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Something We Agree On: 'The Liberal Case against Gay Marriage'
BreakPoint with Chuck Colson ^ | June 30, 2004 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 06/30/2004 6:32:21 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback

Is there a liberal case against gay “marriage”? Susan Shell, professor of political science at Boston College, thinks there is. She published an article on that very subject in the latest issue of the Public Interest. Shell believes that the liberal thing to do is not to impose same-sex “marriage” on our society, but rather, to find some middle ground that everyone can agree on. In her words, we need “to find a way of understanding marriage that is similarly true to the human situation and at the same time relatively impartial.”

Obviously, a Christian is going to have problems with Shell’s belief that human beings define marriage, rather than a transcendent moral law. Nonetheless, her argument is still a valuable one, because she correctly identifies the factor that distinguishes marriage from every other type of arrangement. Oddly enough, it’s a factor that many liberals don’t want to talk about at all.

“A suitable account of marriage might,” Shell writes, “begin as follows: Most human societies have honored the notion that special responsibility for children lies with the biological parents. . . . Human generation has a significance that is more than arbitrary, if less than obvious. Marriage is the primary way societies interpret that significance, and it is doubtful whether any other custom could substitute for it adequately . . . ” She goes on to argue, “Even marriage among those past child-rearing age or otherwise infertile draws on notions of partnership and mutual aid that has its primary roots in the experience of shared biological parenthood.”

Shell concludes that this is why marriage must remain unchanged: It has a special meaning and purpose. It protects children and strengthens the “natural bonds”—as she puts it—among family members. And this, she says, is what’s wrong with liberal arguments in favor of same-sex “marriage.” As an example, she cites Jonathan Rauch’s new book, Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America. Rauch endorses the idea of marriage as companionship above all else. Marriage, to him, means knowing “that there is someone out there for whom you are always first in line.”

As Shell points out, “Rauch views marriage as a response to the fears of adults that they might one day be abandoned, rather than to the fears of parents for their children, let alone the fears of children that they might actually be abandoned here and now.” She notes that, “Not every proponent of gay marriage makes the same arguments as Rauch. Still, few centrally insist upon the automatic parental rights and duties intrinsic to marriage as it is almost universally experienced.” That’s because they’ve come up with a different model for marriage, one that simply provides companionship. As Shell’s argument helps us understand, if we gave the name of marriage to a union that could not possibly produce a child, the whole meaning of the word would dramatically change.

Now there’s a lot to disagree with in Shell’s article—for example, her endorsement of civil unions. But we owe her a debt of gratitude for emphasizing an all-important point. I encourage everyone to read this article, because her “liberal case” is one we can make with our neighbors and with many others—including Christians who say they don’t want to impose our views on society.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: breakpoint; charlescolson; homosexualagenda; liberals; samesexmarriage
So...we've got reasons that conservatives, libertarians and liberals should all oppose gay marriage.

So why are we this close to jumping right into the straw house? I dunno...

1 posted on 06/30/2004 6:32:22 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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To: agenda_express; BA63; banjo joe; Believer 1; billbears; Blood of Tyrants; ChewedGum; ...
BreakPoint/Chuck Colson Ping!

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2 posted on 06/30/2004 6:34:48 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

There is no difference between marriage and civil unions. None at all. It's just word play.


3 posted on 06/30/2004 6:46:12 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Legislatures are so outdated. If you want real political victory, take your issue to court.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

True.


4 posted on 06/30/2004 6:49:48 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Get in the fight today: Freepmail me to get on your state's KerryTrack Ping list!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

-"rather than a transcendent moral law..."-

How's about a transcendent NATURAL law? Man...woman...can't get any more natural than that.

That, of course brings forth the question - is homosexuality natural? No, it isn't. Just ask any homosexual about their childhood (not casual questions, either), and I bet you'll discover something there that set it off. They might not be able to help themselves as adults, but then neither can those with other deviant behaviors. Doesn't mean we should accept it.


5 posted on 06/30/2004 8:28:29 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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Human generation has a significance that is more than arbitrary, if less than obvious. Marriage is the primary way societies interpret that significance, and it is doubtful whether any other custom could substitute for it adequately . . . ”

Well said.

6 posted on 06/30/2004 8:52:34 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: Mr. Silverback
Then there's Andrew Sullivan, with his conservative case FOR gay marriage. http://www.andrewsullivan.com/homosexuality.php?artnum=19890828

[On a different topic, there are the Libertarians For Life. http://www.l4l.org/library/cathchoi.html "A Libertarian Atheist Answers 'Pro-Choice Catholics'".]

7 posted on 06/30/2004 9:21:28 AM PDT by albertp (Malice in Blunderland, The Wizard of Odd, and Gullible's Troubles, too!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

There already IS AN REASONABLE AND LEGAL ALTERNATIVE for homosexual right now.

If they want to cohabibate indefinitly with their recreational sex partner, cohabitation agreements exist NOW, and are enforcable at contract law in the civil courts NOW.

This is a totally reasonable completly legal means of their having a legal "relationship". Of course there is no "love" in the equation, but then again the law does not care about "love", only reproductive sex.


It is a mere legal form, perhaps those legal form companies should create such cohabitation forms to go next to the quitclaim deeds at office depot.


8 posted on 06/30/2004 12:47:01 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

There is one for the moment.


Civil union "fiance"s do not get automatic spousal visas from the USCIS (formerly INS). No mailorder homosexual "brides".

Federal tax law does not recognize civil unions.

Social security does not recognize civil unions. (BTW: John (gay) Kerry is on record as willing to give federal recognisiton to homosexual sex partners for purposes of social security benefits and USCIS visas.) (it is burried in his web site)


9 posted on 06/30/2004 12:52:06 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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