[mcg1969]

What an incredible spin. "Keep black laundry in black washing machines." Oh, please. Am I to believe that privately, black civil rights leaders blame their own people, while publicly they excoriate The Man? No way.

[mcg1969]

Here's another gem: Without non-traditional language, we wouldn’t have Public Enemy rapping “Don’t Believe The Hype,” Diana Ross singing “Ain’t No Mountain High Enough,” or Bob Marley declaring he had “So Much Things to Say.” Without slang, we wouldn’t have the blues poems of Langston Hughes, or some of the patois-infused verse of Derek Walcott.

Of course you wouldn't, but these artists would very likely have still produced art. It would have been different, but it's incredible to suggest it would be worse just because it might actually use proper English.

[headsonpikes]

Mistah Farley should title his column 'Carry Me Back To Old Virginny'.

Plantation days placemarker.

[FormerLib]

What, they want to control what Bill Cosby is allowed to say just because he's Black? How racist!

[laotzu]

Is this Chris Farley of SNL fame?

[ClearCase_guy]

Actually, this makes me think even less of Jesse Jackson. I suppose I am expected to believe that (in private conversation) Jesse Jackson often says, "We cause the problems. It's our own damn fault. Our culture is rotten -- you know it and I know it. But, forget about that, I'm going to go extort more money from the White folks. I got some new dirt I can pin on Texaco, and all I want to say is 'Ka-Ching!'"

[laotzu]

Is this Chris Farley of SNL fame?

[b4its2late]

Hearing the truth must hurt when you know you are wrong.

[Zionist Conspirator]

Yes, Cosby is right that education is important and kids should master English — but they should also be taught that vernacular black culture has worth. Certainly Zora Neale Hurston, who wrote such vernacular classics as Their Eyes Were Watching God — understood that. “Zora chose to write in dialect because she thought the language of ordinary, rural, self-educated black folk was beautiful,” Valerie Boyd, author of the Hurston biography Wrapped in Rainbows told me. “She thought this language — the language of her youth, her primary language as a storyteller — was poetic and rich and full of vivid imagery and worthy of being celebrated and immortalized in literature.”

So let's see . . . when poor Blacks use rural Southern dialect liberals love it and conservatives scream at them to get an education. When poor rural Southern whites use rural Southern dialect conservatives love it and liberal laugh at them because they don't speak proper English.

Does this sum it up?

[Post Toasties]

“People marched and were hit in the face with rocks to get an education, and now we’ve got these knuckleheads walking around...the lower economic people are not holding up their end of the deal. These people are not parenting.” He went on: “Someone working at Wal-Mart with seven kids, you are hurting us. We have to start holding each other to a higher standard.” And he mocked the way some blacks name their children: “With names like Shaniqua, Taliqua and Mohammed and all that crap, and all of them are in jail....They are standing on the corner and they can’t speak English.”

Am not black myself but I've always asserted the first half of what is excerpted here publicly to whomever. However, I place the lion's share of the blame on Leftists with their dialectic and their lower economic strata social engineering which has more or less openly manipulated black culture in the past to expedite certain socialist objectives.

[wingnutx]

Cosby’s commentary is also strikingly similar to the words of a younger, hipper cultural critic: comedian Chris Rock. In Rock’s “Niggas vs. Black people” routine from his breakthrough 1996 “Bring the Pain” tour, Rock contrasted the values of middle class blacks with lower-income blacks who had succumbed to a kind of gangsta despair... “There's like a civil war going on with black people,” Rock announced. “There are two sides: there's black people, and there's niggas. And niggas have got to go.”

That Chris Rock routine is hysterical, and also very insightful.

[mhking]

but several were more horrified that he had gone public, not at the opinions themselves

Far easier to control the sheep when they don't think for themselves and work to extricate themselves from the mire they are in...

[HamiltonJay]

AT this day and age, much of the problems in the "black community" if you can even call what many black inner city neighborhoods have fallen into communities, are largely self inflicted.

Yes there is still racism in the world, but the biggest most fundamental issues anymore are not the ignorant cracker that's holding them down.