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CBS News Poll: Bush 44, Kerry 45
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Posted on 06/28/2004 4:37:47 PM PDT by RW1974

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To: Puppage

All the lefty polls that I've seen lately have been weighted 8% to 30% MORE Dims than R's. I guess they think that they need all the help they can get.


41 posted on 06/28/2004 5:00:28 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: EGPWS
I'd like to believe that, but again, I'm convinced the Dems spend as much time/money on election theft as they do the actual campaign.

Therefore, I have this "black cloud" hanging over my head regarding any Republican candidate's chances.

If you're a football fan (and, somehow, I think you are), look at it this way: I'm spotting the Dems five points, and I view the Republicans as the Minnesota Vikings of politics.

42 posted on 06/28/2004 5:01:53 PM PDT by daler
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To: AndyTheBear

Exactly, they will manipulate the polls more and more in favor of Bush as the election grows closer, so that it appears that people changed their minds in favor of Bush as the election neared, and not that they had fudged the numbers all along.


43 posted on 06/28/2004 5:02:28 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: RW1974
This is my first time posting an article - hope I've done everything correctly.

I don't think you needed the quotation marks.

44 posted on 06/28/2004 5:02:45 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: RightthinkinAmerican
All the lefty polls that I've seen lately have been weighted 8% to 30% MORE Dims than R's

30% ?!? What poll was that?

45 posted on 06/28/2004 5:04:13 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: Plutarch

Okay, I'll leave them out next time. Thanks for the feedback.


46 posted on 06/28/2004 5:04:33 PM PDT by RW1974
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To: A CA Guy

Agreed that the polls drag Bush's real numbers down. I've always felt that the margin was 3-5% that the media gave to the dems.


47 posted on 06/28/2004 5:05:13 PM PDT by Thebaddog (Woof!)
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To: daler

They might steal one close state, but it won't be enough. Any more than a little cheating WILL be challenged this time. I think Cheney's outburst, Bush's latest ad calling the Dims to account for Nazi comparisons, and Bush's cancellation of the Irish interview with the first lady after the reporter was rude to Dubya both show that they're not going to take it any more. We have finally had enough and are ready to fight back. No more eating Dim's crap and grinning.


48 posted on 06/28/2004 5:06:19 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: RightthinkinAmerican

I wonder if the poll also reflects the 110% turnout among blacks in Philadelphia in 2000? I mean, for a poll to be accurate, doesn't it's methodology have to reflect actual voting patterns? (/sarcasm)


49 posted on 06/28/2004 5:08:16 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: RW1974

Let me guess they polled in downtown San Francisco.


50 posted on 06/28/2004 5:10:16 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: Steven W.
That breaks down to lots of liberals who won't vote being included in the samples

I wonder if it also includes the 0.003% of people who won't vote because Bush isn't "conservative enough"?

51 posted on 06/28/2004 5:12:22 PM PDT by My2Cents ("Well.....there you go again.")
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To: RW1974
See BS. There were probably 60% dems in the sample.

Nice 1st post BTW....

52 posted on 06/28/2004 5:15:07 PM PDT by b4its2late (John Kerry changes positions more often than a Nevada prostitute!!!)
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To: AndyTheBear
The LA Times one was at least that. What I mean are 30% more Dims than R's. The R's were in the low 20 some percent, the D's were over 30%. Around 10% difference between the two in the numbers of them in the poll, but relulting in over 30% more Dems than Repubs. For instance if 10% in the poll were Repubs, and 15% Dems, I would be calling this a 50% heavy weighting for the Dems. There would be 50% MORE Dems in the poll than Repubs. I didn't mean to mislead that it was 50% D's in those polled, and 20% R's, but was referring to to difference in the D and R percent in the poll.

I've seen several more that were like 8% more (say 21% R and 29% D) which is also about 30% MORE D's than R's. Sorry I don't remember the actual poll numbers, but it's here on FR.

53 posted on 06/28/2004 5:15:09 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: My2Cents

I wonder why this didn't make the news? </sarcasm>


54 posted on 06/28/2004 5:17:14 PM PDT by RightthinkinAmerican (Democrats aren't playing with a full deck, they only use the race cards.)
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To: RW1974

A Bush landslide is brewing. Only Hillary can make this thing close. But even she cannot make it close enough. With the strong economy (despite Kerry's Depression scenario) and with the war going well (in spite of Democrats practically cheering for American failure), this election is going to be a huge victory for President Bush.


55 posted on 06/28/2004 5:20:38 PM PDT by catpuppy (John Kerry! When hair is all that matters)
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To: RW1974

It’s looking better, and I hope the trend continues - but I won’t relax until I see Bush with a least a 20% lead on the 3rd of November.


56 posted on 06/28/2004 5:21:55 PM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: daler
If you're a football fan (and, somehow, I think you are), look at it this way: I'm spotting the Dems five points, and I view the Republicans as the Minnesota Vikings of politics.

Minnesota Vikings?

Your pessimism is VERY concerning! ; )

Dubya will be the next President, however my confidence is also augmented by a firm conviction to continue to promote his agenda when need be and to not lose myself to complacency to the point of not voting!

The brighter side being that "Black Cloud" has a definite ring to it!!! : )

Even on a cloudy day, the Dem's haven't given a reason for change.

The Dem's are not going to oust Dubya by trying to paint over a sunny day, and every time they try, it winds up blindsiding them.

Unless of course you are a Michael Moore fan.....

57 posted on 06/28/2004 5:23:18 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: RW1974

Don't you just love the way this typical CBS push poll starts out with its first sentence?

"Despite concerns about his handling of Iraq, and an overall approval rating of 42%, George W. Bush is still running neck and neck with Democrat John Kerry as the choice of registered voters."

Why didn't they just say, "Despite being an evil, incompetent, unpopular president who stole the election from Al Gore, George W. Bush is still running neck and neck. . . ."


58 posted on 06/28/2004 5:23:34 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: catpuppy

I hope you're right. I think W is going to win, but it could be pretty close. The Bush campaign needs to get aggressive in the fall and fully expose Kerry's record - then maybe we'll get a really solid victory.

By the way folks, one of the most important and historically accurate predictors will be coming up soon: 2nd quarter GDP growth. Itshould be released in late July.

The way it works is that if 2nd quarter GDP growth in an election year exceeds 2.6% then the incumbent party will win a majority of the popular vote (which almost always means an Electoral College victory too). This predictor has been correct every time since 1952, with the exception of 1968 when Humphrey very narrowly lost to Nixon. GDP growth is pretty assured to be above 2.6% this 2nd quarter, so hopefully this predictor will be right yet again.


59 posted on 06/28/2004 5:29:05 PM PDT by RW1974
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CBS radio all day today when they had their news come on at the top of every hour started off with the Supreme Court decision on enemy terrorists and how it was a negative for Bush,, then they tossed in the little story afterwards of Iraq getting their country back,,,


60 posted on 06/28/2004 5:30:05 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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