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More Distortions From Michael Moore
Newsweek ^ | June 30, 2004 | Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball

Posted on 06/30/2004 5:59:27 PM PDT by mkj6080

June 30 - In his new movie, “Fahrenheit 9/11,” film-maker Michael Moore makes the eye-popping claim that Saudi Arabian interests “have given” $1.4 billion to firms connected to the family and friends of President George W. Bush. This, Moore suggests, helps explain one of the principal themes of the film: that the Bush White House has shown remarkable solicitude to the Saudi royals, even to the point of compromising the war on terror. When you and your associates get money like that, Moore says at one point in the movie, “who you gonna like? Who’s your Daddy?”

But a cursory examination of the claim reveals some flaws in Moore’s arithmetic—not to mention his logic. Moore derives the $1.4 billion figure from journalist Craig Unger’s book, “House of Bush, House of Saud.” Nearly 90 percent of that amount, $1.18 billion, comes from just one source: contracts in the early to mid-1990’s that the Saudi Arabian government awarded to a U.S. defense contractor, BDM, for training the country’s military and National Guard. What’s the significance of BDM? The firm at the time was owned by the Carlyle Group, the powerhouse private-equity firm whose Asian-affiliate advisory board has included the president’s father, George H.W. Bush...

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Here is another interesting excerpt:

Indeed, Moore himself has invited the scrutiny. He has set up a Web site and “war-room” to defend the claims in the movie—and attack his critics. (The war-room’s overseers are two veteran spin-doctors from the Clinton White House: Chris Lehane and Mark Fabiani.)

1 posted on 06/30/2004 5:59:27 PM PDT by mkj6080
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To: mkj6080

>>>...Carlyle Group...

Don't they own the Lowes theater chain? You know, the one that's running this crockumentary??


2 posted on 06/30/2004 6:02:02 PM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Michael Moore is to movies as Dr. Josef Mengele was to medicine.)
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To: Miss Marple

Another Chris Lehane siting...


3 posted on 06/30/2004 6:02:13 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Sighting, too...


4 posted on 06/30/2004 6:02:35 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: mkj6080
Michael Moore Linked to Carlyle Group
5 posted on 06/30/2004 6:02:39 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: mkj6080

I wish that guy would go away....he hates the military and he really hates that we have a President that has the balls to use it like a military should be used....


Unlike to crush the capitalist oppressors which is what his buddies Stalin and Lenin did....


6 posted on 06/30/2004 6:03:11 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Kerry renames the US The People's Republic of America)
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To: MikeinIraq

bump


7 posted on 06/30/2004 6:03:32 PM PDT by God luvs America (Support Our Troops....Don't vote for Kerry!)
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To: mkj6080

So THAT'S why my liberal in-law was asking about that group.


8 posted on 06/30/2004 6:03:59 PM PDT by RandallFlagg (<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com" target="_blank">Hatriotism)
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To: Keith in Iowa

"Don't they own the Lowes theater chain? You know, the one that's running this crockumentary??"

I'm sorta hung up on "crapumentary"


9 posted on 06/30/2004 6:05:21 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: mkj6080

It seems to me like there should be a lawsuit for libel and slander. Making such serious accusations with no proof ---- or what about suing over defamation of character?


10 posted on 06/30/2004 6:05:24 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: mkj6080

Big deal. The Saudis have invested at least 10 times that much in Time-Warner.


11 posted on 06/30/2004 6:06:43 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: mkj6080

Michael Isikoff and Mark Hosenball wrote this article in Newsweak? Is the End of the World at hand?


12 posted on 06/30/2004 6:08:39 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero

I was surprised too!!! Maybe they see all the attention on Moore as hurting Kerry because he is such a raving lunatic.


13 posted on 06/30/2004 6:09:28 PM PDT by mkj6080
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To: mkj6080

A most excellent column


14 posted on 06/30/2004 6:17:02 PM PDT by Incorrigible (immanentizing the eschaton)
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To: mkj6080
just say i won't go to see your movie mr. mm
15 posted on 06/30/2004 6:28:59 PM PDT by prfix
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To: mkj6080
A long read but well worth it.

I love seeing Moore's lies exposed for what they are. And by Newsweak no less!

16 posted on 06/30/2004 6:29:31 PM PDT by South40 (Amnesty for ILLEGALS is a slap in the face to the USBP!)
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To: Ben Hecks
I'm sorta hung up on "crapumentary"

I'm sorta 'fonda' fittingly calling that sleazeball; Michael Mooremanure.

17 posted on 06/30/2004 6:36:10 PM PDT by auzerais (C*ANSWER is a fatal brain disease afflicting all pro-jihadist Leftists!)
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To: All
There is nothing that Michael Mooremanure could ever say or do now that would make me believe him.

He is nothing but the 21st Century Leni Reifenstahl propagandist for the Islamofascist set.

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18 posted on 06/30/2004 6:43:24 PM PDT by auzerais (C*ANSWER: a fatal wasting brain disease that -only- afflicts pro-jihadism Leftists!)
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To: mkj6080

Michael Moore is an obnoxious creep.


19 posted on 06/30/2004 6:46:29 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: mkj6080
Whatever the motive, the Unocal pipeline project was entirely a Clinton-era proposal: ...

Moorelocks, don't read this article. It will make your head explode.


20 posted on 06/30/2004 7:17:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Intellectuals only exist if you think they do!)
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To: FITZ

It is almost imposible and probably counterprodsuctive to sue. Public figures are in a different category when it comes to slander and libel. It's pretty much anything goes.


21 posted on 06/30/2004 7:34:09 PM PDT by ClaireSolt
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To: mkj6080

Yep. I don't know how much it will hurt Kerry- there seem to be a lot of people who don't follow the news very much and don't know how to think critically and might be convinced by Moore's arguments.
If our side gets info out about Moore, that's another matter. As liberal as Kerry is, Moore is much further left.
Moore claims that the war in Afghanistan was about a gas pipeline and not about overthrowing the Taliban. I don't think Kerry would say that; hell, I don't even think Dean would have said that.
On the other hand, a lot of Dems are embracing this guy because he is anti-Bush; never mind his anti-American rants to European audiences, or his conspiracy theories and bogus claims. If it becomes widely known what kind of guy Moore is, and that a lot of Democrats have embraced his movie, then that definitely has the potential to hurt the Dems. But on the other hand, Moore may well embarrass himself. I think/hope he is in the process of doing so through this movie.


22 posted on 06/30/2004 8:42:18 PM PDT by monkeyman81
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To: mkj6080
Here is an even more interesting excerpt.

Moore has been really hyping up the assertion that Bush gave the order to let the Bin Laden family go, but it was in fact Richard Clarke: a Clinton hold over & fellow traveler who approved of the plan.

23 posted on 06/30/2004 9:39:32 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: ClaireSolt

That's too bad --- it seems there should be something that limits this kind of thing --- if all voters were smart enough to understand that what they see in movies isn't necessarily true --- but too many people are completely gullible, the see soap operas and believe it's reality.


24 posted on 07/01/2004 6:15:18 AM PDT by FITZ
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