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GOP Wages War Against Its Conservatives
GOPUSA ^ | June.28,2004 | Christopher G. Adamo

Posted on 06/30/2004 9:38:32 PM PDT by Reagan Man

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To: Reagan Man

Close the borders with machine guns!
Arrest and deport the illegals!
Protect the workers against the greedy bosses!
Crush the evil corporations! (owned by heartless retirees)
Vote for Ralph Nader and his Socialist Worker's Party cohort!
The True Bearers of the UberKonservative Banner Lead the Way!
41 posted on 06/30/2004 11:09:41 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

LOL We're not talking about the Communist Party of the old USSR. This is America and the political party in question is the GOP. Party loyalty is good. Debate on the issues is good. And disagreement on the issues is healthy for any democratic process.


42 posted on 06/30/2004 11:11:43 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Cultural Jihad

Tancredo is a smart guy. He seems to be asking for a showdown between his posse and the GOP. I don't think he'll win the 'real' v. 'rino' battle, especially when he's using trickery to stage it.


43 posted on 06/30/2004 11:18:09 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: shanscom

By the time we find the first million, another million would have already crossed the border. We need to have a grip on the border, especially to shut down the drug trade, but the idea that we're going to be able to magically track down all these people and send them back to Tijuana is insane.

It sure seems a possibility for other countries to protect their borders and keep illegals out. As the greatest and strongest nation on earth, I am SURE we could secure our borders-and quickly.


44 posted on 06/30/2004 11:19:24 PM PDT by conshack
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To: Reagan Man; gubamyster; HiJinx; Libertarianize the GOP; B4Ranch; hedgetrimmer; longtermmemmory; ...

Don't sit and take this crap, Reagan Man. Call on the posse of xenophobic border-wedgies when liberal Republicans try to pound the common sense out of you.


45 posted on 06/30/2004 11:19:36 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus (Out of the shadows and out of our tax base.)
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To: Reagan Man
I concluded some time back CJ, that you don't know you're arse from a hole in the ground. Take that as my final word to you. Dingbat.

Ditto....

46 posted on 06/30/2004 11:22:23 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: bayourod
Wow. LOL If you want to personally attack me, have at it. But at least present some evidence to support your outlandish accusations.

All I see from you is an emotional outburst totally lacking in substance. You prove nothing by acting like a juvenile.

47 posted on 06/30/2004 11:22:39 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Reagan Man

Three steps are critical to solving the illegal immigration problem facing America today. Seal the borders shut, enforce existing immigration law and halt govt welfare payouts to illegals by removing those incentives immediately. Most of those 12 million illegals will eventually head back home, making the management of finding and prosecuting, then incarcerating to deporting the remaining illegals an easier process, if not a perfect process.

Now there's a man with a PLAN. Let's start about November 3rd, 2004 OK?


48 posted on 06/30/2004 11:23:07 PM PDT by conshack
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To: Reagan Man

Same goes for his leftist sidekick....


49 posted on 06/30/2004 11:24:02 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Reagan Man
Three steps are critical to solving the illegal immigration problem facing America today.

These solutions are not in the governments agenda. Wont happen.

50 posted on 06/30/2004 11:25:17 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: SAJ

What I'd be kind enough to do, is provide a definition of abstruse for you.

Abstruse: incomprehensible to one of ordinary understanding or knowledge

Tancredo's remarks were abstruse. Deliberately abtruse.

I did not say they were inaccurate--but even if I did, I wouldn't fetch just because you demanded it.

Hope this helps, but not really.


51 posted on 06/30/2004 11:26:13 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: NewRomeTacitus
"Alex, I'll take Ideologuese for $100, please."

"The Jeopardy answer is . . . 'Liberal Republicans' . . . "

"What is 'Those who do not favor machine-gunning women and children at the border'?"


52 posted on 06/30/2004 11:27:02 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: unsycophant

I do remember that letter and it contains nothing but the truth. Illegal immigration is a serious problem that will not be solved by offering amnesty to people who willfully break US law, ignore employers who break US law and by offering endless welfare payouts to people who aren't US citizens.


53 posted on 06/30/2004 11:27:25 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Reagan Man

Your words speak for themselves.


54 posted on 06/30/2004 11:29:03 PM PDT by bayourod (Can the 9/11 Commission connect the dots on Iraq or do they require a 3-D picture?)
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To: Reagan Man
Hi! You seem a little swamped on this thread; thought I'd weigh in. A few of my observations:

First, the entire fact that there is a tiny cabal of liberal Republicans running the Congress is of no surprise. I have thought for some time that these people ran as Republicans only because they couldn't change parties before they were elected; it would have been a detriment to them in the primary. They are largely east coast elites, or in particularly liberal districts (i.e. Leach in my state). They wield their power simply by threatening not to vote for things that Conservatives want; and we don't have a leader strong enough to keep them in line (as Reagan used to...heck, he even got Dems to vote with him by effectively using his bully pulpit).

Secondly, I'm somewhat tiring of a group of "the party can do no wrong" hacks glomming onto the Conservative title. I've seen many posts here lately that say something like: "I was a liberal until about a year ago...now I'm Conservative." Right...guess what...they're still liberals (and may be Republicans), but they actually have come to believe that Conservatism means some of the nonsense that we've seen lately.

Third, and most importantly, despite the many posts to the contrary that I've seen lately, the American public is largely conservative; the liberal media spin about the "great divide" is overblown. Every poll shows that the majority is, or leans, conservative. But, since "we" don't believe polls here any longer...let's just look at the two latest examples of this phenomenon. The "Contract with America"...advertised across the country, directly to the people STUNNINGLY swept Conservatives into the House. Or, more lately, President Bush's first two years in office were marked by largely conservative ideals (tax cuts, abortion limits, etc., even that monstrosity of an education bill sounded conservative for its accountability). We were rewarded with LARGER majorities.

His poll numbers did not start slipping until he started proposing & supporting a bunch of liberal glop. I have no idea if his political advisers came up with this plan, or if it is what he really believes.

I DO know, as has been weatherproofing in the past, that Americans support people with strongly held conservative convictions...who aren't afraid to say so.

I will be voting for President Bush, because I support the war on terror...so save the juvenile "vote for Kerry" posts, please.

55 posted on 06/30/2004 11:29:34 PM PDT by garandgal
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To: Joe Hadenuf
>>>These solutions are not in the governments agenda. Wont happen.

I know, Joe.

56 posted on 06/30/2004 11:30:26 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: Reagan Man

If the good people of Colorado hand out 'endless welfare payouts' to undocumented immigrants, how is that the fault of anyone except the good people of Colorado?


57 posted on 06/30/2004 11:31:14 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Reagan Man

I do remember that letter and it contains nothing but the truth. Illegal immigration is a serious problem that will not be solved by offering amnesty to people who willfully break US law, ignore employers who break US law and by offering endless welfare payouts to people who aren't US citizens.

Ask the folks in Arizona, Brownsville, Texas, So California and all the other places near the border. Their treasuries are broke and in red ink because of illegal immigration. Amnesty and a continued influx of illegals will only make that situation worse.


58 posted on 06/30/2004 11:32:34 PM PDT by conshack
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To: garandgal
>>>You seem a little swamped on this thread; thought I'd weigh in.

Funny, I don't feel swamped. Thanks for the intelligent input, garandgal.

I thought this was a good article. It certainly woke up some of the FreeRepublics more centrist and moderate factions tonight.

59 posted on 06/30/2004 11:37:59 PM PDT by Reagan Man (.....................................................The Choice is Clear....... Re-elect BUSH-CHENEY)
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To: zarf
The Pubbies have got to find a way to be inclusive to expand the base and fiscally responsible.

Not likely. Republican pols can't keep the camels nose out of the "Big-Tent" anymore than the Democrats could (or Libertarians for that matter).

60 posted on 06/30/2004 11:41:21 PM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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