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Posted on 07/15/2004 4:29:58 PM PDT by sandlady

It is time we vote our religious convictions! Enough is enough! We're sick of the party of Michael Moore, Whoopie Goldberg and Barbara Streisand!

I think we have reached a point in time when committed Christians, who believe in the Bible, in traditional moral values expressed in the 10 Commandments, and believe in family values based on marriage between one man and one woman, can no longer in good conscience, vote for most Democratic candidates.

Not only is this an issue for Christians, but for Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Hindus, Shinto’s, and practicioners of other religions. I am not a religious scholar, but if I am not mistaken, most world religions oppose many of the moral positions of those who shelter under the banner of the Democratic Party on some very important social issues. The Democratic Party is the Party of Abortion on Demand, Homosexual Marriage and removing all references to God and religious values from American Life.

Not only is the Democratic Party the party of Abortion on Demand it’s also the party of those who supported and continue to support Partial Birth Abortion. Abortions in this country have never really been about saving the life of the mother, and that is even more true in these times of advanced medical knowledge and technology. From the very beginning of legalized abortion, it became a matter of abortion on demand to the tune of 1.3 million abortions done a year.

How long will we continue to tolerate the idea that a woman has the right to sentence her unborn child to death in the name of freedom of “choice” and lifestyle. Does an unborn child deserve to be murdered just because the child is unexpected, inconvenient, or the source of economic or social embarrassment?

Legalized abortion was made the law of the land in the U.S. Supreme Court decision called Roe v. Wade. But even “Roe” (not her real name) has repented of her role in this landmark decision. She is now an ardent spokesperson for the Pro-life, anti-abortion movement.

Partial Birth Abortion is the logical extension of abortion on demand (infanticide on demand) made legal by means of Roe v. Wade. Most people don’t realize what happens during a “partial birth abortion” because it is a fairly mysterious term that gives no clue to how the procedure is performed. This form of abortion is only done in the final trimester of pregnancy, namely the 7th, 8th & 9th months of pregnancy. The physician induces labor, and when the baby’s head emerges from the birth canal, an incision is made at the base of the baby’s skull. A tube is inserted into this incision, and the baby’s brain is vacuumed or suctioned out of the skull, or the skull is crushed.

Even the Nazi’s with all of their atrocities, never came up with anything as horrible and brutal as this. Yet this vile “procedure” was perpetrated on late term, viable babies for a number of years in our country. Finally even some proponents of a woman’s “right to choose” could no longer stomach this revolting form of child murder, and a majority of both political parties came together in a bi-partisan movement to ban partial birth abortion. Despite this effort President Clinton vetoed the ban on partial birth abortion twice.

Needless to say the procedure is endorsed and embraced by NOW (the National organization of Women) Planned Parenthood, the ACLU and other elements in the left wing of the Democratic Party. John Kerry and John Edwards both support the procedure on the grounds that banning this form of abortion interferes with a woman’s right to choose.

Partial birth abortion was not abolished until a Republican President came into office. But the National Organization of Women, the ACLU and other members of the far left wing of the Democratic Party filed legal challenges to overturn the ban in the liberal courts of America. They succeeded on June 1, 2004, when a lady judge in San Francisco, not only abolished the ban, she even stated in her ruling that the pain suffered by the baby in this procedure is “irrelevant.”

The Democratic Party is the homosexual rights party, which supports homosexual civil unions and homosexual “marriage.” The Biblical condemnations of this are clear and unequivocal. But God gave us free will to either accept or reject his Word. Homosexuals can do whatever they want in their bedrooms. They can make any private commitment they choose and can make legal provisions to share property and income, make living wills concerning health decisions and make wills to leave their property to each other. Yes, family members can challenge these wills, but family members can also challenge the wills of heterosexual individuals.

The fact is, legalizing homosexual marriage changes the definition and structure of the family, the basic building block of human society. And since the homosexual union is not fruitful of human life and is not the source of the human family, same sex unions have no legal claim and no civil right to marriage or to legal unions that include children.

Homosexuality has nothing to do with the true meaning of marriage and family life. The homosexual “marriage movement” in this country is really a tactic to force legal acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle as a cultural norm and even as a norm of family life!

In Scandinavia where homosexual “marriage” has been legal for a number of years, the average length of the relationship is 1.5 yrs. The partners in gay marriages average 8 extramarital partners a year.

By the way, my support of the Federal Marriage Amendment is not about hating or disliking homosexuals as human beings, which I do not. But it is most certainly about opposing the legality of homosexual acts, the homosexual lifestyle, and the movement to redefine marriage and family life by accepting homosexuality as normative behavior.

The homosexual lifestyle is NOT the norm of family life. And to raise children in an environment that expresses and condones this lifestyle is a lie. It gives the child a false perception of the nature of man and woman, of what constitutes a family, and could easily create confusion in the child’s understanding of sexuality – including the child’s own sexuality.

Meanwhile, John Kerry and John Edwards both support homosexual civil unions, which implicitly includes homosexual adoption of children. This is not to say there are no Republicans who are not supportive of these issues, but support of these issues is the norm rather than the exception in the Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party is the party of those who want to make America a completely secular society with no mention of God or the Bible -- banning any public display of the 10 Commandments, of nativity scenes, and prayer in our schools and public places. This is the party of those who want to remove “One Nation under God” from our pledge of allegiance. They want to remove “In God we trust” from our currency and all mention of God from public Life.

It seems most of the forces in the culture that tend towards the erosion of pride in our country, family life, and in traditional moral and family values, seek shelter under the umbrella of the Democratic Party in this country.

People in the “soft” and hardcore pornography industry in this country, including the purveyors of smut in movies, TV, Radio, video games, the theater and the Internet are NOT going to vote Republican!

We have reached the point in our country’s history when America is quite literally fighting for its soul.

One has only to look at the anti-moral programming typified by much of “reality” TV, Shock Radio, in commercials, in situation comedies, in movies, plays, magazines, and books that undermine traditional marriage and family life in favor of sex outside of the bonds of marital commitment, non-traditional family living arrangements, and gay relationships, to realize there is a concerted movement in this country against the traditional Judeo-Christian moral values this country was founded upon.

The media in all its forms “preaches” sexual promiscuity, and acceptance of deviant sexual practices in the name of freedom of expression, with all the fervor of any religious evangelist --all the while ridiculing virginity and chastity until marriage. Too often family role models in the media are in the mode of self centered, irreverent, dysfunctional and foul mouth characters injected with massive doses of “humor” to make them palatable.

No wonder the divorce rate is soaring in this country when so much of what is in American culture these days militates against faith-based, stable, monogamous marital unions between men and women. And virtually all of the forces in the culture that tend towards the erosion of traditional moral and family values seek shelter under the umbrella of the Democratic Party in this country. Democrats must be held accountable for this, or they need to publicly repudiate these elements in the Party.

Am I saying that voting for the Republican Party is going to solve all the country’s moral problems? No, I do not believe this to be the case. The Republican Party does not embody all that is morally right and good. But more members of this party seem to have respect for the historical reality that this country was founded by men who had a profound belief in God and entrusted “their lives and their sacred fortunes” to his care in establishing the American Republic.

This party seems to have more respect for traditional moral values. And on certain key moral issues like abortion on demand; partial birth abortion; the protection of marriage and the family, the Republican Party is more in conformity with core Judeo-Christian beliefs.

The Democrats have effectively blocked key Republican Judicial appointments to federal judgeships, that would install more conservative jurists in our nation’s major courts, and insure a more balanced Judicial System in this country. We need to re-elect President Bush and we need a decisive conservative majority in the U.S House and Senate and in our State Legislatures. The pendulum has swung much too far in the direction of the far left liberal special interest groups and the gods of political “correctness” that call the Democratic Party home!

The more morally ambiguous and corrupt our culture becomes the greater the opposition to the 10 Commandments and the Judeo-Christian values that are the foundation of our country. This is inevitable because strong moral values are a constant reproach and obstacle to the forces of amorality and indecency that are destroying our culture and our nation from within. These opposing views of life and of the world cannot ultimately co-exist. There is abundant historical evidence of the fate of nations that succumb to forces that destroy the family and promote sexual promiscuity and perversion. We must make a choice – a moral choice.

Think about it. Pray about it. And decide.


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1 posted on 07/15/2004 4:30:00 PM PDT by sandlady
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2 posted on 07/15/2004 4:33:00 PM PDT by sandlady
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I'm sure some of you know about and maybe use this organization.

I followed a link to a page about Corrine Brown (D-FL 3rd) who, while debating today, "got up and accused the Republicans leading the debate on the other side of participating in a "coup d'etat" in 2000."

The house voted 219-189 to strike it from the record. She was forbidden to speak on the floor of the house for the rest of the day.


3 posted on 07/15/2004 4:39:45 PM PDT by sandlady
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To: sandlady

I often consider that some democrats are more conservative than they know. This is the best pro-family argument I've read in a long time. I wonder why he considers himself a Democrat. At least he knows he has a choice and isn't bound to the wrong party!


4 posted on 07/15/2004 4:43:49 PM PDT by sandlady
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To: sandlady

This is worth another bump.


5 posted on 07/15/2004 4:59:30 PM PDT by sandlady
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To: sandlady

Just vote your common sense. It's all good.


6 posted on 07/15/2004 5:00:51 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: sandlady

You are sooooooo right about that. I think I will ask that of my Demo friends this weekend.


7 posted on 07/15/2004 5:01:55 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..............)
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"I wonder why he considers himself a Democrat."

Just spent some time on the links there and couldn't find where it said he was a democrat. I wondered about it. Looks like the article titles are each side of the fence.

8 posted on 07/15/2004 5:05:47 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Glenn
Just vote your common sense. It's all good.

I'm confident the author of this rant will do just that and hopefully, convince other decent dems to do the same.

9 posted on 07/15/2004 5:07:07 PM PDT by sandlady
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To: Eastbound

You may be right but these bits had me thinking he had had a change of heart:


"I think we have reached a point in time when committed Christians, who believe in the Bible, in traditional moral values expressed in the 10 Commandments, and believe in family values based on marriage between one man and one woman, can no longer in good conscience, vote for most Democratic candidates."

"Am I saying that voting for the Republican Party is going to solve all the country’s moral problems? No, I do not believe this to be the case. The Republican Party does not embody all that is morally right and good. But more members of this party seem to have respect for the historical reality that this country was founded by men who had a profound belief in God and entrusted “their lives and their sacred fortunes” to his care in establishing the American Republic."


10 posted on 07/15/2004 5:11:59 PM PDT by sandlady
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"Not only is this an issue for Christians, but for Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Hindus, Shinto’s, and practicioners of other religions."

The only problem is our country was not founded as a religious country, but as a Christian country.


11 posted on 07/15/2004 5:47:02 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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To: sandlady
Looks like he gives the Republicans more credit than the dems, as the Dems were not mentioned as a party that had "respect for the historical reality that this country was founded by men who had a profound belief in God. . ."

Maybe he's a LaRouche guy!!!

In any case, he might be limiting his audience or customers by choosing the Republicans over the Dems. I don't think he wrote the piece, but only offers the soapbox column for any contributor's viewpoint. What think?

12 posted on 07/15/2004 5:53:25 PM PDT by Eastbound
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"The only problem is our country was not founded as a religious country, but as a Christian country."

Evidenced by the fact that all the signers of the U.S. Constitution testified that their Lord was Jesus Christ.

"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelth. In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names."

If an aethiest or non-Christian were among the signers, wouldn't they have asked for a more generic, non-Christian date in the document?

13 posted on 07/15/2004 6:18:12 PM PDT by Eastbound
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"If an aethiest or non-Christian were among the signers, wouldn't they have asked for a more generic, non-Christian date in the document?"

Had they asked, do you think the majority would have bowed down to their demands as they do today? I think not. I dare say he would have probably been dismissed from the meeting. Knowing how serious our fathers were about having God's help in the design of our country, they would not have wanted an aetheist in their presence.


14 posted on 07/15/2004 6:25:28 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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So now we have 'Common Era (C.E.) and 'Before Common Era (B.C.E.)' as designators. Next thing you know, they'll want to change it to 'Uncommon Era', or 'Mohammed Era,' or 'Rev. Moon Era.'


15 posted on 07/15/2004 6:55:53 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: AfghanIraqVeteran
Or even THIS!
16 posted on 07/15/2004 7:52:36 PM PDT by Eastbound
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1952--US Supreme Court defines the Separation of Church and State.

"We are a religious people and our institutions presuppose a Supreme Being...No Constitutional requirement makes it necessary for government to be hostile to religion and to throw its weight against the efforts to widen the scope of religious influence. The government must remain neutral when it comes to competition between sects...the First Amendment, however, does not say that in every respect there shall be a separation of Church and State."


17 posted on 07/15/2004 8:05:30 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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1891- (Church of the Holy Trinity vs. United States, 143 US 457, 36 L ed 226, Justice Brewer)

"Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian...this is a religioius people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation...we find everywhere a clear definition of the same truth...this is a Christian nation."


18 posted on 07/15/2004 8:10:51 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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The only problem is our country was not founded as a religious country, but as a Christian country.

I completely agree. I think the author was appealing to the morality side of the other religions. How can any religion reconcile itself with the destructive policies of the left?

19 posted on 07/15/2004 8:37:43 PM PDT by sandlady
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To: AfghanIraqVeteran
1952--US Supreme Court defines the Separation of Church and State.

      Good quote.  Do you have a citation?
20 posted on 07/15/2004 8:46:58 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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