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Judge declares state's gun law unconstitutional (Minnesota)
Star Tribune ^ | 07.14.04 | Tony Kennedy

Posted on 07/13/2004 10:08:18 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

Minnesota's conceal and carry gun law was declared unconstitutional today by a Ramsey County District judge.

Ruling in a lawsuit brought by several churches, Judge John Finley wrote in his decision that it was unconstitutional for the 2002 Legislature to bundle the conceal and carry gun language with a "totally unrelated bill relating to the Department of Natural Resources."

He said the state Constitution prohibits laws from embracing more than one subject.

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1 posted on 07/13/2004 10:08:20 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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To: wallcrawlr
Ruling in a lawsuit brought by several churches

Gee... I wonder what kind of "churches" these really are...

2 posted on 07/13/2004 10:11:01 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Become a Monthly Donor, and the Harp Seal gets it.)
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To: wallcrawlr

I wonder how many laws passed in MN are now unconstitutional? This should make for a wild ride. The Republicans in MN should move to stick this ruling right up the anti-gunners a**.


3 posted on 07/13/2004 10:13:46 AM PDT by stylin_geek (Koffi: 0, G.W. Bush: (I lost count))
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To: wallcrawlr

I'm not fond of the practice of piggybacking legislation on unrelated bills. I wonder what language in the state constitution prevents the practice. Obviously the legislation itself deserves to go through on its own though.


4 posted on 07/13/2004 10:14:59 AM PDT by mcg1969
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To: wallcrawlr
Wouldn't that also make the bill for Department of Natural Resources unconstitutional ?
5 posted on 07/13/2004 10:16:17 AM PDT by stylin19a (Only the mediocre are always at their best)
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To: wallcrawlr; *bang_list

BANG


6 posted on 07/13/2004 10:16:29 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: wallcrawlr

---a Ramsey County District judge---

He's a little out of his pay grade isn't he? Is he going to declare all the rest of the laws that have been passed as part of other bills unconstitutional?


7 posted on 07/13/2004 10:17:31 AM PDT by claudiustg (Go Sharon! Go Bush!)
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To: wallcrawlr

Reminds me of the Simpson's episode where Mondale (the Capital janitor) tells Lisa the only way to get a bill passed it to paperclip it to an unrelated bill.


8 posted on 07/13/2004 10:18:02 AM PDT by smith288 (Flush the Johns! Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: mcg1969
I wonder what language in the state constitution prevents the practice.

Most states, probably Minnesota too, have what's called a "single subject rule" in their state Constitution. If it's a DNR bill, everything within it must relate to nature, forestry, etc., or the offending parts can be invalidated by the courts.
9 posted on 07/13/2004 10:18:42 AM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Ruling in a lawsuit brought by several churches
What about separation of church and state? Where is the ACLU? How dare some church interfere with the political process! (sarcasm abounds)
10 posted on 07/13/2004 10:21:25 AM PDT by JTHomes
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Freaking Moron. He's gonna get his ruling kicked up over his ass on this one.


11 posted on 07/13/2004 10:21:41 AM PDT by Area51 (RINO Hunter, Big Time.)
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To: wallcrawlr
This is the kind of thing we have to look forward to if JFnK gets to appoint Supreme Court justices.

Gun ownership is unconstitutional.
Tax cuts are unconstitutional.
Christianity is unconstitutional.

12 posted on 07/13/2004 10:22:45 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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To: Chad Fairbanks

The Church of the Impending Genocide, probably.


13 posted on 07/13/2004 10:23:08 AM PDT by thoughtomator (End the imperialist moo slime colonization of the West!)
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To: Area51

I hope so. However, the legislature ought to just pass the Concealed Carry law as a separate bill while this issue winds its way through the courts just for spite.


14 posted on 07/13/2004 10:23:30 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (Become a Monthly Donor, and the Harp Seal gets it.)
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To: Area51

I'd bet money he's a gun grabbing Socialist demonrat.


15 posted on 07/13/2004 10:24:23 AM PDT by Area51 (RINO Hunter, Big Time.)
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To: comebacknewt

This is the kind of thing we have to look forward to if JFnK gets to appoint Supreme Court justices.
Gun ownership is unconstitutional.
Tax cuts are unconstitutional.
Christianity is unconstitutional.


12 posted on 07/13/2004 10:22:45 AM PDT by comebacknewt
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Everytime you post that remember who appointed Souter!


16 posted on 07/13/2004 10:25:18 AM PDT by Area51 (RINO Hunter, Big Time.)
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To: jdege

BANG


17 posted on 07/13/2004 10:26:23 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi min oi)
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To: stylin_geek
I wonder how many laws passed in MN are now unconstitutional? This should make for a wild ride.

Your post reminds me of one of my favorite Minnesota political items.

Minnesota had been strongly Democrat for about 30 years when Republican Gov. Arnie Carlson appoints his sister in law to a judgeship. While she is highly regarded, the Democrats want to make some political hay and call for new anti-nepotism laws to prevent such outrageous actions by a Republican. They call in all their media and start a blitz. It’s going to be the news story of the year; it’s on every channel of every media until Arnie utters these few words “Fine, be sure to make it retro-active”.

Democrats looked at all the appointments and positions they had given out over the past 30 years, and…

The story disappeared faster than the speed of light; it disappeared so fast, it was as if the story never existed, from a force 100 hurricane to a mild fall day in about 1 second. It was truly a moment to behold, and a tribute to the Democrats grip on their media.

18 posted on 07/13/2004 10:37:22 AM PDT by RJL
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To: wallcrawlr
From the state constitution...

Sec. 17. LAWS TO EMBRACE ONLY ONE SUBJECT. No law shall embrace more than one subject, which shall be expressed in its title.

Now, when its convenient to use against the right, they actually follow the constitution. I have no problem with it as long as every other combined bill with two unrelated subjects are also held unconstitutional.

19 posted on 07/13/2004 10:42:10 AM PDT by Solson ("Ugly knows ugly though." - WorkingClassFilth)
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To: wallcrawlr
Ruling in a lawsuit brought by several churches, Judge John Finley wrote in his decision that it was unconstitutional for the 2002 Legislature to bundle the conceal and carry gun language with a "totally unrelated bill relating to the Department of Natural Resources." (DNR)

Interestingly, before this “shall issue” law was passed, one of the requirements for a CCW permit was to complete a DNR Gun Safety class, and completion of that class was listed on the back of your drivers license.

20 posted on 07/13/2004 10:47:29 AM PDT by RJL
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