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***GOTTA SEE THIS***N. Korean Spies Trailing US Defector in Indonesia Caught By Japan TV (Video)
JNN TV , Tokyo (Video Stream) ^ | 12 July 2004 | JNN TV (Video Stream)

Posted on 07/12/2004 12:21:10 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

[North Korean agent apparantly riled up, over the weekend, at the attention he has generated from Japanese reporters in Jakarta]

Charles Robert Jenkins, a US Army sergeant, defected to North Korea in 1965, near his post along the DMZ. He is considered a deserter by the US government.

After nearly 40 years in North Korea however, he and his two children were allowed by risk-taker and dictator Kim Jong-il to go to non-extradition treaty Indonesia on Friday, to meet his separated Japanese wife, who was kidnapped by North Korean agents years ago, and was able to get out of North Korea herself last year through Japanese government efforts.

Over the weekend, aggressive and enterprising Japanese TV crews based in Jakarta, Indonesia had uncovered the nefarious activities of three North Korean officials, who are in Jakarta following Mr. Jenkins' every move, and making sure he does not stray "too far".

These three agents have been trying to pressure the Japanese government and even Japanese journalists at the hotel to see Mr. Jenkins to "talk with him", or otherwise find out ways to 'get to the 14th floor' to see him. On the other hand, Mr. Jenkins and his family have made themselves "unavailable" to the North Koreans by Japanese authorities on site.

[Jenkins, photo]

It appears the North Koreans had an agenda to return Jenkins to Pyongyang after a short time out of "the People's Paradise", or at least control his movements so nothing embarrassing would be said or done about North Korea while he is abroad.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: agents; defector; deserter; dprk; indonesia; jakarta; japan; jenkins; kidnappees; northkorea; pressure; spies; tv
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Here are the URLs of two video streams, both in 300k and 56k, by JNN Network, wherein Japanese reporters located these three North Korean officials/agents, tailed them around the hotel as they snooped around to get to Jenkins, tailing them going in and out of the North Korean Embassy in Jakarta, cornering them when the North Korean's attempted to then look like they were "sightseers", and otherwise showed them as nervous and fidgety about the situation with Jenkins and gaining access to him.

300k clip at: http://www.bcast.co.jp/cgi-bin/yahoo/news.asx?cid=20040712-00000054-jnn-int-movie-001&media=wm300k

56k clip at: http://www.bcast.co.jp/cgi-bin/yahoo/news.asx?cid=20040712-00000054-jnn-int-movie-001&media=wm56k

It should be noted that Jenkins faces military justice in the United States, but he did appear to ditch his Kim il Sung communist badge a day after arriving in Jakarta, and in fact does want to come to the West.

This could be an interesting international tug of war, with a man facing two equally tough fates and decisions.

1 posted on 07/12/2004 12:21:15 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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2 posted on 07/12/2004 12:24:20 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; OahuBreeze; yonif; risk; Steel Wolf; nuconvert; MizSterious
OK, here youse guys go!

Fascinating. It is pretty self explanatory. Enjoy the video.

3 posted on 07/12/2004 12:25:19 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Don't let the SOB back into the country, leave him to the tender mercies of Kim


4 posted on 07/12/2004 12:25:32 PM PDT by sticker
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To: AmericanInTokyo
300k clip at: http://www.bcast.co.jp/cgi-bin/yahoo/news.asx?cid=20040712-00000054-jnn-int-movie-001&media=wm300k

56k clip at: http://www.bcast.co.jp/cgi-bin/yahoo/news.asx?cid=20040712-00000054-jnn-int-movie-001&media=wm56k

5 posted on 07/12/2004 12:28:14 PM PDT by AgThorn (Go go Bush!! But don't turn your back on America with "immigrant amnesty")
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To: AmericanInTokyo

American intelligence should snatch him and his wife, debrief them on some Pacific Atoll for a few months and then decide what to do with him based on the value of his information. Maybe a guilty plea, with the Army considering the time his spent in NK to count against a sentence, let him live in obscurity somewhere.


6 posted on 07/12/2004 12:29:07 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: sticker

I think it would be worth debriefing him to let him come home. Then, depending on the value and reliability of the information, we could decide what to do with him. I have sincere compassion for his (kidnapped) Japanese wife and do not wish her to suffer.


7 posted on 07/12/2004 12:30:31 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: sticker

Yup, and it looks like he's been kept pretty much near starvation, like everyone else in that hellhole (except Kim Jung Il himself).


8 posted on 07/12/2004 12:31:11 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Cool article. Figures that the NKs want to keep a tight grip in this clown. He might say something nasty about Kim. If he does come back to the US I say we hand him back to the NKs. It won't cost us anything and is will be worse then prison for Jenkins. He deserves his fate.


9 posted on 07/12/2004 12:32:53 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: CatoRenasci
Considering as he trained North Koreans in English- speaking and other activities, at Amnokgang College in North Korea (Pyongyang) it is said he also taught along with various US military personnel there, some who had gone over on their own will and perhaps, most importantly, those who did NOT go over on their own will. -- They guy also lived in the closed and surveilled housing enclave in Pyongyang for Americans and others there, including POWs and/or defectors. What happened to them? Are they still there? Executed? Disappeared? Suicide? Still living?

They guy might know the whereabouts of American POWs in North Korea. I agree, he has intelligence value.

10 posted on 07/12/2004 12:37:11 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: AgThorn
Wow, I understood every word of that. Not.

Just do not allow that traitor b@$+@rd back in this country.
11 posted on 07/12/2004 12:37:31 PM PDT by JRPerry ("What You Think About You Do ... What You Do You Become.")
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To: CatoRenasci
The wife is a citizen of Japan. There will be no 'snatching' of her by the USA.

On the other hand, (despite him having a DPRK passport) he is a US citizen still, and subject to desertion laws. It is not so clear what we can do...I am sure the US and Japanese governments, perhaps even at the Koizumi and W level, will work something out wherein we get most of what we want and they get most of what they want. The real losers will be the DPRK, who will have lost one of theirs as well as a potential flow of info being opened up as to how they operate up there (one of the few windows we have).

12 posted on 07/12/2004 12:40:11 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: AgThorn

Thanks! I've always wanted to learn how to do that.


13 posted on 07/12/2004 12:42:38 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: JRPerry
If there was any part of the 6 minute video you did not understand, let me know!

I'll gladly synopsize/interpret it for you (and others) into English.

I DID like the one part of it that WAS in English...the pushy female Japanese reporter asking one of the agents "Excuse me? Hello? Are you North Korean? I think you are from North Korea? Do you speak English?"

And the somewhat nervous and pestered North Korean guy just ignoring her.

14 posted on 07/12/2004 12:46:05 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Well, call it protective custody for the wife and children until they are safely in Japanese hands, as opposed to NK hands. The children should be both Japanese and American citizens, no? Their fate must also be considered. None of them can be permitted to return to North Korea.


15 posted on 07/12/2004 12:55:17 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci
Debrief him in Indonesia, then throw his butt back to the wolves. I don't like having the wife suffering, but he betrayed his country. Hell, I don't now why we let all the lefties back into this country after they go to cuba and kiss castro's arse.
16 posted on 07/12/2004 12:57:01 PM PDT by sticker
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To: CatoRenasci
Believe me, they are under Japanese govt. control at the moment in Jakarta, and they will not be allowed to revert to DPRK control (especially Ms. Soga!) if the Japanese have anything to do about it.

If I had my way, I'd have Jenkins' UCMJ sentence (if he really did defect/desert and was not kidnapped) reduced from 40 years down to about 10, in return for a major statement by him that Kim Jong-il wear's women's clothes, or some other such scandalous 'information' designed to embarrass the Great Leader internationally...oh, and of course, good, credible information on the whereabouts of other Americans up there in that Hell Hole.

17 posted on 07/12/2004 12:59:09 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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To: sticker

I understand your sentiment, but I think we need to be practical: if we debrief him and then toss him back, that would discourage any other defectors who might want to come home with valuable information. We need to balance his undisputed crime with the help he can give us now. I'm not saying let him off, but don't harm his wife or children and don't physically harm him. We have far too few opportunities to talk with those who have been in NK for long periods of time.


18 posted on 07/12/2004 1:02:07 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Just whose custody he is in was unclear from the article. Do you mean to say he is currently under Japanese protection? What about the children? I agree we need to get the facts and balance any desire for vengence against the information he can provide.


19 posted on 07/12/2004 1:03:56 PM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Arabiam Esse Delendam -- Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit)
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To: CatoRenasci
While he (Jenkins) and the two daughers were joined by three North Korean shadows (the topic of the video), they were escorted from North Korea to Indonesia about an All Nippon Airways charter flight and in the company of Japanese Foreign ministry staff. Their Indonesia stay and schedule is under the control of the local Japanese Embassy in Jakarta, it appears.

Furthermore, the Japanese are denying any contact right now from North Korea, through their agents, to the family because "they want to be left alone". Japan feels that North Korea may threaten the three to return to the DPRK if things begin to look bad for them. Even on the flight down from Pyongyang, Jenkins was visited in his seat about three or four time by the 'shadows'. Who know's what they were saying? I don't know.

For all intents they are guests of the Government of Indonesia with the escort confines of the Government of Japan.

20 posted on 07/12/2004 1:10:10 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (***Since The Iraq War & Transition Period Began, NORTH KOREA HAS MANUFACTURED (8) NUCLEAR WEAPONS***)
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