Posted on 06/29/2004 6:01:46 AM PDT by Undertow
That is one of the single most stupid posts on FR. The First Amendment only applies to government censorship.
CFR and "Hush Rush" bill are examples of First Amendment violations--the left trying to squelch the right through lawmaking.
If they decided to protest Limbaugh en masse, or boycott his sponsors, I wouldn't have a problem with it. I'd fight back.
Can you name one single instance of where government force or laws were used to prevent Moore's films from playing?
All Micheal is saying is that the Law has no place in shutting Moore up. While conservatives could use this power for good to get rid of the communists in our midst, conservatives will not be in power forever. This power WILL eventually be in the hands of our political enemies.
Imagine President Hillary with the power to shut down media she doesn't like under CFR related court rulings...
Finish your coffee before putting your foot in your mouth again...
Bush will lose tons of votes if the FEC decides to rule that Moore's film can't be played. In any case I haven't read ANY articles besides this Leftertarian that says that Bush is trying to squelch it--the media would be trumpeting censorship 24/7 if it was true. This is just another excuse for the big-L party to bash Bush.
Democrats and Republicans passed their so-called campaign finance reform law," says Badnarik, who was nominated by the party on May 30. "The attempt to gag Michael Moore demonstrates that McCain-Feingold was just an excuse to outlaw political criticism."
The Federal Election Commission (FEC) is considering whether advertising for Moore's controversial new documentary, which is sharply critical of President Bush, can be banned as "electioneering communications." Under McCain-Feingold, corporate-paid radio or TV ads that identify a federal candidate are illegal to broadcast within 30 days of a primary or 60 days of a general election.
What the heck is CFR if it is not "government censorship"?
If you want to criticize Libertarians, try reading the article first, then come back when you have an informed opinion.
LP continues its slide into lunacy.
If anyone knows of a good conservative critique of Fahrenheit 9/11, would you please post it. TIA
I am glad we now understand that when we say "No" or say "all" that is what we mean. Legalization of cocaine for children, legalization of alcohol for children, legalization of sexual relationships for children ...
(lp.org platform)
the repeal of all laws prohibiting the production, sale, possession, or use of drugs, and of all medicinal prescription requirements for the purchase of vitamins, drugs, and similar substances;
the repeal of all laws restricting or prohibiting the use or sale of alcohol, ...
the repeal of all laws regarding consensual sexual relations,
Getz is a rules-based idiot. Don't disagree with him that McCain-Feinhold is bad but it's law now. Left and right need to be treated consistently. Moore certainly shouldn't be given any special favors and be allowed to slip under the radar with his propaganda. I am not standing up for Michael Moore - ever.
Well first you are wrong there. No one is shutting down moore's film, what is at issue is advertising for his propaganda piece.
I was against CFR as anybody else, but there is a sweet irony that the left's holy grail is coming back to bite their fattest icon.
BTW, see the interview linked in reply #12.
I see where you're coming from, my apologies.
It's only wrong when the "other side" tries to impose censorship.
Thank you for your support of the First Amendment.
Amen. They've managed to slide over to the Left. Sad.
But the ad ruling on Moore doesn't necessarily imply an effort to 'hush Rush', perhaps even if Kerry won for 'Clinton's third term', as Clinton wants to portray it. It goes to sponsorship. And the irony is that the whole moveon.org was likely established to evade McCain-Feingold, and campaign finance reform. There's no question that Moore's work product is no film, and no documentary, but is most accurately termed a - negative campaign ad. And imdb.com, if they were honest, would create the category - negative campaign ad, feature length (see).
Fine, I admit I ran out of caffiene last night and didn't buy any.
I still think that the big-L people are completely idiotic in targeting the right as the ones who want to censor. The Left has been screaming for censorship of the protestors and the boycotters. Moore has threatened to sue for libel anyone who says anything bad about his film, and it's well known that he doesn't give interviews without screening questions first. This is only the second time I've heard of that stupid conservative group wanting to get Moore's film banned under CFR (nearly forgot about it).
Had the right been perfect in not trying to advocate any censorship, this article would never have happened.
I realize that your obsession with drugs is clouding your perception, but please read the article, and try to stay on topic for a change.
Since when is criticizing a hit piece like Moore's films an assault of free speech? Do we not have the right to speak the truth about liars? The Libertarians (big "L") are sounding more like liberals every day.
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