Posted on 07/10/2004 2:11:58 PM PDT by annyokie
Actually, in the pursuit of brevity, I left out that my lawyer neighbor and her partner had gone to a fertility clinic to conceive the little boy. (I wasn't trying to be co;, I don't know if the donor was anonymous or a friend).
I have known many single career women who let the clock tick too long who took the same option.
The drive to have children is very strong with many, I'd guess most, women.
They seem to be loving parents and he is a darling child.
I will suffer the flames for saying that he is better off than the children of the children (15 year olds) up the street at the time. At least he was wanted and has a comfortable home with a stay-at-home mom who was 28 when he was born.
Man, are you tolerant.
This what would really screw with a kid's mind.
First, Cassidy's is told she doesn't have a 'dad' (like all her friends and neighbors do), but that she has a "Mom" and a "My Pat". After years of getting used to her unusual 'parentage', her Mom and My Pat have no doubt told her "everything's OK, you're not weird, lesbianism is natural", (can you imagine what kind of self-talk a person (kid) would go through with just the idea that she doesn't have a dad like the others), she sees her "My Pat" die.
Then Mom decides she's not a lesbian and marries a man! Geeeeez, Louise... she must totally distrust her Mom, knowing that she lied to her the whole time she was growing up about the whole "it's natural, lesbianism is natural" bullshit she was fed. To compound things, she is told how she was a turkey baster mix'em up good time in the kitchen 'creation'.
I feel so sad for this lady. I am so angered by the selfish decision her mother made to bring her into this world in that manner and those conditions. That is why I said earlier that the homosexual agenda does anything to justify their legitimacy. There is no consideration for the child.
And yes, the MAJORITY if the homosexual agenda pushers are politically DemocRAT. Yes I am sure you can cite a lesbian or gay couple here or there that aren't, but I guarantee there will be a bay and lesbian and gay adoption workshop at the DemocRAT convention in Boston in couple weeks. I wouldn't be surprised that even perform same sex weddings at the convention and even get it televised!
cyborg is right that we can't choose or parents, (cancerously), and we do have to rely on our own self determination to make the best of our situation, ALL of that pain could have been spared if the mom had had some degree of selfLESSness, instead of selFISHness. My kids are mixed race Caucasian (me) and Filipino (wife). They know who they are. They know they have a Mom and a Dad. They know that they can get away with stuff on their Mom, 'cause they are boys, and she is overprotective of them, but they better not try anything with dad, as I will drop the hammer on 'em! They LIVED a natural state of BALANCE. What I have told them since they were knee high to a duck, is that they are HUMAN beings, a perfect mixture of their Mom and my genes, and that they were wanted and we tried again even after miscarriages. Being a Dad means much more than being a sperm donor.
We are all free to interpret our Faith, of course.
I have a gay cousin and a gay niece, both raised in loving Christian homes. The struggle they have faced has been a trial for them and their families.
I can't believe that God would make them "wrong". One when so far as to marry and have a child to prove she was "normal."
The gays I have known and still know over the years who are accepting of their fate are much better off.
I think homosexuality may indeed be a birth defect. I am epileptic and my eldest son is as well as was my great-grandfather. I didn't choose it, but I have learned to live around it. Including not telling many friends and co-workers. Living with a secret makes for a furtive life.
Your gif is cut, BTW
This is the problem. I don't go around telling people that I am straight. Homos go around letting everyone know what they do in their bedroom.
This is why society cannot accept them.
I agree with you Smart A. It's in the Bible that man not lay with man and woman not...., etc.
God gave us 'freewill' and we do not have to tolerate those who use it in imoral ways.
"Actually, in the pursuit of brevity, I left out that my lawyer neighbor and her partner had gone to a fertility clinic to conceive the little boy. (I wasn't trying to be co;, I don't know if the donor was anonymous or a friend)."
However, of those two accomplices in sodomy, only one conceived. The other was superfluous to the process.
"I have known many single career women who let the clock tick too long who took the same option."
That really should be a crime.
"The drive to have children is very strong with many, I'd guess most, women."
Men, too, but there are no shortage of voices calling for men to be responsible in scratching that itch. Where are the voices calling for single women, sodomites or not, to exercise responsibility? This presumption that a woman alone--or two women together, or two men together--can properly raise a child is nothing less than toxic.
"They seem to be loving parents and he is a darling child. I will suffer the flames for saying that he is better off than the children of the children (15 year olds) up the street at the time."
That's what longitudinal studies are all about. Things are not always what they seem, as I'm sure you know.
"...(15 year olds)...At least he was wanted and has a comfortable home with a stay-at-home mom who was 28 when he was born."
Stay-at-home is good, but who says 28 is better than 15? Statistically, most of us here have grandparents who were children of 15 year olds...or perhaps 15 and 13, or 30 and 15, or 25 and 13, or any number of options that our dysfunctional society with its overflowing prisons, skyrocketing illegitimacy, metastasizing divorce rates, and glorification of the abomination of sodomy thinks undesirable.
Let's see, now: previous generations did it their way and had a pretty healthy society.
We do it our way and are turning into a loathsome pile that will make Sodom and Gomorrah look like Mayberry R.F.D.
Suppose there's a connection?
Maybe girls *should* be becoming parents at 15 in a society that forbids divorce. Maybe that's the way it's supposed to work.
I lived next door to her and saw her efforts to harbor her alchohic and pregnant older sister and later niece. And still later, making them decamp after she bought sis a car.
It wasn't idle chatter over the 1099.
My grandmother was married at 15 to a man who was 33 and a chronic whoremonger. She gave him three children by the time she was 19 and told him to hit the pike.
I worshipped her for her spine.
My post was in general and not toward you or her. I am sorry if it appeared that way.
My apologies to you!
There are a number of self appointed moralist on this thread. I didn't mean to jump on you since I know from past experience that you are not a zealot.
FRiends?
We should always remember that the words, "You are intolerant," are only *half* a sentence.
The other half is, "...of something **I** think should be tolerated."
That's all. "You are intolerant of something *I* think should be tolerated."
And yet, when you leave off the second half of the sentence, "You are intolerant," becomes an accusation of moral turpitude, like "You are dishonest," or "You are a child-molester."
Thing is, it's not really that kind of accusation. It merely notes a difference of opinion on what should and should not be tolerated.
Same-sex attraction disorder is a mental problem like any other. Sufferers should be pitied, and charity requires that we encourage them to seek help. It is a curable disorder, after all.
Wrong thinkers can insist that right reason requires us to regard it as healthy and good, but they can make no case for that position. The evidence is all against them. And even if it weren't, God's word is against them.
Intolerant? Yeah, of things God calls abominations. If somebody has a problem with that, well, then I think we can truncate that sentence too: they have a problem.
My "Post" is "Pro-Active;" "Picking Up the Pieces AFTER the "Damage Is Done" is our "Lot in Life;"--PREVENTING the "Wreckage" is our Best Goal.
A "Normal Human Being" REQUIRES the Psychological Input of BOTH a "Human Male & Female."
If this "Premise" is INACCURATE;--There NEEDS to be a WHOLE LOT of DATA to PROVE IT!!
TO DATE, NO ONE has proven that a "Homosexually-Raised Individual" is the "Cultural Equal" of ANY person with "A Dad & a Mom!!"
We Need Several Generations to "Prove That" our Species Needs ONLY a "MOM"--or a "DAD"--to Prosper & Survive.
I would NOT be surprised if "BIOLOGY" is more important than "Ideology" here...The "Lib's" simply CANNOT ACCEPT THAT we "Are What we Are--Biologically"
No Matter How "Noble" our "Beliefs," Human BIology IS WHAT IT IS---Sometimes, we will Inherently "Back" an Endeavor (We will Go Back to the Moon--& ON to Mars)--But we will ALSO DEFEND OUR YOUNG; There can be NO "Entity" which Threatens our Young that we WILL NOT OPPOSE!!
Until "ISLAM" "Sorts Itself Out," ALL "ISLAM" will be Considered "Inimical!"
"Western Culture" has NO OTHER CHOICE.
"ISLAM" has been ALARMINGLY RELUCTANT to "Police Itself."
There has been an AMAZING LACK of "True Believers of Islam" WILLING to "Turn In" the Suicide Bombers & Murderers now Operating in the Middle East--DESPITE the FACT THAT these psychopaths are KNOWN TO Many.
Many of Us--In the West--are Fearful That these "Tribal Loyalties" may Create a DEVASTATING WORLDWIDE CONFLAGRATION brought on by IGNORANCE.
We Fear that TOO FEW of the "Local Leaders" understand that their "Tribal Antagonisms" are, Globally, TRIVIAL,--& WORLDWIDE THERMONUCLEAR ANNIHILATION is NOT a way to "Settle Old Scores!!"
Doc
"My grandmother was married at 15 to a man who was 33 and a chronic whoremonger."
One case, or a hundred or a thousand, say nothing about a rule that offers the best chances to the hundreds of millions over millennia.
:O yes sir
No worries!
Takes more than that!!
Takes more than that!!
***You look like Bill Clinton.
CS Lewis says there is nothing wrong with divorce, Why be chained to misery?
If your family were some of the thousands who were too chicken to blow off a faithless husband or wife and move on then that is your demon, not mine.
"Gee, I have that new Pontiac, I can put up with Bob banging his secretary on Tuesdays and Thursdays.""
You have a great weekend!
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