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The greening of UCI-U of Calif Muslim students & indiscriminate murder of men, women, children
Jewsweek ^ | 6-22-04 | Avi Davis

Posted on 06/22/2004 7:28:49 AM PDT by SJackson

Univ. of California Muslim students demonstrate for an organization which promotes the indiscriminate murder of men, women and children.


A CALL TO ARMS: Members of the Al Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, a militia loosely linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement, wear mock suicide bomber belts as they march along the streets of Nablus during a rally in honor of militants of the organization who died during the Intifadah, or uprising, in Old City of Nablus Friday Oct. 24 2003.

Graduation at the University of California, Irvine comes in many colors. One of them is green and on Saturday, June 19, at UCI's commencement ceremony, graduating members of the university's Muslim Student Union and Society of Arab Students will be wearing arm bands in that color to demonstrate their support for a terrorist organization.

Green, as most Muslim students at Irvine are aware, is the symbolic color of Islam but also used by the outlawed terrorist organization Hamas. It is the color of that organization's flag, appears prominently in all their literature and embroiders their Web site at www.hamasonline.org. If a green arm band was all that the students chose to wear on their arms as they accepted their diplomas, there would be few objections. Yet these two organizations, determined to leave no doubt of their sympathies, have taken their green symbolism one defiant step further. According to a letter sent by MSU board member Jazakhallah Kair to all graduating Muslims, the word shehada (martyrdom) will be printed on one side of the arm band and a verse in Arabic on the other. Shehada is the term regularly used by Hamas terrorists in Gaza to describe suicide bombings in Israel.

Hamas is listed by more than 100 countries as a terrorist organization. Its assets in the United States have been frozen, its fundraising organizations outlawed and, its leading operatives in the United States jailed or closely monitored by the FBI.

So what is the University of California at Irvine doing about this flagrant demonstration of support for an organization which promotes the indiscriminate murder of men, women, and children?

Nothing.

In fact, Manuel Gomez, Vice Chancellor of Student Affairs at UCI has defended the Muslim students' rights to express themselves in the way they wish. "When I receive pleas and letters to shut down student demonstrations on the campus, I continuously defend our community," Gomez has said." It is during times like this that we all put aside our political differences to respect the liberties of free expression without intimidation."

Free expression? One can wonder how much free expression it takes to nudge UCI's administration into accepting that valued democratic rights, when unmonitored, can also be used against a democracy, making a mockery of the very freedoms they so strenuously endorse. Consider some of the following MSU/SAS's "free expression" activities of the past few years:

Posters were distributed around campus equating the Star of David with the Nazi swastika.

On February 26, 2004 an MSU presenter spoke on the topic America Under Seige: The Zionist Hidden Agenda, reintroducing the century old canard that Jews control the media and manufacture international conflict to serve their own ends.

On May 26, 2004 SAS brought to campus radical cleric Imam Mohammed al Asi who claimed that "the average person is falling victim to equating terror with divine revelation and scripture," implying that the terrorist tactics of organizations such as Hamas and Islamic Jihad can be excused because they are divinely inspired.

On June 10, 2004 MSU brought to campus, as part of its Zionist Awareness Week Amir Abdel Malik Ali who is an open and vocal supporter of Hamas. He called for an Islamic revolution in America led by the "white college students, who will bring their parents to Islam." His attack was not merely against America but western civilization as well.

In February 2002, UC Irvine's MSU newspaper, Alkalima, published a special report entitled "Zionism: The Forgotten Apartheid." The authors explained the reasoning behind this report: "As the Zionists continue to colonize, torture, and ethnically-cleanse in the name of the 'peace process' and the Americans continue to fund them, the respective staffs of Al-Talib and Alkalima feel it to be their basic duty to expose Zionism, its evils and its effects ... Zionist-controlled world media has been purposefully distorting and misconstruing world events too long." The report has a section devoted to "the resistance movements against Zionist aggression," Hamas and Hizbollah, which are lauded as heroes fighting Israeli occupation.

Today more than 150 MSU chapters exist on American college campuses, which makes it the most extensive Muslim student organization in the country. Clearly if students in such campuses across the United States are allowed to follow UCI's example, there is little to stop other causes -- conservative, liberal or radical -- from using their university's platform to announce racial or political views that are tantamount to incitement.

The ability to have open debates on any subject and to speak one's mind without fear of intimidation are essential rights in any free, democratic society. Yet when freedom of speech crosses the line into incitement, all institutions -- whether they be corporations, non-profit organizations or academic institutions, have a duty to stand firm. Under no circumstances should First Amendment protections be used to shield hate speech. Under no conditions is it acceptable for those professing to uphold democratic concepts such as tolerance, pluralism, and open debate be permitted to employ those same concepts to propagate the ideology of murderers or the politics of hatred.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: muslimamericans

1 posted on 06/22/2004 7:28:50 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Kinda like their version of 'Hands Across America".


2 posted on 06/22/2004 7:31:14 AM PDT by mlbford2 (Sorry for spelling errors, I'm a product of a state university)
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.


3 posted on 06/22/2004 7:31:44 AM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: SJackson; StriperSniper; Mo1; Howlin
Other students should have worn an American flag on their right arm and a Israeli flag on their left.
4 posted on 06/22/2004 7:31:46 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: SJackson

Better to know who they are. Take pictures and take names.


5 posted on 06/22/2004 7:38:38 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: SJackson

Anyone know where I can get green toilet paper?


6 posted on 06/22/2004 7:47:21 AM PDT by Skooz (My Biography: Psalm 40:1-3)
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To: SJackson
Title: Palestinians Clash With Israeli Troops Over West Bank Separation Fence
Subject: News, Unrest, Conflicts and War
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Palestinians Clash With Israeli Troops Over West Bank Separation Fence
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AZ-ZAWIYA, WEST BANK - JUNE 22: A Palestinian man wearing a model of the Dome of the Rock Islamic shrine suffers from tear gas fired at protestors by Israeli troops during violent clashes over Israel's separation fence, on June 22, 2004 at the village of Az-Zawiya, West Bank. Their village is one of three in the central West Bank where near-daily demonstrations are taking place over Israel's controversial barrier being built on Palestinian land. (Photo by David Silverman/Getty Images)

7 posted on 06/22/2004 9:06:40 AM PDT by dennisw ("Allah FUBAR!")
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To: SJackson
If I ever encounter anyone wearing what appears to be a "suicide bomb" or "explosives belt", they're going to get shot dead immediately. I will not risk my life, or the lives of my loved ones on the chance they might have just been "protesters" in costume.
8 posted on 06/22/2004 9:24:58 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: SJackson
Univ. of California Muslim students demonstrate for an organization which promotes the indiscriminate murder of men, women and children.

When/if engaging with these creeps -- or mewling, leftist fellow travelors -- never fail to emphasize that this includes Palestinians. Fully 1/5 of those Palestinians that have died in the "Al Aqsa Intifada" (Olso War) have been murdered by fellow Palestinians from Arafat's Palestinian Authority or other "armed groups" including Hamas.

9 posted on 06/22/2004 5:52:09 PM PDT by Stultis
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To: 10mm
If I ever encounter anyone wearing what appears to be a "suicide bomb" or "explosives belt", they're going to get shot dead immediately. I will not risk my life, or the lives of my loved ones on the chance they might have just been "protesters" in costume.

I can't disagree, it's not much different than pulling a water pistol on a LEO. Except of course if it's not a bomb, you or I will go to jail.

10 posted on 06/22/2004 6:59:43 PM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: dennisw
OK, explain the photo to me.

They both have something up their noses.

The guy on the right is wearing a bong on his head.

Did afternoon prayers just let out? I've heard that's a dangerous time, late pm hash and all.

11 posted on 06/22/2004 7:03:54 PM PDT by SJackson (They're not Americans. They're just journalists, Col George Connell, USMC)
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To: mlbford2

I would never trust them saying these are mock suicide kits. Their problem was that only their own people and supporters were present, so detonation would have been a blessing not a terrorist attack.


12 posted on 06/22/2004 8:10:49 PM PDT by lobo59 (E)
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To: SJackson
I can't disagree, it's not much different than pulling a water pistol on a LEO. Except of course if it's not a bomb, you or I will go to jail.

I'm no lawyer, but I wonder if the 'I was in fear for my life' argument would work as in self-defense cases.

14 posted on 06/22/2004 11:15:41 PM PDT by Looking4Truth (NEVER trust Muslims to keep their word.)
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To: SJackson

bttt


15 posted on 06/22/2004 11:36:11 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: SJackson

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Monday, June 28, 2004
Understanding Muslims for Dummies


If any of you've been following the Muslim graduation stoles controversy at UC Irvine, here is an interesting commentary from alt.muslim:

Warping The Truth: The Panic Over Muslim Graduation Stoles

You'd think that after years of all-Islam, all-the-time news reporting, of people studying Islam both formally and informally, and so many self-styled "Islam experts" plying the radio and TV talk shows, that critics of Islam would know at least the basics about the religion. This week's "controversy" over Muslim graduation stoles at the University of California, Irvine reveals how fear can warp the truth, even when people who make a living watching Muslims are involved. Seems that some Jewish students were upset about the green, Arabic-covered stoles, finding too much of a similarity between them and green headbands Hamas militants use. It's understandable, I suppose, since the students in question can't read Arabic and their only exposure to Arabic written on green cloth (the shahada, or Muslim declaration of faith, was printed on one side of the stole; the other said "Oh, God, increase my knowledge") was what they see on their TV screens. (Muslim students could have made the same complaint about stars of David, which are plastered on Israeli army tanks & warplanes, but they're smart enough to make the distinction between politics and religion.) What is baffling, though, is that nearly every news outlet said that the word "shahada" was on the stoles (it wasn't - the phrase "There is no god but Allah, and Muhammad is His messenger" that makes up the shahada was) and that the American Jewish Congress said that the word "shahada" that they think is on the stole translated to "suicide bomber". The AJC also called the shahada an "expression of hate" that was a "demonstration in favor of terrorists". Thankfully, UC Irvine officials backed the 20 Muslim students who wore the stoles without incident at their commencement ceremonies, and plan to in the future. "Students wore it at last year's graduation, too," said UC Irvine Muslim Student Union president Osman Umarji. "No one even noticed it." Well, they have now - and they want all Muslims to drop the most basic declaration of their faith because some terrorists have been filmed abusing it.

I have to agree that this incident really shows how little understanding there is of Islam and Muslims among most Americans. Okay, we can't really expect all Americans to know what the shahada is, but certainly those media institutions and scholars who have been reporting about Muslims for so long should have some idea. It is amazing how many people there are in America who think they know Islam and speak with authority about it without ever having lived in the Muslim world for any significant amount of time. If you listen to what these self-styled scholars have to say it becomes obvious that they really do not understand the differences between Islam, Muslims, Islamism or Islamic fundamentalism.

And their tendency to confuse the terms Islam and Muslim goes deeper than just semantics. They seem to believe that Muslims are mere Islamic robots. Thus they think that by reading all of the Islamic scriptures (Quran, Hadith, etc.) they will be able to understand Muslims; as though Muslims have no cares other than abiding by the scriptures; as though Islam is nothing more than a collection of words written on parchment 1400 years ago.

The first thing that needs to be acknowledged is that being 'Muslim' is not the only identity carried by Muslims. Muslims are not only Muslims, but are also parents, siblings, children, employees, bosses, friends, politicians, citizens, and above all, human beings. They have interests that go beyond their Muslims identities, and may therefore be driven to do things for reasons other than Islam. Although Osama bin Laden claims to be doing everything for the sake of Allah, let's be serious. I'm sure he has his personal interests to care about, his family, his friends, his money, his comfort. And being in the position that he is, he also has to be somewhat of a politician, compromising his Islamic values for other reasons. This is why we can't try to understand his actions just by reading the Quran and the Prophetic traditions. Nor can we undersand his actions just by listening to his rhetoric. We have to understand who he is, his culture, his interests, his history. These are the things that make up a human being; not merely words written on parchment centuries ago.

And this applies to all Muslims in general... not just the terrorist kind. To be able to understand Muslims we have to learn about their culture (not just "Islamic culture" if such a thing exists). We have to understand how Muslims interpret symbols, icons and rhetoric that are used. In the case of the shahada we need to know the significance of this phrase to Muslims, and not just what it means for Hamas. Only then can we begin to make a judgement on whether its use constitutes malicious intent or not.

The second thing that must be understood is that Islam is not just a bunch of texts. As I've said before, we can't reduce it down to just a collection of words written on parchment 1400 years ago. May of these American self-styled scholars of Islam will claim that they "know Islam even better than many Muslims" because they can quote verses from the Quran and from Tabari and Ishaq, which many Muslims may not have even heard of. But we must recognize that Islam is a living religion; it is made up of human beings, not texts. There is very much an oral tradition among Muslims with information being passed on from generation to generation, from master to disciple, from parent to child, from friend to friend. Sometimes this information is not passed down through words, but through experiences, and without either of the parties even being aware of it, it enters their psyche. It is these things which determine, among other things, how the words of the texts are interpreted in to everyday life; for words are merely words and can be interpreted in any way one sees fit. Learning just the texts alone is not nearly enough to be able to understand what Islam is about.

To really understand what Muslims are, there is NO substitute for living among Muslims, observing them and interacting with them. Learning their history, their culture, their personal lives, their philosophies. Understanding what it is that makes them tick, and how they interpret social action. Judging for yourself whether these people are of the human species that the rest of us belong to, or whether they are a different beast altogether. But until they are able to do this, these so-called American scholars who have never lived among Muslims should speak with humility. By all means they should read whatever they can and make known their opinions. But they should be aware (and also make their audience aware) of the fact that their source of knowledge is limited to a few years of learning the texts, which is not nearly enough to understand how the Muslim mind thinks. And they should also refrain from casting their image of a Muslim upon all Muslims. Very often I read a pseudo-scholar saying something like "those Muslims aren't abiding by such and such verse of the Quran, therefore they are not behaving like real Muslims." The implication of such a statement is that their (i.e. the pseudo-scholar's) interpretation of that verse, and their interpretation of what a real Muslim is is the only interpretation.

My problem here is not that Americans do not know enough about Muslims, but that today many Americans speak with an authority of the subject which is not deserved. Prior to 9/11 when I would get in to a discussion with an American about Islam they would humbly admit that they do not know enough to be able to pass judgement, and would kindly ask me if I might share whatever I may know. In the aftermath of the 9/11 disaster, it seems that many Americans, understandably, feel the need to learn about Islam as soon as possible whatever source is available. All of a sudden I'm finding that more and more people who knew nothing about Muslims just three years ago passing all sorts of judgements in the media, without making it explicitly known their level of interaction with Muslims themselves.

Certainly, the Muslim world has suffered from the same problem for much longer. It is all too common to hear Muslim politicians, religious leaders and pseudo-scholars passing judgements about America based on CNN, Hollywood, and internet rumours, without ever having met an American. For example, when GW Bush used the word "crusade" in describing the War on Terrorism, all of the Muslim world jumped on it, claiming it as evidence that the war was fuelled by religion. But of course, anyone who really understands the English language in its modern-day context will know that the word crusade does not necessarily carry the same religious connotations it did in the past. While Muslims, more than anyone, need to overcome this "know-it-all" attitude, the reason I am so disturbed about it appearing in the American media is because I never though it would reach such levels. When reading some American news sources I am reminded of exactly the same style of arguments that I'm so familiar with here in the Muslim world, where people who have no idea of what they're talking about are (unknowingly) fooling themselves and others with their false authority.

Just an example of the extent of this is the whole graduation stole issue that I started off this post about. Asides from the fact that none of the media sources have any idea of what the "shahada" is, if you read the Jewsweek article about the controversy, they state:
According to a letter sent by MSU board member Jazakhallah Kair to all graduating Muslims...
Haha, really this is too much. If you're an Arabic speaker reading this, then I'm sure you're rolling on the floor in laughter. Because "Jazakallah Khair" is not a very common Muslim name. It is an Arabic phrase meaning "May God reward you well" which is very commonly used by Muslims. What must have happened is that the MSU board member who actually sent the original e-mail must have used this phrase while "signing out" (which is very common). The writer of the Jewsweek article probably got a hold of the e-mail somehow and just assumed that the MSU member's name is "Jazakhallah Kair". Hahaha. Although it is hilarious, it does illustrate the sad state of affairs, that there are so many people who are writing with authority, but so few of them have a real grasp of the subject.


16 posted on 06/28/2004 7:57:45 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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