Judge declares state's gun law unconstitutional (Minnesota)

Star Tribune ^ | 07.14.04 | Tony Kennedy

[BenLurkin]

http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/4873980.html

"Joint Religious Legislative Coalition in Minneapolis. It works with groups of many faiths, including Protestants, Catholics, Jews and Muslims."

I suspect these are left leaning congregations but that is only my speculative opinion.

[goldstategop]

This is the first time I can remember a liberal judge saying something nice about religious faith. Of course in this situation, a way was needed to get rid of those dreaded guns. Mission accomplished <sarcasm

[jdege]

CCRN meeting tonight at Hamline Law School in St. Paul at 7:30pm

[Joe Brower]

FYI, on the other thread, Freeper "School of Rational Thought posted, "CCRN meeting tonight at Hamline Law School in St. Paul at 7:30pm".

I hope this may be useful to you.

[umgud]

bump

[snopercod]

Thanks for posting the factual information.

[henderson field]

I am ashamed of the United Methodist Church. It used to be an American institution.

[bunkerhill7]

In New York State it is legal to walk or ride your horse with a saddled open-breech rifle on board (... Department of Natural Resources.") .

[agitator]

Most people don't understand how important the "one subject" clauses are.

[Kuksool]

I'd like to see if these same liberals who supported the rights of churches to bar concealed carry on their property would support the right of religious institutions to fire gay pastors or not teach abortion procedures in Catholic Hospitals.

[Kuksool]

According the logic of liberals, these churches are engaging in partisan politics and need to audited by the IRS.

[Kuksool]

When I was on a business trip in Minnetonka, I saw a corporate office building post a sign that said to turn your gun in at the front desk. The people there were ignorant of gun ownership rights. They told me how they live in fear of being shot because of the conceal carry law. I bet they are rejoicing now.

[claudiustg]

---And kudos to the leftists in the Methodist Church, Episcopalian Church, National Council of Churches, etc., for defeating the will of the majority of elected legislators and, in turn, the majority of the voters in Minnesota. ---

Add the ELCA (Evangelical Lutheran Church in America) to the list. They oppose the Israeli fence and support gay marriage (de facto).

[Mrs Zip]

ping

[Mrs Zip]

Wouldn't that also make the bill for Department of Natural Resources unconstitutional ?

Inquiring minds like OURS want to know.

[johnmorris886]

To All the libertarians who are screaming in support of Judicial Activism when it comes to the Perversion of Marriage how does it feel when Judicial Activism comes back to bite you on an issue that you care about?

You see the hypocracy of wanting to live in a Judicial Oligarchy ONLY when it suits your amoral and immoral agenda?

The Judges are out of control everywhere, we need to stop this NONSENSE once and for all.

[91B]

Don't give up hope. The recent stance taken by the United Methodists against homosexual marriage is encouraging.

[91B]

Thanks for all the hard work on this thread.

[jdege]

To All the libertarians who are screaming in support of Judicial Activism when it comes to the Perversion of Marriage how does it feel when Judicial Activism comes back to bite you on an issue that you care about?

I consider myself a libertarian, and I support gay marriage, and I still think it's inappropriate for the courts to impose it.

Which is why I support the version of the amendment that declares that nothing in the Constitution, or any state Constitution, shall be interpreted so as to require the government or the government of any state to recognize as marriage a relationship between anyone other than one man and one woman.

But why I do not support the version that requires that marriage be recognized only between a man and a woman.

I believe that this is an issue that should be settled state-by-state, in the legislatures. And I believe that in that forum, over time, we will eventually move towards recognition of gay marriage.

Vermont recognized civil unions, other states looked at the results, and considered their own legislation, and the process continues. We learn, as a country, what works and what doesn't, and we educate the populace, over years, as to whether their fears are grounded or groundless, and I believe we'll eventually get to a form of recognition for gay relationships for which there is a general consensus in the country.

Or maybe I'm wrong, and gay marriage will prove a disaster, in the states that try it, and the country moves to a general consensus that gay marriage is destructive. It's not what I expect, but if it turns out to be the case, we'll have reached the correct consensus in rejecting it.

In either case, we'll have gone through a long period of experimentation and education before reaching a consensus, and I think that is necessary.

The one thing I am certain of is that if the courts short-cut the process, imposing recognition of gay marriage on the country without the experimentation and education, we'll have first, a law that is far inferior to what would have resulted from the experimentation, and second, a large part of the population that is absolutely opposed to the idea, because we'd have not gone through the education.

And the consequences will be far from pleasant.

[mrustow]

Reminds me of the Simpson's episode where Mondale (the Capital janitor) tells Lisa the only way to get a bill passed it to paperclip it to an unrelated bill.

You just had me choking with laughter! A Capitol janitor named Mondale?! Paperclipping bills?! I have to find out who wrote that script. I wonder who did "Mondale's" voice.