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Posted on 07/15/2004 4:29:58 PM PDT by sandlady

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OK--which of you freepers posted this?
1 posted on 07/15/2004 4:30:00 PM PDT by sandlady
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2 posted on 07/15/2004 4:33:00 PM PDT by sandlady
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I'm sure some of you know about and maybe use this organization.

I followed a link to a page about Corrine Brown (D-FL 3rd) who, while debating today, "got up and accused the Republicans leading the debate on the other side of participating in a "coup d'etat" in 2000."

The house voted 219-189 to strike it from the record. She was forbidden to speak on the floor of the house for the rest of the day.


3 posted on 07/15/2004 4:39:45 PM PDT by sandlady
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I often consider that some democrats are more conservative than they know. This is the best pro-family argument I've read in a long time. I wonder why he considers himself a Democrat. At least he knows he has a choice and isn't bound to the wrong party!


4 posted on 07/15/2004 4:43:49 PM PDT by sandlady
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This is worth another bump.


5 posted on 07/15/2004 4:59:30 PM PDT by sandlady
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Just vote your common sense. It's all good.


6 posted on 07/15/2004 5:00:51 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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You are sooooooo right about that. I think I will ask that of my Demo friends this weekend.


7 posted on 07/15/2004 5:01:55 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..............)
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"I wonder why he considers himself a Democrat."

Just spent some time on the links there and couldn't find where it said he was a democrat. I wondered about it. Looks like the article titles are each side of the fence.

8 posted on 07/15/2004 5:05:47 PM PDT by Eastbound
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Just vote your common sense. It's all good.

I'm confident the author of this rant will do just that and hopefully, convince other decent dems to do the same.

9 posted on 07/15/2004 5:07:07 PM PDT by sandlady
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You may be right but these bits had me thinking he had had a change of heart:


"I think we have reached a point in time when committed Christians, who believe in the Bible, in traditional moral values expressed in the 10 Commandments, and believe in family values based on marriage between one man and one woman, can no longer in good conscience, vote for most Democratic candidates."

"Am I saying that voting for the Republican Party is going to solve all the country’s moral problems? No, I do not believe this to be the case. The Republican Party does not embody all that is morally right and good. But more members of this party seem to have respect for the historical reality that this country was founded by men who had a profound belief in God and entrusted “their lives and their sacred fortunes” to his care in establishing the American Republic."


10 posted on 07/15/2004 5:11:59 PM PDT by sandlady
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"Not only is this an issue for Christians, but for Jews, Muslims, Mormons, Hindus, Shinto’s, and practicioners of other religions."

The only problem is our country was not founded as a religious country, but as a Christian country.


11 posted on 07/15/2004 5:47:02 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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Looks like he gives the Republicans more credit than the dems, as the Dems were not mentioned as a party that had "respect for the historical reality that this country was founded by men who had a profound belief in God. . ."

Maybe he's a LaRouche guy!!!

In any case, he might be limiting his audience or customers by choosing the Republicans over the Dems. I don't think he wrote the piece, but only offers the soapbox column for any contributor's viewpoint. What think?

12 posted on 07/15/2004 5:53:25 PM PDT by Eastbound
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"The only problem is our country was not founded as a religious country, but as a Christian country."

Evidenced by the fact that all the signers of the U.S. Constitution testified that their Lord was Jesus Christ.

"Done in Convention by the Unanimous Consent of the States present the Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven and of the Independence of the United States of America the Twelth. In Witness whereof We have hereunto subscribed our Names."

If an aethiest or non-Christian were among the signers, wouldn't they have asked for a more generic, non-Christian date in the document?

13 posted on 07/15/2004 6:18:12 PM PDT by Eastbound
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"If an aethiest or non-Christian were among the signers, wouldn't they have asked for a more generic, non-Christian date in the document?"

Had they asked, do you think the majority would have bowed down to their demands as they do today? I think not. I dare say he would have probably been dismissed from the meeting. Knowing how serious our fathers were about having God's help in the design of our country, they would not have wanted an aetheist in their presence.


14 posted on 07/15/2004 6:25:28 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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So now we have 'Common Era (C.E.) and 'Before Common Era (B.C.E.)' as designators. Next thing you know, they'll want to change it to 'Uncommon Era', or 'Mohammed Era,' or 'Rev. Moon Era.'


15 posted on 07/15/2004 6:55:53 PM PDT by Eastbound
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Or even THIS!
16 posted on 07/15/2004 7:52:36 PM PDT by Eastbound
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1952--US Supreme Court defines the Separation of Church and State.

"We are a religious people and our institutions presuppose a Supreme Being...No Constitutional requirement makes it necessary for government to be hostile to religion and to throw its weight against the efforts to widen the scope of religious influence. The government must remain neutral when it comes to competition between sects...the First Amendment, however, does not say that in every respect there shall be a separation of Church and State."


17 posted on 07/15/2004 8:05:30 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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1891- (Church of the Holy Trinity vs. United States, 143 US 457, 36 L ed 226, Justice Brewer)

"Our laws and our institutions must necessarily be based upon and embody the teachings of the Redeemer of mankind. It is impossible that it should be otherwise; and in this sense and to this extent our civilization and our institutions are emphatically Christian...this is a religioius people. This is historically true. From the discovery of this continent to the present hour, there is a single voice making this affirmation...we find everywhere a clear definition of the same truth...this is a Christian nation."


18 posted on 07/15/2004 8:10:51 PM PDT by AfghanIraqVeteran (IYAAYAS)
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The only problem is our country was not founded as a religious country, but as a Christian country.

I completely agree. I think the author was appealing to the morality side of the other religions. How can any religion reconcile itself with the destructive policies of the left?

19 posted on 07/15/2004 8:37:43 PM PDT by sandlady
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1952--US Supreme Court defines the Separation of Church and State.

      Good quote.  Do you have a citation?
20 posted on 07/15/2004 8:46:58 PM PDT by Celtman (It's never right to do wrong to do right.)
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