The Man with No Name

Belmont Club ^ | July 17, 2004 | wretchard

[exhaustedmomma]

Islamic nuts are the enemy here

And have been for quite some time.
THE CLASH OF CIVILIZATIONS AND THE GREAT CALIPHATE

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

For that reason the act of naming Wahabi Islam as the principal enemy will [be] evaded until it is absolutely unavoidable;

Oh he's right but he's also dead wrong in narrowing it down only to Wahabi Islam. The Iranian Fundamentalist Shiism is also the problem, and they aren't Wahabi.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Actually that's too polite. It's Islam. Period.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

The Constitution is not a suicide pact, but whatever precedents are set in dealing with American Wahabis can be applied to American Baptists later.

The founding fathers were well aware of Islam and dismissed it. Going back to John Jays interpretation that, "We are Christian nation" is fine by me.

[secretagent]

Islam has contradictory messages.

Clerics can quote only the tolerant bits to their followers, and then that Islam variant presents no threat.

[philetus]

How does one go about stamping out an entire religious sect or belief system, and why would we want to anyway?

Take enough of them out, and the others will eventually get the message.

I think you answered your own question.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

"We are Christian nation" is fine by me.

What status would you assign to your non-Christian countrymen?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

[secretagent]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

What about a political movement mixed with god-talk that advocates the violent end to the Constitution?

[oceanperch]

Bump

[Hamza01]

This war will be won easily. Provided foreigners don't jump in. As far as the Khomeinists in Iran, they are dead, as long as the Israelis don't get involved.

The Israelis jump in, then they unite the nationalists with the Khomeinists.

[SAMWolf]

Islam is the enemy, Bump

[Cannoneer No. 4]

We have precious few Arabic speakers in the mosques who will tell us which imams are advocating the violent overthrow of the government.

To root out Wahabism in America may require resort to extrajudicial means, unless we want to infiltrate every mosque and charge each seditious imam one at a time.

Any measures the government takes against the Wahabis collectively just because they adhere to the Wahabi sect of Islam create legal precedents that may in the future work to the disadvantage of other, non-Islamic sects.

[lainde]

Superb article. I'm seeing more and more of them confronting this basic issue of naming the enemy. If Bush wins I hope he will have the courage to do it.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

1.2 billion people practice Islam. Are they all enemies?

[SAMWolf]

Only the ones who are trying to convert everyone else by force and the ones sitting quietly by while their fellow members do it.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

How many are not sitting idly by?

How do we deal with that many enemies?

[Cannoneer No. 4]

The Israelis jump in, then they unite the nationalists with the Khomeinists.

IRAN: Why the Israeli Bombers are Coming

[dandi]

The "take them out " statement didn't refer to my question, which was rhetorical.

It was refering to those individuals within the religion that preach and incite violence, and the ones they incite to carry out those acts.

[Hamza01]

Nice. but the Israelis aren't that dumb. They fight Iran, they lose.

[Cannoneer No. 4]

We know its members and which of those are promoting the violence.

I am not so sure we know that.

Advocating the violent overthrow of the government is already a crime. All we have to do is prove it in a court of law presided over by liberal judges and defended by the ACLU and the best shysters Prince Bandar can buy.

If the bomb belt don't fit, you must acquit.