Posted on 07/04/2004 10:03:13 AM PDT by OpusatFR
It looks like Democratic Party propaganda-meister Michael Moore may have finally found a way to get rid off all that filthy capitalist lucre he's been collecting from his hit movie, "Fahrenheit 911." That is, if he decides to go through with a proposal he floats in this week's Time magazine.
About the numerous complaints that his movie is chock-full of inaccuracies, Moore boasts: "There is not a single factual error in the movie. I'm thinking of offering a $10,000 reward for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong."
Ooops.
If recent reports from even liberal quarters are any indication, the line to take Moore up on his offer will likely stretch around the block.
On Wednesday Newsweek's Michael Isikoff detailed an array of errors in the movie that included, not just mistaken analysis, but seriously false claims - like the charge that the Bush White House let members of the bin Laden family flee the U.S. without any of them being interviewed by the FBI.
Then there's the Washington Post's Richard Cohen, who calls Moore's movie "juvenile in its approach" and "awful in its journalism," adding that some of his claims are so easily dismissible that "Fahrenheit" serves as "a warning to the Democrats to keep the loony left at a safe distance."
Of course, Moore said he's merely considering a "factual error" reward plan, not really offering one. Here's betting that this time he decides not to put his money where his mouth is.
I think the latest count was up to 52 documented lies.
There's no room, anyway.
I just found out that two newspapers accepted different editorials about Moore's lies and printed them today. I've already posted on letter to the editor. Another one is here:
I alternate between laughter and despair when I hear people who have seen Michael Moore's film Fahrenheit 911 and think it espouses anything closely approximating reality.
Have we so blurred the lines between actual news and entertainment that people can no longer tell the difference? It is a sad commentary on our times that people still believe the movie despite the fact that most of the mainstream news programs, dozens of reporters have written articles and entire web sites have devoted themselves to proving the many lies found in the movie. Several reporters have said it is easier finding falsehoods in the movie than finding a single bit of truth in it.
A few major falsehoods are as follows:
Moore insinuates that President Bush signed an order which permitted the Osama bin Laden family to leave the United States after 9/11. The person who signed that order and took full responsibility was actually the former Clinton administration terrorism czar, Richard Clarke, as we learned when watching him testify before the 9/11 Commission. Further, despite Moore's assertion that the family was permitted to leave without being questioned by law enforcement, the 9/11 Commission learned that the FBI did question the family members before they were permitted to leave the country for their own safety.
The Patriot Act is so despised by leftists like Moore that I'm rather surprised he would even suggest that over 100 family members, most of whom were estranged from OBL, should be held in the country against their will.
Moore insinulates that the Taliban met with Bush in Texas and the war in Afghanistan was to help Unocal Corporation build a pipeline in that country. He is apparently unaware that the Taliban never met with Bush but were invited to Houston by Unocal and that the visit was approved by the Clinton administration which met with the Taliban twice in 1997 and 1998. Additionally, the Associated Press reports that Unoral withdrew from planning to build the Afghanistan pipeline in 1998.
Moore claims there was no relationship between Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein, ignoring the fact on November 4, 1998 the Clinton administration obtained an indictment against Osama bin Laden in federal court which specifically mentioned the terrorist's connections with Saddam this way:
"In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the Government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the Government of Iraq."
Additionally, despite some initial mis-reporting by the press, the 9/11 Commission reports have detailed many connections between the terrorist and Saddam but they could find no operational role in 9/11 between AQ and Iraq. Even that was countered a few days later by the two 9/11 Commission Co-Chairmen when they said that a high ranking member of Iraq's Fedayeen military was present during at least one pre-9/11 planning meeting.
The list of falsehoods in the movie is a long one and does not distinguish Moore or those who get their "news" from the entertainment industry.
Here's how this is going to work-
1)Moore will set up his offer so that it's not legally binding
2)People are going to come forward with documented lies
3)Moore will refuse to pay, and will not be able to be forced to legally
4)Moore will point to the fact that he didn't have to pay anyone the money as proof that he's telling the truth
5)The idiots who already believe his crap will lap it up
"52 documented lies" bump.
If we get enough people together not only can we bankrupt him from the payout, but also forcing the the movie to be rightfully classified in the proper category "fairy tale" thus leaving him in 2nd place right behind "Garfield The Movie" which is running at 60 million, 10 Million more than F-11 .
Moore's money is quite safe. First of all, there is not a "single factual error", there are many. Secondly, if a "fact is wrong", then it's not a fact in the first place, and therefore not subject to the reward offer.
Thank you, Slick Willie, for making me think this way.
Ten grand would buy an awful lot of cheeseburgers. Perhaps the fat POS would reconsider his offer if someone told him this.
I saw one that said 56 documented "deceits" (and counting).
Moore is whistling past the graveyard - he hopes that if he blusters sufficiently the sheeple will assume there are no errors because "he wouldn't make that offer if there were, would he?"
And I should add-
Moore can also get away with this because he doesn't actually come out and say his lies, he just shows highly selective facts to make it appear that something is certainly so, when it can be factually show that it isn't.
It's an even more dishonest way of making a film than actually stating the lies flat out since it has built-in weaseling room.
His statement is totally true...You can't find a SINGLE fact that's wrong....they're are multiple facts that are wrong.
Moore's work has become a sort of "Where's Waldo" for conservatives. Kerry, Moore and Clinton..the standard bearers for the Jackass party in the summer of 2004.
When will the media begin discussing the obvious "credibility gap" in today's left?
Beat me to it. :)
"Even that was countered a few days later by the two 9/11 Commission Co-Chairmen when they said that a high ranking member of Iraq's Fedayeen military was present during at least one pre-9/11 planning meeting."
Did this make it into the report?
Notice he didn't say someone needed to find a lie, only an incorrect fact. Big difference.
It's easy to say he's thinking about it. The day he puts it in writing is the day I'll get in the line to collect.
It looks like to me if Moore can keep his word (cough, cough) he is a fixin' to go broke.
Never trust anything a left-wingnut, looney-tunes, lowlife, subhuman liberal-demokkkRAT says or does, and you'll do fine in life.
Let the honor go to Jim Robinson....besides, he needs a new van.
Yes, though mostly they are twisting of facts and false impressions. I mean when he says that The Saudis invested in a company, and Bush got money from a company, does he actually say that the Saudis paid Bush through the company? Or does he just omit that the investments were separated by several years?
"I'm thinking of offering a $10,000 reward for anyone that can find a single fact that's wrong."
Bookmark and send to your liberal family (I assume no one is tacky enough to have liberal friends).
How does one manage to have that much free time on one's hands to create such a website?
The information came to light after the last report but both Co-Chairmen were on the various political talk shows several times discussing the matter and I am hopeful they will be honest enough to put it in their next or final report.
FMCDH(BITS)
Ok. Will look for it. Thanks.
Like all pseudo-marxists he cares about money, power, and fame above all, especially money. He will never ever offer that $10,000.
I take it back. I just went to my file to get it for you and it's the same version.
He can keep his filthy money i hope he moves to paris and let that scum smell him forever!
That analysis is SO on the mark as to be truly scary.
I can see him doing that too.
The way I see if, if Mr. Moore (or "Fat Bastard," if you prefer) has an ounce of integrity, he owes me $30,000 for pointing out three errors. However, since he has the integrity of a depraved alleycat, I'm not holding my breath for the payment.
John / Billybob
Mike, if you actually do this and NO ONE claims the prize for finding an incorrect fact in FearAndHate 666, you need to contact the Amazing Randy. He claims to pay a million for a documented miracle.
Here you go (great article by the way).
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1164929/posts
Nooooooo, now Punk, if he wants to get rid of his money so that he can really become one of the "people", I won't stop him - in fact, I'll ask him for a donation of - say, twenty to thirty thousand - yeah, that sounds good!
Anything to help him become one of us...
Moore will just pretend the documented lies he's presented with are not lies. He'll do what Gary Trudeau is doing with his offer of $10,000 to anyone who will come forward as an eye witness to GWB's present in the National Guard in Alabama -- ignore them and pretend they didn't come forward.
Nahhh Dixie ill not have any of it.
He could donate it to Charities but he dont believe in them.
He could Donate it to small Buisnesses but he thinks those are the problem with America.
He could donate it to familys of fallen soldiers but his propaganda help the enemy take lives so the money would be tainted with the blood of the fallen.
Nooooo let him wollow in his monies it would be best if he choked on his own success maybe someday he will eat from the dumpster he was spawned from.
I can think of a few good charities which could use $520,000...but I have a feeling the only "charities" Mr. Moore would donate to would be those which give the families of homicide bombers reward money for letting their sons and daughters blow themselves up in Israeli pizza parlors and buses.
How Clintonesque. I guess it all depends on what the meaning of the word "error" is.
It is all in the wording, his argument will be that he did not tell a factual lie, that he juse espoused a threory and let the public draw it's own conclusions. i.e. the Taliban visit to Texas and the Unocal deal.
Last I heard, the list was at 68 errors.
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