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The new conspiracy: Rush and Rupert's Fox
U.S. News- Washington Whispers ^ | 07/19/04 | Paul Bedard

Posted on 07/11/2004 6:34:54 AM PDT by Pokey78

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To: DesertDreamer
Brains wins over angst every time

Well said DD. I know we will prevail. I can't wait to rub it in their face when we win in November. :o)

21 posted on 07/11/2004 7:13:17 AM PDT by MissyMa
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To: MissyMa
I can't wait to rub it in their face when we win in November. :o)

I'm with you, girlfriend.
22 posted on 07/11/2004 7:20:42 AM PDT by DesertDreamer ("Anger is not an agenda for the future of America."~~President George W. Bush, 2/23/2004)
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To: MissyMa
I agree... I love Fox, unfortunately our cable doesn't carry the FOX News Network, but one of our local radio stations airs alot of the shows. This is an amazing thing since this town is very liberal.

I heard Rush talking about this proposal by Harkin to get him booted off Armed Forces Radio. Ain't gonna happen. That is censorship, and Bush certainly has final say so as to what happens to the Bill.

I get as frustrated as you at times with all this nonsense about the attempts to muzzle free thought. The good news is that people like Rush, Hannity, Savage, Rusty Humphries, Laura Ingraham, and a host of other conservative talk shows continue to grow stronger everyday.

I remember when Rush was the only one out there.

Glad to hear the coffee is strong. Just got back from church, so my coffee tastes as great!

23 posted on 07/11/2004 7:23:44 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: jriemer
There's not much room before they come to violence,

The good thing is that all the conservatives have all the weapons.

On a serious note, I have often wondered if we will ever face another civil war? I can't imagine it happening. I think eventually the Democratic party will fracture, and implode upon itself.

24 posted on 07/11/2004 7:27:00 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: Pokey78
In Rush's case, he's under fire for something he didn't do. See, he's the only political commentator on Armed Forces Radio

That's true if you believe that NPR doesn't offer "political commentary." AFRTS carries virtually the entire weekly NPR lineup, including Fresh Air, The Diane Rehm Show, Talk of the Nation, All Things Considered, and Morning Edition.

http://www.npr.org/worldwide/afrtsschedule.html

25 posted on 07/11/2004 7:28:03 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Pokey78

The whole right vs. left argument would be rendered moot if they would openly declare their bias.


26 posted on 07/11/2004 7:29:47 AM PDT by Brett66 (www.scifiartposters.com)
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To: woofer
They think they have hamstrung Sean Hannity because no new radio stations have joined his franchise since late 2002.

Actually Sean was not in the Pittsburgh market until a new FM talk radio station premiered in January of this year(WPGB, 104.7). Great lineup(Quinn, Beck, Boortz, Hannity), except for bi-polar Savage.

When Rush's contract is up with the big K, I expect him to be on WPGB's lineup.

27 posted on 07/11/2004 7:34:27 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Pokey78
It seems that they are finally admitting, in a roundabout way, that there is great market demand for news with less of a liberal bent and perhaps more of a conservative slant.

The days of left and center-left monopoly control of the mass media message is over. They used to be able to get the ball rolling for a leftist program with a bunch of favorable news stories. The newsies would tell us "that's the way it is," and we would believe it, and Congress (or the courts) would enact it.

I almost never watch network TV, but I saw most of a NCSI (or something like that) and most of a JAG recently, and they seemed to me to be written so as to appeal to a center-right audience (like my parents). The NCSI show dissed the recovered memory stuff, and the JAG episode defended the US war in Iraq and had a great Rumsfeld-like character who said some pretty Freeperish things. In the show he was Sec of Navy, but the character was obviously based on Rumsfeld.

And 65-80 year old center-right folks tend to vote in large numbers, and know how to use the voting machines.

28 posted on 07/11/2004 7:37:31 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: Northern Yankee
On a serious note, I have often wondered if we will ever face another civil war? I can't imagine it happening. I think eventually the Democratic party will fracture, and implode upon itself.

I hope so, or that another party will rise to replace them. I have a lot of concern about the number of Federal Agencies that were given police powers and their own armed police during the Clinton years. The government expanded the number of things they 'regulate' in our lives, and provided their own armed thugs to enforce those regulations. As more and more people are impacted by these things, more come to realize why we need to remain armed ourselves as a defense against them. Either the government will accept that the people will broadly ignore this attempt to change the way we live, or there will be a civil war - citizens against government police.

29 posted on 07/11/2004 7:37:43 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: jriemer

They are becoming desperate since the USSR evaporated and GW was elected.

GW's WOT has made them insane. Their beloved Opecker Islamofascists are their last hope of weakening America.

When GW kicks their gay John/John wet dream team in November, they will become very desperate.

Like all wounded wild and dangerous animals, they will become more wild and desperate.


30 posted on 07/11/2004 7:39:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (You can't be pro business and for a positive economy and be a trial lawyer!)
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To: Pokey78
Translation: The Stone Age press has lost it's monopoly! And I always thought the Criminal Left was FOR the 1st Amendment???

Pray for W and Our Amazing Troops

31 posted on 07/11/2004 7:39:59 AM PDT by bray (Yaaaawn Tax , Tax , Tax & Kerry wants your paycheck!)
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To: Kay Ludlow
Lots of good points Kay.

When you think this type of thing could never happen, all you need to do is go back and look at the seizure of Elian Gonzalez.

Absolutely no rights were given to the Gonzalez family what-so-ever.

Whenever I hear about some liberal complain about the Patriot Act, I ask them, "Where was your concern when Elain was removed from the house, while staying with relatives?!"

I Still am stunned that the mainstream media ho-hummed this whole thing!

32 posted on 07/11/2004 7:42:44 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Freedom Needs A Soldier!)
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To: bray
Translation: The Stone Age press has lost it's monopoly!

Or in short, what Alvin Toffler prophesized in his book The Third Wave in 1979 has become 2004 reality. Sorry, mainstream press.

33 posted on 07/11/2004 7:55:09 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: MissyMa

Don't forget, liberals know better than any of us, about anything, anywhere, anytime...


34 posted on 07/11/2004 8:09:42 AM PDT by livius
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To: MissyMa

I was stationed overseas from 1992 to 2000 and NPR was on AFRTS! Of course we all know they’re objective journalist (yes I’m being very sarcastic). Liviius is correct, Rush is on because he was wanted. If there was a demand for a left wing talk show it would also be on.


35 posted on 07/11/2004 8:11:32 AM PDT by Red Dog #1
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To: Northern Yankee
Absolutely no rights were given to the Gonzalez family what-so-ever.

Yep.

The danger here, to our country as it stands, is that as the people who believe we are better off with government control (as opposed to freedom and free market controls) are more and more brazen, they will get more and more opposition. People tend not to object strongly to government interfering in other people's lives, but very strongly when it's their own lives. The left has been going along for decades interfering with our free choice through increasing controls on business (how many regulations control what our automobiles are like?), without increasing them too blatantly on individuals. That is starting to change, as the totalitarians get more positions of authority and more accustomed to getting what they want.

I see it at the grass roots level in the property rights issues. In Pennsylvania, the left-leaning communities (including my own) have for decades been increasing the regulation on what we do on our property, with the goal apparently being right out of 1984 - All that isn't mandated is prohibited. That was controversial but do-able in some communities. They hated that other communities didn't do that stuff, and people would move there to avoid regulation. PA State recently put into effect state-wide building codes, wherein you need to get government approval for pretty much anything you do to any structure on your land - building a building, improving your kitchen, replacing your water heater (they adopted almost all the International Building Codes recommended by the UN). All was quiet when they passed it, because the rural people who never had permitting didn't know.

Now that the word is out (municipalities must either have their own permitting/inspection staff, or certify and advertise that permitting/inspecting will be done by the state government), and people can see how it will impact them personally, it's started quite the firestorm. The state house is furiously backpedaling and debating all kinds of exemptions, claiming that the Dept of Labor is going much farther with the law than they had intended.

This is the kind of stuff, that personally effects people who choose to live quietly without government, that could be the impetus to a revolt.

36 posted on 07/11/2004 8:23:14 AM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Northern Yankee
On a serious note, I have often wondered if we will ever face another civil war? I can't imagine it happening. I think eventually the Democratic party will fracture, and implode upon itself.

There's a non-trivial faction of the left that has already left the field of rational debate and switched over to black-block and ALF / ELF-style violence against those who they disagree with.

I just wonder when such activities will be the norm and not the exception for Leftist political activity.

37 posted on 07/11/2004 8:46:40 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: Grampa Dave
I concur on all points.

Before anyone takes this the wrong way: A 2nd Bush term will be quite dangerous for America as the Left will be completely loosed from rational thought. The most vitriolic attacks against Reagan were in his second term. This time around, they won't have the Presidency, the Congress and the Courts might shift direction. There will be a political meltdown on the Left. A non-trival percentage of their supporters have been violent in their support of other political causes. They will only be more incensed and prone to do what they are accustomed.

By comparison, A John-John Presidency will be worse as it will make the 8 Clinton years look like that era was run by Moderate Senate Republicans.

38 posted on 07/11/2004 9:00:19 AM PDT by jriemer (We are a Republic not a Democracy)
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To: jriemer

The elite limo drive lunatic lefties are real danger of losing the power they have given themselves since WWII.

They will become more desperate until GW/Cheney flatten the metrosexual John/Johns!

Then they will go completely off the wall after that.

We may be seeing the death spiral of the lunatic libs.


39 posted on 07/11/2004 9:05:56 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The DNC version of Batman and Robin: The two a$$ grabbing John/Johns! Yuck!!!)
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To: longfellow
F___K HER !

Not even with a stolen p**k.

40 posted on 07/11/2004 9:10:24 AM PDT by uglybiker (I misspell ekxentric on purpose just to be different)
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