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New Risks Tied to Hormone Therapy
NY Times ^ | June 29, 2004 | NA

Posted on 06/28/2004 8:02:12 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON, June 28 (Reuters) - Hormone replacement therapy may be especially dangerous for older women with diabetes, researchers said Monday.

A group of doctors led by Barbara Howard, president of MedStar Research Institute in Washington, studied 423 women past menopause who had atherosclerosis, a hardening of the arteries.

The women who had abnormal glucose tolerance - meaning that they had diabetes or a precursor - and who took hormones had changes in their blood suggesting they had a higher risk of heart disease, Dr. Howard's team reported in the American Heart Association journal Circulation.

The study was based on an analysis of the Women's Health Initiative, the large continuing study that found two years ago that hormone replacement raised the risk of heart disease, stroke and some forms of cancer in postmenopausal women.

"People once thought that hormone therapy could prevent heart disease in women, especially in women with diabetes, who have an increased risk," Dr. Howard said. "But this study provides evidence that hormone therapy should not be used to reduce cardiovascular disease risk in women with diabetes or pre-diabetes."

Despite such findings, many experts say hormone replacement can be safe and useful for short-term relief of some of the debilitating symptoms of menopause. And in another report, published in the June issue of Fertility and Sterility, doctors said younger women just entering menopause might be at risk of heart disease from the treatment.

Dr. Frederick Naftolin of Yale University and his colleagues noted that few women in their 40's and early 50's took part in the Women's Health Initiative.

Dr. Marian Damewood, president of the American Society for Reproductive Medicine, which publishes the journal, agreed, saying, "The effects of hormone therapy on the health of a woman in her 40's just beginning the menopausal transition will be different from its effects on a woman 15 years older."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aha; circulation; diabetes; health; hormones; hrt; medicine; whi; women

1 posted on 06/28/2004 8:02:12 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: fourdeuce82d; El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; farmfriend; ...

PING


2 posted on 06/28/2004 8:03:39 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

They should take this off the market. Not day goes by when I have a customer complaining about HRT. There's a DO nearby that does natural HRT and the one customer that went raves about it.


3 posted on 06/28/2004 8:05:45 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg

Natural HRT? Please explain.....


4 posted on 06/28/2004 8:19:51 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Pres. Reagan "Republicans think every day is the 4th of July; Dems think every day is April 15th.")
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To: cyborg
There's a DO nearby that does natural HRT and the one customer that went raves about it.

Does the doc compound herbs? What goes into it?

5 posted on 06/28/2004 8:25:45 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: neverdem

http://womensissues.about.com/library/weekly/aa080202a.htm

and there's a wild yam extract that is by prescription only too. I believe that's what the article above is talking about. The DO's name is Christopher Calapai. Pretty interesting stuff in plant pharmacology.


6 posted on 06/28/2004 8:29:51 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: goodnesswins

They are bioidentical hormones. I currently am on progesterone and it has saved my life. I had headaches, muscle tingling, back pain, terrible PMS, insomnia, depression....etc. I finally found a doctor that figured out what was wrong with me and it truly cured me.

I don't know if posting the link to his practice website would violate Freeping rules, but if you would like it, let me know.


7 posted on 06/28/2004 8:30:13 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: goodnesswins

see my post #6

I'm not a doctor by any means. I just do a lot of reading working in a health food store. There are more MD's using bioidentical hormones but DOs are really at the forefront of the movement. My mother was taking HRT and stopped. Now she just takes herbs but for the ladies with extreme cases I think asking one's doctor about it is good.


8 posted on 06/28/2004 8:33:12 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg

Thanks. My problems are minimal, probably because I've eaten a lot of soy based food for 10 years, but was wondering....I too STUDY health "foods and herbs."


9 posted on 06/28/2004 8:35:02 PM PDT by goodnesswins (Pres. Reagan "Republicans think every day is the 4th of July; Dems think every day is April 15th.")
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To: goodnesswins

I've decided to go back to school and study it professionally. There's a lot of good things that can be done with certain foods and herbs. Soy is good. Some of my customers are allergic to soy but eat other things like yams and the like.


10 posted on 06/28/2004 8:37:58 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Aggie Mama

Here's the link to my doctor's website. There's a lot of good backround info that I thought might be helpful.

http://www.hotzehealth-wellness.com/


11 posted on 06/28/2004 8:43:50 PM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: neverdem

Thanks. I never did feel taking hormones was safe and haven't very much. Good thing. As you know, I am diabetic. Sometimes, it pays to listen to gut feelings.


12 posted on 06/28/2004 9:00:05 PM PDT by JudyB1938 (I am not paranoid. I have "rational fear".)
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To: goodnesswins; neverdem
You may want to start here:
http://www.lef.org/protocols/prtcl-133.shtml

Website has lots of results of research and the organization is on the cutting edge of all this and has been for years.

They also sell the very highest grades of natural remedies, supplements, etc. which are always less harmful and usually just as effective or moreso than the prescriptive answers so often given.

Please look into the various articles in their archives from their monthly magazine, etc. to bring yourselves up to date on what has been/is being done in the research labs, etc.

Be certain to look up the list and bios of the medical people on their boards.

These people are also reliable and you will need to investigate the web site as well:
http://www.life-enhancement.com/category.asp?SID=1&id=15
13 posted on 06/28/2004 9:29:21 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: cyborg

Thanks for the link. Bookmarked


14 posted on 06/28/2004 9:30:09 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: Aggie Mama; Spirited

Thanks for the links.


15 posted on 06/28/2004 9:38:35 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: cyborg
I've decided to go back to school and study it professionally.

Good for you. I understand that some homeopathic medicine has been hijacked by snake oil salesmen but some of it is underestimated and needs to be studied. After all, humans have used this form of medicine for 30,000 years and we've made it this far.

I had the opportunity to discuss the past's pharmacology with a historical medical expert from Williamsburg. It was fascinating.

16 posted on 06/28/2004 9:39:49 PM PDT by lizma
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To: lizma

Regarding historical pharmacology, I am working on getting a copy of the United States Dispensatory. There are snakeoil salesman and as such I do my best to educate myself for my customer's sakes. My sole piece of advice is to not buy anything over the radio but ask me first because I always find something cheaper and better quality. Plus I cross check with drug references,etc.

If you like to read, get 'Back to Eden' by Jethro Kloss.


17 posted on 06/28/2004 9:43:10 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: cyborg
There was a Dr on a thread just a few days ago, talking about needing always to take women's ovaries during a hysterectomy so that cancer isn't a concern. He was so blithe with his comment about just replacing the hormones with HRT. I was furious!

I just turned 35 but have been having problems for awhile. Last year I found out that my testosterone is quite low, as is my estrogen. I smoke so Dr's will do nothing for me (one Dr recommended birth control pills).

I would like more information, but even a women's center Dr was totally unsympathetic. I don't have a clue what to do at this point.

18 posted on 06/28/2004 9:46:42 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Dianna

I have some ideas that I'll freepmail to you.


19 posted on 06/28/2004 9:48:50 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: neverdem

Aw-oh, I guess we will have to put the women that are on hormone therapy on the ATKINS diet. That would solve the diabetes problem.


20 posted on 06/28/2004 9:51:21 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


21 posted on 06/28/2004 9:52:32 PM PDT by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 42% of americans)
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To: Aggie Mama

I read your doc's website - impressive, but $3000 for a consult / physical evaluation? Does insurance usually cover it?


22 posted on 06/28/2004 9:57:39 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: lizma

We've used homeopathy for years, with an MD who studied in homeopathic hospitals in Europe. Given all the problems with things like HRT, the rise in chronic and incurable diseases, and the proliferation of antibiotic-resistant germs, homeopathy is a genuine medical alternative.


23 posted on 06/28/2004 9:59:49 PM PDT by valkyrieanne
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To: cyborg

It would be helpful if they included the types of HRT they used and found hurtful!!

There is HRT and there is HRT.

My Doc, a DO, has had me a low dose Estrogen and Testerosterone, and the latter has greatly helped me with serious life issues that could have resulted in depression but for the chemical help from the testerosterone. It also helps with other issues but I'm not going into them here. Oprah has covered the topic, thoroughly and frequently.


24 posted on 06/28/2004 10:05:34 PM PDT by TruthNtegrity (We must all work hard to insure Pres. Bush's re-election by a landslide!)
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To: cyborg
United States Dispensatory.

What's that?

Never mind. I googled it. That looks like a great idea. It's amazing how much they knew back then. Have fun. Think I'll check it out further when I have the time.

25 posted on 06/28/2004 10:06:46 PM PDT by lizma
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To: TruthNtegrity

I find that always happens in articles like these, not mentioning specific HRT names. But oh well...you're right. There are different HRTs and you're not the first I've heard to have success with it.


26 posted on 06/28/2004 10:08:33 PM PDT by cyborg
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To: Froggie
Are you still encouraging women to just get their ovaries yanked?

Quote from you: As a non-gyn, I try to convince my patients that if they need a hysterectomy, they should have the ovaries removed, as in all liklihood, the only thing they will accomplish in the future is bad for their health. The hormones the ovaries produce can be replaced for the necessary duration to treat the menopausal symptoms that will occur after removing functional ovaries...

27 posted on 06/28/2004 10:19:39 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: valkyrieanne
the rise in chronic and incurable diseases,

I think some of this is from people living longer.

As far as the proliferation of antibiotic-resistant germs, doctors and lawyers are to blame. Too often docs have prescribed antibiotic to legally CYA.

I for one is not yet willing to jump on the homeopathic band wagon but it really needs to be studied. There is a lot of potential out there that shouldn't be dismissed.

28 posted on 06/28/2004 10:20:46 PM PDT by lizma
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To: Aggie Mama

BTTT


29 posted on 06/28/2004 11:16:38 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: neverdem

Interesting article. Thanks!


30 posted on 06/28/2004 11:17:04 PM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: valkyrieanne

Ours covered it as an out-of-network type of transaction. They will not deal with insurance companies directly b/c they don't like the interference from them.

We paid for it out of pocket (yeah credit card) and got back about 2/3 of it from our insurance company.

They do a tremendous amount of blood workup on you, physical exam, and a very detailed physical history. I think I spent 45 min. on the phone with one of their nurses going over my medical history (and I don't have that much to talk about, I'm only 33).

I know they send out their videos for free and those are supposed to have good info.


31 posted on 06/29/2004 5:31:40 AM PDT by Aggie Mama
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To: Dianna

Not for frivilous reasons -- but if tney are having a hysterectomy - then yes, I advise the ovaries come along also......some gyn's disagree of course....but in my opinion the only thing those ovaries are going to do that can't be replaced by hormone replacement is cause trouble...trouble with a capital "C".


32 posted on 06/29/2004 1:16:56 PM PDT by Froggie
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To: neverdem

I have my ovaries removed in my 20's. I have to be on some form of hormone replacement. It took years finding doc's who understood the difference between menopause and surgical castration.

My compounded combo is a mix of plant based estrogen, progestrone and a smidge of testosterone.

Tried going off of it and I for the sake of humanity I went back on them.


33 posted on 06/29/2004 1:22:42 PM PDT by najida (Who said I could spell? My fingers are faster than my brain.)
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