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Swedish pastor sentenced to one month's jail for offending homosexuals
Ecumenical News International ^ | June 30, 2004

Posted on 07/02/2004 1:09:12 PM PDT by lady lawyer

Stockholm (ENI). A Swedish court has sentenced a pastor belonging to the Pentecostal movement in Sweden, Ake Green, to a month in prison, under a law against incitement, after he was found guilty of having offended homosexuals in a sermon.

Soren Andersson, the president of the Swedish federation for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender rights (RFSL), said on hearing the sentence that religious freedom could never be used as a reason to offend people. "Therefore," he told journalists, "I cannot regard the sentence as an act of interference with freedom of religion."

During a sermon in 2003, Green described homosexuality as "abnormal, a horrible cancerous tumour in the body of society".


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This is where "hate crimes" statutes are heading. There are also provisions in the International Criminal Court statute that are designed to lead to the same outcome. Religious people could be arrested, not just for speaking out against homosexuality, abortion, or other Leftist causes, they could be arrested for refusing to perform homosexual marriages, or for making any religious distinction among people based on traditional ideas about morality.
1 posted on 07/02/2004 1:09:13 PM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: lady lawyer

Welcome to the new communism ... Homosexuality is a religion even more dangerous than Islam.


2 posted on 07/02/2004 1:11:57 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: lady lawyer

Pastor Green can borrow my tag line.


3 posted on 07/02/2004 1:12:10 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: lady lawyer
Prophecy says it will be.
4 posted on 07/02/2004 1:12:50 PM PDT by OSHA (I keep pitchin' 'em and he keeps missin' 'em....~Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: ScaniaBoy

Svenska ping!


5 posted on 07/02/2004 1:13:50 PM PDT by MadIvan (Ronald Reagan - proof positive that one man can change the world.)
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To: lady lawyer

Coming soon to America....


6 posted on 07/02/2004 1:14:01 PM PDT by Mulder (To be born free is an accident,to live free is your duty,to die free is your obligation. Wm. Coulter)
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To: lady lawyer
religious freedom could never be used as a reason to offend people

This is basically a way of saying that there is no religious freedom in Sweden. Any religious beliefs are bound to offend somebody who doesn't believe them. The gay activists truly are thought police fascists!

7 posted on 07/02/2004 1:15:05 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: lady lawyer

The Thought Police are in Sweden. How long before they arrive on our shores?


8 posted on 07/02/2004 1:15:32 PM PDT by Trampled by Lambs ("Making Al Gore regret inventing the internet, one post at a time")
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To: lady lawyer
Let me know when a homosexual activist is jailed for offending a straight person.

Chances are I will be long dead before it happens, if ever.

9 posted on 07/02/2004 1:17:01 PM PDT by Phantom Lord (Distributor of Pain, Your Loss Becomes My Gain)
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To: lady lawyer

This will happen here if we let it.


10 posted on 07/02/2004 1:17:17 PM PDT by SoDak
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To: lady lawyer

So we lost World War II after all, eh?


11 posted on 07/02/2004 1:18:08 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: SoDak

Scary situation.


12 posted on 07/02/2004 1:18:34 PM PDT by Ciexyz ("FR, best viewed with a budgie on hand")
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To: Trampled by Lambs

They are already here. Too bad we can't get the Muzzies to provide a solution to the Homosexual Question instead of the Jewish one. Since Jewish people aren't a problem, but homosexuals are.


13 posted on 07/02/2004 1:19:17 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

if we had lost WWII there would be no homosexuals in Europe at all. A fact the eurorats should remember sometime. Especially the gay ones.


14 posted on 07/02/2004 1:20:41 PM PDT by glennherman
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To: glennherman

No, the "pink" gays would be gone, it was the "leather" gays that were putting them to sleep.


15 posted on 07/02/2004 1:21:18 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: glennherman

All animals practice toleration but some animals are more tolerant than others.


16 posted on 07/02/2004 1:23:01 PM PDT by Tangerine Time Machine (Orange you glad it's not a lemon?)
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To: lady lawyer

Ake Green should have said, “your honor, if homosexuality were normal, none of us would be here.”


17 posted on 07/02/2004 1:23:31 PM PDT by tractorman
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To: lady lawyer

All of this and we somehow can't call the horrendus Carr murders in Wichita a hate crime. What a load of poop.


18 posted on 07/02/2004 1:23:37 PM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: lady lawyer

"Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."


19 posted on 07/02/2004 1:24:27 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: lady lawyer

Europe is no better than the Arab world when it comes to individual rights.


20 posted on 07/02/2004 1:25:27 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: glennherman
if we had lost WWII there would be no homosexuals in Europe at all. A fact the eurorats should remember sometime. Especially the gay ones.

They're a mass of contradictions, to be sure. A heterosexual can't so much as speak a word against them, but when it comes to torturing, humiliating and killing each other, that's all just part of the fun.

21 posted on 07/02/2004 1:25:32 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("This house is sho' gone crazy!")
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To: Commander8

It seems that Pastor Green is living your tagline. As are we all in this day and age.


22 posted on 07/02/2004 1:26:13 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: lady lawyer
Green described homosexuality as "abnormal, a horrible cancerous tumour in the body of society".

He's right on target.

Unfortunately, you can't say that in Sweden and give us a few years under leftist domination in this country, and we'll be tossing people who express true opinions into dungeons with greater frequency.

The suicide rate in Sweden is the highest in Europe and one can't help but wonder if the large gaggle of homosexuals are the ones offing themselves.

23 posted on 07/02/2004 1:26:16 PM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: lady lawyer

"During a sermon in 2003, Green described homosexuality as "abnormal, a horrible cancerous tumour in the body of society".

He sounds like he is saying to eradicate homosexuality, not the homosexual. BIIIIIIG difference - so how could this possibly be a "hate" crime??? Stupid Swedish!


24 posted on 07/02/2004 1:26:18 PM PDT by jackibutterfly
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To: lady lawyer

It's already going on in Canada too. A pastor there was fined for taking out an ad in the local paper that quoted scripture saying homosexuality was an abomination before God. A printer there was fined for refusing to do a printing job for a gay/lesbian group. They took him to court for declining to do the job and the court awarded them damages. Welcome to the gulag.


25 posted on 07/02/2004 1:26:57 PM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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To: lady lawyer
If this doesn't convince Christians that we are living at the end of the age, then nothing will, except maybe massive calamity and destruction, which can be averted through repentance and revival.

Good news for Pastor Green:

Matthew 5
10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

26 posted on 07/02/2004 1:28:46 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
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To: Vic3O3; triplmilo

A "Slouching toward Gomorah" ping!

Semper FI


27 posted on 07/02/2004 1:29:22 PM PDT by dd5339 ("We came to change a nation, instead we changed a world" President Reagan.)
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To: Trampled by Lambs
The Thought Police are in Sweden. How long before they arrive on our shores?

I believe they're already here. I think Ted Kennedy's "hate crimes" legislation is because Barney Fag's got something on him. LOL I have to say it while I still can. :-)

28 posted on 07/02/2004 1:29:30 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.)
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To: lady lawyer
During a sermon in 2003, Green described homosexuality as "abnormal, a horrible cancerous tumour in the body of society".

Huh? How on earth is that inciteful? (The charge they nailed him on.)Upon hearing these words did the parishioners leap up and an swarm into the streets,complete with torches and dogs, hunting down the poor, cowering homosexuals? If this was not the case -- if nobody did anything after he spoke those words -- then how was this poor fellowed found guilty of incitement? Why does the story not quote the minister's side of the story?

And, as an interesting aside, just who turned him in? You know the old saying: "He who waits can have anything he wants." The fact that the accuser just happened to be there during that particular sermon smacks of a set up. 'Course I'll be the first to admit I don't know, but sure as shootin' his lawyer should have!

29 posted on 07/02/2004 1:29:59 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: texgal

There's a new bible coming out of England I read a thread on the other day. It says that homosexuality is natural and normal, and that St. Paul didn't exactly condemn fornication. I expect that in places like Canada and Sweden that will be the only bible allowed, which will constitute a Government establishment of religion, but no one will care.


30 posted on 07/02/2004 1:31:20 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: lady lawyer

That's the dumbest thing I have ever heard. If Kerry, the Clintons and the like can't win the election; it's over for them. Too many countries are beginning to taste freedom now.

It's going to be nasty. They are probably going to try to steal the votes again.


31 posted on 07/02/2004 1:33:19 PM PDT by freekitty
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To: lady lawyer

I bet once the pastor gets out he goes right back to the pulprit and preaches the same message. At some these people will go too far even for liberals and socialists and the ship will eventually right itself. This is tyranny.


32 posted on 07/02/2004 1:33:50 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: lady lawyer; Commander8; Mulder; Phantom Lord; Mr Ramsbotham; johnb838
Green described homosexuality as "abnormal, a horrible cancerous tumour in the body of society".

At least the good pastor didn't say anything about "the old muddy road", "heat seeking missiles" or "fudge factories".

33 posted on 07/02/2004 1:34:26 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("a "blow by blow" account of Clinton's entire miserable existence")
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To: lady lawyer

So, now a pastor, preacher, imam, rabbi, priest or reverand cannot say anything IN HIS PLACE OF WORSHIP in Sweden that would offend anyone? Well, if sinners are a persecuted group, we'll all be offended!..........


34 posted on 07/02/2004 1:36:45 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy....The Marines make the world safe for the Army...)
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To: lady lawyer

Welcome to the New World Order....
The persecution of Christians for 'The Word's' sake
The man of lawlessness (aka Anti Christ) should be revealed pretty soon
For when good becomes evil and evil good....that's lawlessness
When the law of man is antithetical to the law of God ...that's lawlessness
And when lawlessness is codified -the impetus to do that -comes straight from the pit of hell
The time to be able to pick a side is drawing to a close
imo


35 posted on 07/02/2004 1:37:41 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: plain talk

No, this ship will sink. Stern (double pun) first......


36 posted on 07/02/2004 1:38:14 PM PDT by Red Badger (The Army makes the world safe for democracy....The Marines make the world safe for the Army...)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath

We're moving towards it but not there yet. Need a one world government first. How long do you give us?


37 posted on 07/02/2004 1:38:17 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
Good news for Pastor Green:

Matthew 5 10 Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. 11 Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake. 12 Rejoice, and be exceeding glad: for great is your reward in heaven: for so persecuted they the prophets which were before you.

Amen! Pastor Green's going to be rewarded big in the next life. It's going to be difficult on him for the remainder of this one though. In fact, it's going to be difficult on all of us. I think Christians are just beginning to see what persecution looks like, and we haven't seen anything yet. Btw, welcome to Free Republic. Nice nick! :-)

38 posted on 07/02/2004 1:39:56 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (Life is not about how fast you run, or how high you climb, but how well you bounce.)
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To: beyond the sea
"the old muddy road", "heat seeking missiles" or "fudge factories"

I did not know any of those terms. I hope the preacher did not speak of:

The Hershey Highway, Rump Rangers, Butthole Surfers, Carpet Munchers, or Pillow Biters.
39 posted on 07/02/2004 1:41:01 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: johnb838

LOL!


40 posted on 07/02/2004 1:42:46 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("a "blow by blow" account of Clinton's entire miserable existence")
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To: joesnuffy

Joe, all of these things make me more and more fully convicted that my choice to Follow Christ was the only right and proper one. All that is needed is a successful demagogue, and Bin Ladin may be the walkin' dude himself. I only hope that God will give me the power to martyr myself with glory to Him when the appointed time comes.


41 posted on 07/02/2004 1:43:44 PM PDT by johnb838 (When I hear "Allahu Akhbar" it means somebody is about to die.)
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To: lady lawyer
A Swedish court has sentenced a pastor belonging to the Pentecostal movement in Sweden,
Ake Green, to a month in prison, under a law against incitement, after
he was found guilty of having offended homosexuals in a sermon.


I wonder if this is the same fellow who has appeared in a number of Coral Ridge
(D. James Kennedy) specials...commenting on the likelihood he'd be
prosecuted given new speech codes.
42 posted on 07/02/2004 1:44:46 PM PDT by VOA
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To: lady lawyer
What good is religious freedom if a pastor can't speak out against sin? Had he been an Imam, the Swedegenerates wouldn't have done this.
43 posted on 07/02/2004 1:45:08 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Sunshine Sister; dd5339
All of this and we somehow can't call the horrendus Carr murders in Wichita a hate crime. Good point! But in liberal jurisprudence in KS, I think it's outlawed to suggest taht there ever be B on W hate crimes, only W on B.

Perhaps Bill Cosby better start looking over his shoulder for the Thought Police too! You read his comments in the news today? He at least has the guts to speak out on what is WRONG! I was impressed...

44 posted on 07/02/2004 1:46:08 PM PDT by Vic3O3 (Jeremiah 31:16-17 (KJV))
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To: glennherman
if we had lost WWII there would be no homosexuals in Europe at all.

Except for those at the top of the Nazi party.

45 posted on 07/02/2004 1:47:01 PM PDT by Defiant (Moore-On: That throbbing anticipation felt by a liberal hoping for America's defeat.)
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To: Unam Sanctam
The gay activists truly are thought police fascists!

Good job gay activists and fellow-travelers!
You're the kind of factor that needs to come along occassionally and
revive Christianity.
Sweden sure is a good spot for a bit of oppression to get the church moving again!
46 posted on 07/02/2004 1:47:05 PM PDT by VOA
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To: lady lawyer
religious freedom could never be used as a reason to offend people

Beyond belief. Simply beyond belief.

47 posted on 07/02/2004 1:48:39 PM PDT by badbass
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To: johnb838

That's all we need. Another "new world" translation.


48 posted on 07/02/2004 1:48:40 PM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: lady lawyer

I'm offended by all of the Civil Rights Act celebrations today assuming that I'm racist because I'm white, and that progressive liberals passed the Act (it was the minority party Republicans who got it through, over the objections of Al Gore Sr and Robert "Sheets" Byrd.) Can we have those events cancelled, too? And the Black Expos, too? I didn't think so. It only matters when when politically correct group are offended... so much for Equal Protection.


50 posted on 07/02/2004 1:50:22 PM PDT by Teacher317
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