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Is McCain a Fraud?
The Baltimore Chronicle ^ | June 21, 2004 | Russell Tyldesley

Posted on 06/21/2004 10:43:47 AM PDT by John Lenin

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To: Numbers Guy
Tyldesley believes that the media is supporting Bush. I think that pretty much shoots his credibility.

I went over to DU a few minutes ago, because I wanted a shadenfraude moment, reveling in the angst over the Nader/Camejo ticket. But they are collectively pretending that there was no such announcement today.

What they are talking about is how The New York Times is part of the dastardly Karl Rove political machine, because they had a story about Kerry going boating that implied that he and his wife are quite wealthy.

21 posted on 06/21/2004 11:13:38 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: meandog

Just vote for Kerry and get it over with.


22 posted on 06/21/2004 11:15:41 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: meandog

I see you've been raiding Cindy McCain's medicine cabinet again.


23 posted on 06/21/2004 11:16:56 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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Senator John Mccain (R)
Arizona
Republican, Years of Service: 21

ACU Ratings for Senator Mccain:
Year 2003 75
Year 2002 78
Lifetime 84

24 posted on 06/21/2004 11:18:03 AM PDT by deport (Don't skinny dip with snapping turtles.)
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To: John Lenin

McCain isn't Presidential or Vice-Presidential material....for either party. He's not mentally stable.


25 posted on 06/21/2004 11:18:03 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: VaBthang4

They had to ask?


26 posted on 06/21/2004 11:19:39 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: 1Old Pro

At least he won't be out there working for Kerry.


27 posted on 06/21/2004 11:21:19 AM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

This article is nothing more than an assault on McCain from the hard environmental left.

Gee ... a Greenie denouncing a Republican? Next your going to tell me the sun has a tendency to rise in the East...


28 posted on 06/21/2004 11:21:55 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: John Lenin
At least he won't be out there working for Kerry.

We'll see. He'll do anything for attention.

29 posted on 06/21/2004 11:23:34 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: rintense

I guess the same could have been said asked when Reagan picked Bush as his running mate. "Why...would Republicans want a ticket that becomes MORE liberal?" It's all about winning and putting the best ticket out there to attract the votes of the 10% independent, undecided, moderate voter who decides every election. If the Republicans could depend on a 60-70% turnout of their rank and file there would be no need for these silly games.


30 posted on 06/21/2004 11:27:35 AM PDT by Russ
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To: Russ
As I've said before...

Everytime we pick a liberal candidate, we take a step backwards. This country has moved more to the left in the past 10 years than any other time. And when a Republican or conservative gets elected, they have to correct the mess. For every two steps made by liberalism, there's only one step back, which means getting more and more liberal is inevitable...

UNLESS we stop it now.

Instead of picking a media darling, why not pick someone more conservative? If you want to jump on the 'let the media pick the candidate' bandwagon, go for it. I've been taken on that ride before, and have no intention to go on it again.

31 posted on 06/21/2004 11:50:14 AM PDT by rintense (Screw justice. I want revenge.)
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To: Russ
How about Bush/McCain?

Never please! Or say goodbye to your base.

32 posted on 06/21/2004 12:13:10 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: John Lenin
John McCain may be crazy, but he's not stupid.

If he runs with Kerry and Kerry loses, he's toast because losing VP candidates are nothing in the twisted world of Democrat politics -- even losing Democrat presidential candidates rarely get a second shot at the top spot.

If he runs with Kerry and Kerry wins, he will just be another Vice President.

McCain's best hope is to support Bush for President. Regardless of whether a Bush-Cheney ticket wins or loses, supporting Bush is in McCain's best interest for 2008.

If Bush dumps Cheney (which I don't think is a high probability, though I do think it is more probably that Cheney will withdraw his name.), McCain is one of the logical replacements. Only Rudy Guiliani, Colin Powell, and Condi Rice would seem to be contenders. So let's examine the two possibilities of a Bush-McCain versus Kerry-Gonzo ticket.

If Bush-McCain wins, McCain will almost be guaranteed being at the head of the 2008 ticket with Guiliani or Powell or Rice.

If Bush-McCain loses, McCain will still be in the hunt for the top spot on the ticket in 2008.

The bottom line is that being with Bush has a future, but being with Kerry has no future for McCain.

{I would posit that you can drop the words "for McCain" from the last sentence and it becomes a truism for all Americans who are not recipients of government largess.

33 posted on 06/21/2004 12:25:34 PM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: meandog

I appreciate the genralization but I've never spoken well of McLame.
Anyone else doing so simply has an agenda that is neither Conservative nor Constitutional...maybe Loserdopians & Liberals....now they might like him.


34 posted on 06/21/2004 12:27:40 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches Over Israel WIll Neither Slumber Nor Sleep)
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To: Howlin

Haha...


35 posted on 06/21/2004 3:23:45 PM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep)
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To: eternity
>>This POW/MIA issue. <<

You found the piece of burning charcoal about McCain that makes me literally hate the bastard! POW/MIA's abandoned by their own country because of this Commie!
36 posted on 06/21/2004 5:36:23 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( GET READY!!..-> http://www.ready.gov/get_a_kit.html)
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To: rintense
You want this piece of shit to be our VP? KEEP READING!

(SNIP)
John McCain is, and as such, his character can and should be examined.

What is the real story behind his days as a POW? The U.S. Veteran Dispatch had an article in June of 1996 entitled "POW Songbird McCain Wrongly Described As A Hero." It recounted numerous instances where John McCain violated the Military Coda of Conduct, which specifically orders American personnel to give the enemy no information other than name, rank, serial number, and date of birth. It requires that they accept no favors from the enemy, and to make no written or oral statement disloyal to the United States.

The fact is, in exchange for better medical treatment, McCain violated this code four days after being captured on Oct. 26, 1967. In a U.S. News and World Report interview dated May 14, 1973, two months after he was released, McCain admitted that he exchanged military information in exchange for spending six weeks in a hospital normally reserve for North Vietnamese Military officers.

U.S. government records show that less than two weeks after he was taken to the hospital, Hanoi's press began quoting specific military information, including the name of the aircraft carrier on which McCain had been based, information about the location of rescue ships and the order of which his attack was supposed to take place. The records demonstrate, according to the Dispatch article that McCain continued to collaborate with the Communists after he recovered from his injuries. He did a number of propaganda broadcasts that were aimed at destroying the moral of American servicemen fighting in the jungles of South Vietnam, On June 4, 1969, a U.S. Wire Service story reported one of McCain's broadcasts.

The service reported "Hanoi has aired a broadcast in which the pilot son of the U.S. Commander in the Pacific, Adm. John McCain purportedly admits to having bombed civilian targets in North Vietnam and praised medical treatment he has received since being taken prisoner."

McCain committed other breaches of the Code of Conduct by meeting with and giving interviews to foreign news reporters and anti American delegations.

McCain admits to talking with numerous high-ranking North Vietnamese leaders, including General Vo Nguyen Giap, their Minister of Defense.

He also did a cozy interview over coffee, oranges, and cake wish a Cuban psychiatrist, which took place in the Hanoi office of the Committee for Foreign Cultural Relations.

He failed to "evade answering questions to the utmost of his ability;" by actually conversing with his interviewer in Spanish.

Perhaps these are some of the reasons why John McCain hip been so instrumental in discounting any suggestion that live prisoners of war still languish in Southeast Asia. It certainly does explain to me why he traveled to Hanoi in May of 1993 with soon-to-be Ambassador to Vietnam Pete Peterson, and convinced the Communist leadership to agree that they would NEVER MAKE PUBLIC THEIR INTERROGATION FILES OF AMERICAN POWs.

It should have made him ineligible to sit in judgment of those men who still wait for freedom. I believe it clearly makes him morally unfit to ever lead this nation, to be the Commander of all our armed forces someday.



http://www.namvets.com/Reading/john_mccain_is_no_war_hero.htm
37 posted on 06/21/2004 5:45:54 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( GET READY!!..-> http://www.ready.gov/get_a_kit.html)
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To: B4Ranch

I DON'T!!!!!


38 posted on 06/21/2004 5:59:56 PM PDT by rintense (Screw justice. I want revenge.)
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To: John Lenin
well for goodness sake! With my Sunday morning coffee, I get to read something interesting, almost provocative. Thanks John, for posting this one, that if true, would have the DNC slitting their wrists!

Hillary would love the news! McCain out of the senate, not stealing the senate spotlight, and we can assume he would not run for president in 2008 as her rival, because of his cancer history, senate corruption history, and age.

Of course we know John McCain isn't about to give up his carefully cultivated position as super-star senator, bold renegade, nor climb down from his spotlighted senate pedestal, erected by an adoring press corps. The vice presidency for John McCain would be his personal hell, 4 years in another kind of prison, it's just not gonna happen.

(Keeping control of the senate is important too. Bush couldn't afford to take an (R) Vote out.)

But a fun read!

39 posted on 06/27/2004 6:26:24 AM PDT by YaYa123 (@"Corruption"...thy name is Clinton.com)
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To: meandog

McCain removed himself from the "darling of the GOP" category. And.....the last time that people like you turned on a Bush, we ended up with the Clintons for 8+ years. Thanks for nothing. It looks like you will stay home, vote Third Party, or vote Democrat in November. Which will it be?


40 posted on 06/27/2004 6:41:39 AM PDT by Consort
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