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Plame's Input Is Cited on Niger Mission (Joe Wilson lied about EVERYTHING)
Washington Compost ^ | 7/10/04 | Susan Schmidt

Posted on 07/10/2004 1:49:22 AM PDT by thoughtomator

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To: Howlin
The biographical blurb describes him as a "political centrist" who received a prize for "Truth-Telling," though a careful reader might notice that the award came in part from a group associated with The Nation magazine — which only Michael Moore would consider a centrist publication. -- "Our Man in Niger : Exposed and discredited, Joe Wilson might consider going back.," by Clifford D. May, NRO contributor, National Review Online, July 12, 2004, 11:05 a.m.

So you see, Wilson doesn't have to give it back because he told the truth as the Nation defines it...

YOu have to understand leftwingers- just as the CAIR-type Muslims deny anything you quote them on because "you didn't properly understand the original arabic," the left wing cannot be held to anything that isn't properly translated from the original Soviet era Russian. [Well, not really- they can't be held accountable for anything...] Let me help you with lib logic: Truth is the English word for the Russian "pravda." [Thus, truth = pravda] As we know, Pravda published wholesome Soviet propaganda. [Thus, pravda = propaganda] Hence, truth = pravda = propaganda, that is, truth = propaganda. So you can now see why he was awarded this Truth-Telling award; it is really the Ron Ridenhour Award for Pravda-Telling, in other words, the Ron Ridenhour Award for Propaganda-Telling.

That link is worth the visit, by the way.

381 posted on 07/12/2004 7:42:21 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: Howlin

=oD


382 posted on 07/12/2004 7:45:20 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
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To: YaYa123
But one person for certain knew he was lying his ass off...and she still works for the CIA!

Oh--and as Wilson was presenting his story, an anonymous CIA official was quoted in British papers touting his version. I'm on record as having stated I am very suspicious that Plame was that source, which is why I have often expressed the hope to one day see her and Wilson face charges.

It seems to me a government employee spreading lies designed to bring down a president at time of war would be breaking some laws. Establishing that is a different matter. Not impossible, though. We'll see. It is very scary.

383 posted on 07/12/2004 7:45:52 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: cyncooper

Bush didn't want to fire Tenet...he didn't want Tenet to go now, but finally accepted his resignation.

And you don't think that was poor judgement? Tennet was a nice guy, but INCOMPETENT.


384 posted on 07/12/2004 7:47:47 PM PDT by Ntv.Texun
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To: piasa

The link is definitely worth a visit. I admire Cliff May a great deal. He wrote a column last summer telling how he was informed of Wilson being recommended by his wife, who worked for the CIA. May said it was offered as explanation--by a democrat (he identified the "democrat" part on tv--I saw him say it on Fox), not by any WH people out to bring down Wilson.

I wondered myself this morning about the implications of Plame writing that memo and if it meant she would not be undercover. I see May posits the same thought. (Which again begs the question, wouldn't an investigation into that narrow question have taken about an hour to establish? It gives me hope that Fitzgerald was looking in another direction as I've often theorized).

Finally, May cites the theory from some intelligence sources that the forgeries may have been created to cast a shadow all legitimate evidence. Hmmmmmmm

I part company when he says he doesn't think Wilson is evil. I won't say he is, I just don't think May should have included it, for if Wilson has done what it seems evident he has, it goes well beyond partisan mischief. I wouldn't have felt the need to disclaim maligning Wilson, as May did--but other than that, super column.


385 posted on 07/12/2004 8:01:30 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: YaYa123
"and she still works for the CIA!"

You are knocking my socks off. I didn't know that.

386 posted on 07/12/2004 8:03:38 PM PDT by AGreatPer (Take my advise. I'm not using it.)
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To: piasa

Oh---And seeing how Wilson wrote at least one anti-war column that I know of that was published in "The Nation" (February 2003), what a shock that he then gets a "prize".

Good doggy, Joey.


387 posted on 07/12/2004 8:04:01 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: P.O.E.; holdonnow
Except Mark Levin talked all about this on his radio show today.

Great job,Mark!

388 posted on 07/12/2004 8:04:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Ntv.Texun

No, I don't.

I've posted often enough on FR that I admire Tenet. I've documented why.


389 posted on 07/12/2004 8:05:07 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: capocchio

Stay off live threads then;you don't add anything of "substance" to this one.


390 posted on 07/12/2004 8:06:19 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: AGreatPer
"and she still works for the CIA!"

You are knocking my socks off. I didn't know that.

Can you imagine the hue and cry had she been fired before this point?! Some of us think GWB needed the lawyer as the day approaches that she faces charges and the Wilsons file suit against him. (Of course, he met with Fitzgerald for that 70 minute session. Giving information helpful to the investigation, I'm sure.)

The media will ignore all evidence and take the Wilsons' side. That is, if she gets fired--and if--IF--charges are filed. But even just firing her will be a major event. Just watch.

391 posted on 07/12/2004 8:10:21 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: piasa; cyncooper; YaYa123
Now that we know that Mrs. Wilson did recommend Mr. Wilson for the Niger assignment, can we not infer that she was working at CIA headquarters in Langley rather than as an undercover operative in some front business or organization somewhere? As I suggested in another NRO piece (Spy Games), if that is the case — if she was not working undercover and if the CIA was not taking measures to protect her cover — no law was broken by columnist Bob Novak in naming her, or by whoever told Novak that she worked for the CIA.

Hahahahahhaha!

392 posted on 07/12/2004 8:19:22 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Ntv.Texun
So you're saying Bush couldn't fire George Tennet?

Since you're not busy right now, how about posting where I said that?

393 posted on 07/12/2004 8:21:14 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Howlin

Indeed--and how long would it have taken the CIA, the DOJ, let alone the grand jury, to find that out?

Gives me hope, I tell you.


394 posted on 07/12/2004 8:21:48 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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To: Ntv.Texun
The picture that emerges is that the administration trusted one Clinton holdover (CIA Director George Tenet) to use judgment in selecting someone to conduct a sensitive mission to determine if there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. That person turned out to be another Clinton holdover and Democratic Party contributor.

Yet another FALSE ACCUSATION from Newsmax.

Tenet didn't pick Wilson to go.

395 posted on 07/12/2004 8:22:35 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: YaYa123; cyncooper; Mo1

Files! I got files!

My bookmarks now unfold into the next room! I have *got* to get a system!


396 posted on 07/12/2004 8:24:59 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Howlin
Am I logged on???

I've spent the last 3 hours trying to get an internet connection ...

OK .. what have I missed??

397 posted on 07/12/2004 8:30:35 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1

Not much.......just soem Gen Xers giving the Boomers a bad time and some stuff on Joe Wilson........LOL.

Oh, and Ron Reagan is going to speak on stem cells at the Dem convention and Kerry has promised him that the "first thing" he's going to do when he's elected is sign an EO reversing Bush's stem cell policy.

And Kerry's gonna let immigrants with AIDS in!


398 posted on 07/12/2004 8:33:32 PM PDT by Howlin (John Kerry & John Edwards: Political Malpractice)
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To: Howlin
And Kerry's gonna let immigrants with AIDS in!

Oh good grief .. well medical insurance is bound to go up

Hmmmmm .. didn't Edwards have stock in that?

399 posted on 07/12/2004 8:42:03 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1

Did you see the thread earlier where Kerry says he has his own intelligence briefings from his own sources? The WH is too partisan, donchaknow.

Yes, we all believe it is the WH that uses terrorism as a political football. And Kerry still can't catch even a regular football.


400 posted on 07/12/2004 8:45:19 PM PDT by cyncooper ("We will fear no evil...And we will prevail")
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