jordanians busted the terrorist plot in April, that the "chemical weapons" they caught them with were VX nerve agent? Major news if true, but the claim was never substantiated.

--Boot Hill

39 posted on 06/04/2004 8:00:43 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: Ann Archy
You nailed it.

--Boot Hill

40 posted on 06/04/2004 8:11:13 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: dennisw

If by that you mean "Passed out in front of the 'Emerald Isle'" - I don't know.


41 posted on 06/04/2004 8:16:33 AM PDT by Conservomax (You eat pieces of $hit for breakfast?)
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To: ItsonlikeDonkeyKong

Sorry, no idea what you're talking about with the gun, Elaines, WASP, etc.


42 posted on 06/04/2004 8:17:30 AM PDT by Paul_B
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To: Boot Hill
How dare you, man? I was in 'Nam fighting Charlie while you were soiling your Pampers man! I personally strangled Gen. Ngo Diem with my own bare hands. Than I wiped my ass with piece of bamboo that was stuck in my upper molars! I could call my contacts in Foggy Bottom and have you wrecked in a second, buddy! You think I'm jokin' here, don't test the rest dude. I have a cousin who works in the Chinese restaurant where Kim Jong-Il personally escorts his entourage of Swedish hookers and German masseuses. It's like that man! I'm so hooked up that there are electrodes attached to my balls! So don't test me, man! I'm crazy like that!
43 posted on 06/04/2004 8:18:11 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ( "Have you no morals, man?" "No. No. I can't afford dem guv'ner.")
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To: Paul_B
Sorry, the first part was just my feeble attempt at humor, which relied heavily on specific New York City landmarks that I'm pretty sure would be lost on someone who's not from around these parts.

The rest of my post is pretty much accurate; I'm not sure if Alexander is still writing plays, or working on a novel, or what, but he is temporarily out of the talk radio biz.

44 posted on 06/04/2004 8:21:21 AM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid ( "Have you no morals, man?" "No. No. I can't afford dem guv'ner.")
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To: Boot Hill

Have any of his reports ever been substantiated?


45 posted on 06/04/2004 8:23:19 AM PDT by zook
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To: txrangerette

"What Kerry internal poll#s?"

The ones cited by Dick Morris, Susan Estrich, Mort Kondracke, Chris Matthews, Robert Reich, Zell Miller, Juan Williams, Ceci Connelly, Tim Russert, Inside the Beltway, Roll Call, Inside Politics, Paul Begala, James Carville and CNN.....to name a few.


46 posted on 06/04/2004 8:25:06 AM PDT by Badeye
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To: mewzilla
While we're on the subject, sort of, did we ever find out just who is was that sent Wilson on his little junket?

No, but as a CIA "operative", Plame must have run it through her chain, which would include soon to be former DCI Tenet.

47 posted on 06/04/2004 8:34:24 AM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: zook
"Have any of his reports ever been substantiated?"

How can anyone every tell? That's another part of the beauty of his scam (see #38), his reports are not backed up by transcripts that can be checked later for accuracy. The transcripts I post are done by hand by me.

--Boot Hill

48 posted on 06/04/2004 8:40:16 AM PDT by Boot Hill (Candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo, candy-gram for Osama bin Mongo!)
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To: Boot Hill

I heard this last night. I am not buying his whole argument.

But I will say this: something is going on that grand jury, someone is saying something, because Bush retained Sharp for some reason. And I don't like the fact that it happened at the same time as Tenet leaving for "personal and financial reasons".

Do we know who has testified in front of that grand jury? Why haven't they subpoenaed Robert Novak? He supposedly knows the truth.

I guess what I sam saying is - I think the left could cook up a case here against Bush, we don't know what the witnesses are saying, are they saying things because someone got to them. Potentially, its a big problem for Bush.


49 posted on 06/04/2004 8:44:41 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Boot Hill

actually, the rift flared up when Alexander trash talked Loftus (on the air) because Loftus would not back up Alexander's claim that there was a conspiracy to kill JFK.


50 posted on 06/04/2004 8:48:16 AM PDT by oceanview
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