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To: marty60

that people are evil and do not love your country. I salute him from Polish Grom dear America Friend. Freedom that people do not know what it mean to be free.


6 posted on 07/09/2004 3:41:26 AM PDT by anonymoussierra (hello America)
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To: anonymoussierra

Wow, I missed your locale. Welcome, and God Bless you. Please express my heartfelt thanks to your countrymen for your support and sacrifice in this battle against evil.


14 posted on 07/09/2004 3:50:33 AM PDT by marty60
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To: anonymoussierra

Thank you for your sentiment. FReegards


115 posted on 07/09/2004 8:59:22 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "Who is this King of Glory? The Lord strong and mighty, invincible in battle."u)
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To: anonymoussierra
Having served 20 years in the US Navy, and first enlisting during Vietnam, I was subjected to these same epithets many years ago. I would have to say from the serviceman's point of view that we tend to look very skeptically on anything where we feel its not genuine. Like a sudden rush of patriotism after a victory or during times when things are good. Its when the times get bad is when the true patriots get seperated from the "summer soldiers". I've always held the following poem by Rudyard Kipling as a good view on how veterans feel.

Tommy

By Rudyard Kipling

Born 1865

I went into a public-'ouse to get a pint o' beer,
The publican 'e up an' sez, "We serve no red-coats here."
The girls be'ind the bar they laughed an' giggled fit to die,
I outs into the street again an' to myself sez I:
O it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, go away";
But it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play,
The band begins to play, my boys, the band begins to play,
O it's "Thank you, Mister Atkins", when the band begins to play.

I went into a theatre as sober as could be,
They gave a drunk civilian room, but 'adn't none for me;
They sent me to the gallery or round the music-'alls,
But when it comes to fightin', Lord! they'll shove me in the stalls!
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, wait outside";
But it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide,
The troopship's on the tide, my boys, the troopship's on the tide,
O it's "Special train for Atkins" when the trooper's on the tide.

Yes, makin' mock o' uniforms that guard you while you sleep
Is cheaper than them uniforms, an' they're starvation cheap;
An' hustlin' drunken soldiers when they're goin' large a bit
Is five times better business than paradin' in full kit.
But it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll,
The drums begin to roll, my boys, the drums begin to roll,
O it's "Thin red line of 'eroes" when the drums begin to roll.

We aren't no thin red 'eroes, nor we aren't no blackguards too,
But single men in barricks, most remarkable like you;
An' if sometimes our conduck isn't all your fancy paints,
Why, single men in barricks don't grow into plaster saints;
While it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Tommy, fall be'ind",
But it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind,
There's trouble in the wind, my boys, there's trouble in the wind,
O it's "Please to walk in front, sir", when there's trouble in the wind.

You talk o' better food for us, an' schools, an' fires, an' all:
We'll wait for extry rations if you treat us rational.
Don't mess about the cook-room slops, but prove it to our face
The Widow's Uniform is not the soldier-man's disgrace.
For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!

153 posted on 07/11/2004 8:41:36 PM PDT by Colt .45 ( Veteran - Pride in my Southern Ancestry! Falsum etiam est verum quod constituit superior.)
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