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‘No Joy in Our Lives’
ABC NEWS ^ | July 9 2004

Posted on 07/12/2004 5:39:31 AM PDT by runningbear

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To: Canadian Outrage

Nancy had one of the forensic MD's on. Dr. Baden, I think. He was all excited, said he'd heard something new from "the famous pathologist, Dr. Vincent DiMaio". (I didn't know DiMaio was so big, that's great, why doesn't the prosecution GET HIM?) Baden said, "there was meconium in the baby's.... digestive canal." (He was about to say "rectum", I guess, but thought better of it.)

Of course, WE already knew that, thanks to you and Jackie, and whoever else told us about that GREAT sequence regarding how the baby was NOT born.

Anyway, I wish Nancy had let Baden talk more; instead, she was making him digress and explain what meconium was, blah blah blah. But the upshot was, Baden said that the defense would never be able to prove or seriously suggest that the baby came out of the womb before he was killed.

Nancy then mentioned the possibility that someone cut the baby out. She didn't mention what you all said, about how the person would've had to reach down under the pants in order to do this. However, she debunked that ridiculous idea by pointing out that that meant the crooks had taken the baby out of Laci to... what? Raise him? No. Sell him on the black market? No. Hold him for ransom? Nope. Instead, she said, they just inconvenienced themselves by forcing themselves to have to make a second trip back to the Bay to dispose of the baby--after they'd already thrown Laci's poor abused body into the Bay.

Ridiculous.

Nancy thought the video of the still house, with the lamps on (it was taken at night, looking into the windows) was poignant. She said Sharon looked pale and sad while watching. Meanwhile, she said, Scott and Pickle-Nose sat back as though they were in recliners watching a game. Scott was entirely unmoved by the footage of the cozy-looking home that he will never go back to.

To me, the whole thing about the video, or a large part of it, was that MCKENZIE WAS BARKING AT THE PHOTOGRAPHER NON-STOP. Hello? Does anyone doubt now that this dog would make a fuss if someone grabbed Laci away from him?

And of course the video showed that there was not a trace of any break-in activity.


161 posted on 07/12/2004 10:14:54 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Canadian Outrage
He has to weave all of this into a picture which the Jury will understand.

I respectfully, but emphatically, disagree.

I believe his task is to SIFT the facts and then construct an eminently plausible and believable picture for the jury.

It is frustrating not to be able to witness the trial, but the impression one gets is that the jury is being presented (by the PA!) with a blizzard of unconnected facts that can only result in confusion and uncertainty.

162 posted on 07/13/2004 2:22:14 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: Devil_Anse

lol.... I watched her last night....Oh my, dating a detective, if Amber did? What a relationship! Oh my! Greta..... ;o)


163 posted on 07/13/2004 2:55:29 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
dating a detective

LOL. But, you know, RB, I've been thinking about this. If Amber had any real relationship--I mean, love/sex relationship with this detective, anything that was going anywhere--would she have said to him, "Hey, could you check out a guy I'm dating, I want to see if he's married?"

I mean, if she was really considering both this Byrd, and Scott, as her Real Prince Charming, I wouldn't think she would be bringing up one of them to the other. Men have this thing, they kind of like to think they are the only one...

164 posted on 07/13/2004 5:09:54 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse

yep.... and you know, LEO's know in many cases before they get involve with someone, they do a mini check and wants....(enough to were they fall into the guidelines of privacy invasion issues) they don't want to be caught with their pants down (so to speak), and media take wind of a bad sheep thingy.... Many PD department heads will make sure those who wonder off will reep in their reviews or actions.


165 posted on 07/13/2004 5:37:48 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: Devil_Anse

If Amber had any real relationship--I mean, love/sex relationship with this detective, anything that was going anywhere...
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Maybe this was one of others that she had on a back burner for some reason (maybe he's married). The fact that she turned to him suggests that she trusts him to some extent. I was wondering how Amber could have sent a card or letter to Snott's house with Amber thinking that Snott lived in Sacramento or SanDiego? Now, I'm thinking that Byrd could have run Snott's vehicle license plate through NCIC and found Snott's Modesto address. Amber could have sent one of her X-mas cards to the Covena address. Laci could have intercepted it.


166 posted on 07/13/2004 6:17:04 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: juzcuz

Yes, perhaps back burner.

If he was not married, I see nothing wrong with Amber having spent time with this man while she was also dating Scott. Amber was single. And Amber was not exactly SCOTT'S one-and-only!

In fact, even if this Byrd was married, seems to me she could have him for a friend, and that wouldn't even be thought improper in a state other than California! A friend is a friend. Otherwise, we'd be living the way they live in the middle east!

Very good thought about the license plate! You betcha, it would've taken him all of a minute to run that plate and get the real home address.

As exciting as it would be to find out that Amber had then sent something to Scott's house, I kind of don't think she did. She'd only known him for a month. I think she was playing it cool, just checking him out. Surely a player like Amber would know that if she sent something to the house, that might make Scott so mad at HER that he'd... I dunno... kill her, or something! (Or at least break off his relationship with her!)


167 posted on 07/13/2004 6:37:14 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
Okay! Her job as a massage therapist was undoubtedly a front for her real job as a prostitute.

I didn't think anyone had officially said anything definite about Amber's job. Thanks for verifying that.

168 posted on 07/13/2004 11:41:53 AM PDT by An American In Dairyland (Have you forgotten?)
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To: Devil_Anse

A Joke to brighten your day...
*****
A housewife takes a lover during the day, while her husband is at work. Unbeknown to her, her 9 year old son was hiding in the closet. Her husband came home unexpectedly, so she hid her lover in the closet. The boy now has company.

Boy: "Dark in here."

Man: "Yes it is."

Boy: "I have a baseball."

Man: "That's nice."

Boy: "Want to buy it?"

Man: "No, thanks."

Boy: "My dad's outside."

Man: "OK, how much?"

Boy: "$250."

In the next few weeks, it happens again that the boy and the mom's lover are in the closet together.

Boy: "Dark in here."

Man: "Yes, it is."

Boy: "I have a baseball glove."

Man: "How much?"

Boy: "$750." Man: "Fine"

A few days later, the father says to the boy, "Grab your glove. Let's go outside and toss the baseball." The boy says, "I can't. I sold them." The father asks, "How much did you sell them for?" The son says, "$1,000." The father says, "That's terrible to overcharge your friends like that. That is way more than those two things cost. I'm going to take you to church and make you confess." They go to church and the father alerts the priest, and makes the little boy sit in the confession booth and closes the door.

The boy says, "Dark in here."

The priest says, "Don't start that sh*t again............."


169 posted on 07/13/2004 11:55:46 AM PDT by juzcuz
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To: juzcuz

Juzcuz!

That was hilarious!! I think I'll tell that one to Father Patrick!

No, wait, I better not! He might think it's a come-on!


170 posted on 07/13/2004 12:02:02 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse

Ok So--Lets suppose...

Dec. 21st Amber contacts Byrd. Byrd runs a check and tells Amber Snott's Modesto Address.

Dec.22ndAM Amber decides to Fed-Ex a X-Mas photo to Snott so he'll have her pic. before he leaves for Maine the next day.. They talk on the phone. She acts 'ditsy' and tells Snott she found 'this other address' and mistakenly Fed-Ex'ed her photo there (Modesto). Amber plays it off as well so I got the wrong address it will be returned to me. Scott plays it cool too.

Meantime Snott Panicks Dec. 23rdAM Snott comes home (Covena) briefly @10:00 to pick up a Fed-Ex. (He misses it or Snott thinks it never arrived) Three hours later, Snott calls Amber from an airport in Sacramento, telling her he is on his way to Kennebunkport, Maine. He travels all the way to Sacramento to call Amber, to reinforce the LIE that he lives in Sacramento, Not knowing for sure that she was on to him. He could have used one of his numerous cell phones to call her. Instead, he went out of his way to use a phone with a Sacramento AC for a reason..

In the mean time. Laci retrieves the package before Snott gets back and doesn't mention it to Scott all day even at Salon. Later (after 8:30 PM on the 23rd) Laci opens it and the S*** hit the fan..

This could have happened...


171 posted on 07/13/2004 1:04:58 PM PDT by juzcuz
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To: juzcuz

I think it could easily have happened that way.

But even more: Scott was talking to Amber so much, even in Carmel, and one wonders if Laci noticed his phone calls while there. I mean, maybe it was there that she first noticed that he might be cheating.

The maid did say Scott came "back" to the house at 10 a.m. on the 23rd, to get a Fed Ex. I assumed he had successfully gotten it... ? If he hadn't gotten it at that time, but knew that Amber had sent this "bomb" to Modesto, wouldn't he have stayed glued to the house, so he could quickly intercept it? ("Just a customer sending something, dear.")


172 posted on 07/13/2004 3:48:45 PM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse

LOL! Oh, no...not the bluh spattr!!

I've got some catching up to do.


173 posted on 07/13/2004 7:31:22 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: Devil_Anse

wouldn't he have stayed glued to the house, so he could quickly intercept it?
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Your right he would have. Unless, he was unsure of the package or thought it was more important to be in Sacramento. There was a Fed-Ex delivered on the 24th as well.


174 posted on 07/13/2004 7:31:31 PM PDT by juzcuz
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To: Devil_Anse

Fed-Ex delivered on the 24th as well.
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Scratch that-- I don't remember a Fed-Ex on the 24th..


175 posted on 07/13/2004 7:36:02 PM PDT by juzcuz
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