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Kerry’s Conceptions (He now says he knows when life begins -- and he’s happy to end it right then)
The American Prowler ^ | 7/7/2004 | George Neumayr

Posted on 07/07/2004 12:25:39 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Whenever Democrats mock George Bush for holding that human life "begins at conception," they will also be mocking their own presidential candidate. John Kerry agrees with Bush. "I believe life does begin at conception," Kerry said this past weekend. "I oppose abortion, personally. I don't like abortion." This also echoes his wife's comments earlier in the year when she let slip that "I don't view abortion as just a nothing" and that abortion means "stopping the process of life."

Catholic Democrats like Kerry assume that making this sort of show of their personal moral distaste for abortion will make their "pro-choice" views more respectable. But it only makes them more disgraceful. Kerry can't even claim lack of culpability on account of cluelessness. He knows that abortion destroys a human life but promotes a right to it anyway.

"Vatican II is very clear. There is something called freedom of conscience in the Catholic Church," said Kerry, once again mangling Catholic teaching. It would come as news to the Pope that freedom of conscience gives a Catholic permission not to have one.

Kerry is still relying on Mario Cuomo's utterly lame and unconvincing public distinction between private faith and public duty. "I can't take my Catholic belief, my article of faith and legislate it on a Protestant or a Jew or an atheist," said Kerry, as if killing an unborn child is a prohibition peculiar only to Catholicism, a prohibition akin to abstaining from meat on Good Friday. Kerry's public/private talking point is a sophistry most high school debaters would be embarrassed to use. Will Kerry oppose laws against bank robbery since the Catholic Church regards that act as unjust? Will he say, "I can't impose the Church's opposition to theft on non-Catholics"? You don't have to be Catholic to oppose abortion or theft or kidnapping, etc. Just human.

Kerry falls back on saying that priests shouldn't influence politics. He even once scolded the Pope for "crossing the line," saying, "it's important to not have the Church instructing politicians." But why didn't this secularist scruple apply to John Kerry's support for Fr. Robert Drinan and "Father" Aristide? As long as the priest is politically liberal, Kerry will urge him to instruct politicians and even become politicians themselves. Kerry dropped out of a congressional race with Fr. Drinan out of deference to the pro-abortion Jesuit.

Kerry says he doesn't want any theology in politics. So why did he praise the "liberation theology" Aristide introduced into Haitian politics? (Kerry continued to call Aristide "Father" long after he had been defrocked from his order, because Kerry hoped the title would drum up political support for him in America.)

Kerry turns his Catholicism on and off like a tap, depending on the political need of the moment. When abortion is discussed, his faith is a private matter; when minimum wage comes up, his faith is suddenly public again as he tries to shoehorn his liberal version of Catholicism into the agenda of the Democratic Party. The most stark example of this tactic was Kerry's urging Americans to read the U.S. bishops' pastoral letter on the economy, an amateur-hour attack on Reaganomics by liberal bishops in the 1980s. "The bishops' pastoral letter is an important document which should be read by Catholics and non-Catholics alike," he said on the Senate floor before placing the letter in the Congressional Record.

Kerry can impose a faked-up socialist version of his faith on the American people, then turn around and say that his Church's teaching on homicide is of no relevance to the public weal. If his Catholicism shouldn't influence his public duties, why does his campaign website biography mention it in the third line?

Not so long ago Kerry, while campaigning in a church ("crossing that line" is of course okay with him), caricatured Bush as a man of empty faith, a man who talks about his religion but doesn't act on its civilized imperatives. The description fits Kerry far better. His faith produces no civilized deeds on abortion and he is proud of it, boasting to audiences of his 100% NARAL voting record.

Later this month at the Democratic convention we can expect to hear a great deal more about Bush's faith but "no deeds," as Kerry puts it. We will hear about the human rights abuses at Abu Ghraib on Bush's watch. But we will hear not about the human rights abuse of abortion, even though John Kerry knows what happens to unborn children far more clearly than Bush knew what was happening to prisoners in Iraq. Kerry will talk about applying the Geneva Convention to prisoners of war, but he won't dare talk about applying the Ten Commandments for the protection of unborn babies.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: abortion; bush; catholic; catholiclist; economics; kerry; kerryabortion; morality; presidency; prolife; religion

1 posted on 07/07/2004 12:25:40 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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2 posted on 07/07/2004 12:27:09 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

End it right then or "much later".


3 posted on 07/07/2004 12:30:47 AM PDT by dc-zoo
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To: nickcarraway

Well at least he can't appoint himself as a judge (using his litmus test).


4 posted on 07/07/2004 3:13:12 AM PDT by The Raven (<<----Click Screen name to see why I vote the way I do.)
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To: nickcarraway
You don't have to be Catholic to oppose abortion or theft or kidnapping, etc. Just human.

Too bad we don't have a "journalist" with the stones to confront him with this...

5 posted on 07/07/2004 3:50:09 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: nickcarraway

I'm all confused about this "stopping the life process", can we not say the "M" word?
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Murder.


6 posted on 07/07/2004 3:59:38 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Yes I backed over the vampire, but I swear I didn't see it in my rearview mirror.)
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To: nickcarraway

>>"Vatican II is very clear. There is something called freedom of conscience in the Catholic Church," said Kerry,<<

Kerry's conscience says whatever the latest poll tells it to say.


7 posted on 07/07/2004 4:09:13 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (I aint wrong, I aint sorry , and I am probably going to do it again.)
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To: nickcarraway

I agree with Kerry: Life begins at conception.

I support President Bush, because he acts on this principle.

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How does this sound when in discussion with Catholic friends who "feel" that they have to overlook the abortion voting record of dems, because "dems are the party for the poor and needy?"


8 posted on 07/07/2004 5:07:14 AM PDT by maica (Like Hitlary says; "We are going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good"...)
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To: sgtbono2002

"Our obligation as bishops at this time is to teach clearly. It is with pastoral solicitude for everyone involved in the political process that we will also counsel Catholic public officials that...

THEIR ACTING CONSISTENTLY TO SUPPORT ABORTION ON DEMAND RISKS MAKING THEM COOPERATORS IN EVIL IN A PUBLIC MANNER.

We will persist in this duty to counsel, in the hope that the scandal of their cooperating in evil can be resolved by the PROPER FORMATION OF THEIR CONSCIENCES."

Catholic Virginian, July 5 2004 Bishops Statement: "Cathlics in Political Life"


9 posted on 07/07/2004 5:18:49 AM PDT by OpusatFR (I only see movies for the popcorn. I'd rather read the book.)
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To: OpusatFR

You know, I really don't think the devil is concern is too concerned with my computer, but it crashed twice trying to get that excerpt posted.

Things that make you go "hmmmmmmmmmm..."


10 posted on 07/07/2004 5:20:10 AM PDT by OpusatFR (I only see movies for the popcorn. I'd rather read the book.)
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To: nickcarraway

Yet another example of John Kerry mocking Catholic values.
"Yeah I know the NORAL gang says a fetus is an unviable tissue mass. So what? I know life begins at conception so what? I'll still order live babies to be murdered. I need their votes"
catholicsgainstkerry.com is fighting to see that John Kerry never gets the power of the presidency.
Stand up and help us.
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11 posted on 07/07/2004 5:25:54 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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The democrat party is not going to abandon their sacrament of choice to hire a serial killer. The democrat party has been empowered for three decades by their service to this evil slaughter accompanied by liberal media complicity in the lies that prop up the holocaust of abortion on demand. Now, after serving evil for so long, the democrats no longer recognize the evil when it is presented in the issue of partial birth infanticide. Conscience? The democrat politicians have no conscience, only a lust for power. Sadly, the people voting mindlessly for them election after election have proven themselves to have dying conscience also, as they put the defenders of the indefensible back in office again and again. Catholics voting democrat? Catholics in name only, perhaps, but a true Catholic would not vote mindlessly for a person who defends the serial killing of alive unborn sensing children ... unless they did not know the unborn are alive human beings, but how can someone with a high school education deny this truth?


12 posted on 07/07/2004 8:24:07 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: nickcarraway; .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; annalex; ...
Later this month at the Democratic convention we can expect to hear a great deal more about Bush's faith but "no deeds," as Kerry puts it. We will hear about the human rights abuses at Abu Ghraib on Bush's watch. But we will hear not about the human rights abuse of abortion, even though John Kerry knows what happens to unborn children far more clearly than Bush knew what was happening to prisoners in Iraq. Kerry will talk about applying the Geneva Convention to prisoners of war, but he won't dare talk about applying the Ten Commandments for the protection of unborn babies.

Ping. (As usual, if you would like to be added to or removed from my "conservative Catholics" ping list, please send me a FReepmail. Please note that this is occasionally a high volume ping list and some of my ping posts are long.)

13 posted on 07/08/2004 11:51:26 AM PDT by Polycarp IV (PRO-LIFE orthodox Catholic - -without exception, without compromise, without apology. Any questions?)
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To: nickcarraway
"Vatican II is very clear. There is something called freedom of conscience in the Catholic Church," said Kerry

There is no such thing. Kerry is a jerk. Besides he's admitted he knows it is wrong by the comment about when life begins.

14 posted on 07/08/2004 12:42:07 PM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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