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To: ma bell

The difference I care about can be seen in the difference in what happened in Fallujah and what happened in the Holy Cities in the South. The Army succeeded and the Marines did not.


2 posted on 06/24/2004 7:43:00 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: RobbyS

The Mariens have a better song to.


12 posted on 06/24/2004 7:53:03 AM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: RobbyS
The Army hasn't succeeded yet.
Even though The Marines could have, they chose not to level Fallujah. The Marine Corps chose an option other than violence. They demonstrated the wisdom not to send its troops into a situation where to control the city they would have to kill thousands of civilians.
17 posted on 06/24/2004 7:56:10 AM PDT by quadrant
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To: RobbyS

That is why the Marines took over for the Army... Differant approach with differant breed of fighting men.


22 posted on 06/24/2004 7:58:15 AM PDT by ma bell (Srebrenica! Squawk- where, oh where is RBJoe today, where oh where?)
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To: RobbyS
The difference I care about can be seen in the difference in what happened in Fallujah and what happened in the Holy Cities in the South

The Army, through the 82nd, 3ID and 1st Cav "controlled" Fallujah from April 2003 to March 20, 2004. The cities of the Shi'ite South ... Nasariyah, Kut, Najaf, Samanwah, Karbala and Basra ... were pacified by the Marines and Royal Marines.

Other than that, you're really accurate.

52 posted on 06/24/2004 8:28:28 AM PDT by StumpyPete
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To: RobbyS

As a former Army combat infantry man (164th CAG Can Tho, RVN) I object to any catch all comparison between the Army and Marines. The Marines are elite troops, but they are the Shock Troop element of the Navy. The Army has equally elite Shock Troop elements. Comparing the Marines to the entire Army is a fair as comparing them to the entire Navy.


92 posted on 06/24/2004 9:01:18 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: RobbyS

You're right. The valiant 82nd Airborne operated around for Fallujah for months and suffered only three KIA.

Of course, they RARELY ever went into the city and mostly sat on their ass, but they were very successful in avoiding casualties. That is very important indeed.


187 posted on 06/24/2004 11:41:36 AM PDT by IGOTMINE ("By God, I pity those poor bastards we're going up against. By God I do.")
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To: RobbyS

"The Army succeeded and the Marines did not."

BS, friend. My cousin was badly wounded in the
second battle of Fallujah, and my son was in
Ramadi at the time of the first election.

They told me the difference between Marine
and Army doctrine is this: the Marines engage
immediately. The Army is trained to withdraw
and wait for support. My son was called on to
rescue the Army units a lot. AND, the Army
couldn't even get the Marine's meals to them
because the Army thought the area was too hot.

Don't be telling OUR family about the effectiveness
of the Army.

(I have not served. My tagline honors my son and my cousin.)


300 posted on 01/02/2006 1:30:22 PM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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