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The EXPLANATION: Sandy Berger is covering up Bill Clinton’s GREATEST CRIME (2004)
Free Republic | 7-2-0-04 | Bill Charleston

Posted on 07/20/2004 7:44:02 PM PDT by BILL_C

What do some of the craziest events in recent American History all have in common? No, this is not another Blue Dress story, but it is about the biggest crime Bill Clinton committed as president. It was such a small political lie for him but it turned out to have incredible ramifications to our country. Slick Willy may be headed for the title of worst president in United States history, in fact, he might even qualify for the biggest traitor label.

And further more, you don’t even suspect it happened.

Just what was Sandy Berger doing stuffing documents into his clothes while preparing for the 9-11 hearings? Lanny Davis was on natioal news earlier today saying that the leak right before the Democratic Convention just had to be politically motivated.

Did you ever wonder how literally hundreds of witnesses could see a mass murder but the official report not only ignores these citizens but offers solutions that are physically impossible? Conclusions such as this are possible whenever the conspiracy label is attached. And what was all the fuss about Jamie Gorelick being on the 9-11commission? Why did we get bored seeing Richard Clark attacking President Bush in the 9-11 hearings? If you’re one of Bill Clinton’s boys or girls that was in his inner circle, the noose is tightening.

They know what happened but you don’t know, not yet.

In 1994, Bill Clinton was shocked at the Republican massacre in the congressional election. His chances of reelection seemed dim. Drastic action was called for if he was going to see a second term.

The first challenge to Bill Clinton was the Federal Building bombing at Oklahoma City in 1995. As documented in Jayana Davis’ book “The Third Terrorist”, McVeigh and Nichol’s were not the only ones involved in the bombing. It seems that there were Iraqi defectors from Gulf War 1 in OKC. One of the Iraqi soldiers got out of the truck with McVeigh a few minutes before the truck bomb exploded. You may recall the story during the Nichols trial in OKC earlier this spring concerning the surveillance tape that agreed with witnesses showing two men getting out of the truck. Later, the FBI said there was no surveillance tape. This same Iraqi later moved to Boston and was working at Boston Logan Int’l airport the morning of 9-11-01. Is it a small world or was something going on here? The FBI has never investigated.

In Jayna’s book, she ties the Iraqis together with McVeigh and Nichols. Read the book and listen to her interview with Jim Quinn from Pittsburgh in the WARROOM which was aired April 20, 2004. It is in the archives. It will open your eyes.

Why did the investigation focus on two Americans when numerous witnesses testified that others were involved? And of course the initial reports detailed that two middle Eastern men were wanted? What happened?

Bill Clinton knew that if it was shown that foreign terrorists were killing Americans in Oklahoma City his chance of being reelected would vanish. Jamie Gorelick was tasked with removing middle eastern terrorists from the equation and concluding that two right wing extremists motivated by Waco were the cause, the only cause. There was no Middle Eastern conspiracy by presidential order.

Flash ahead to July, 1996 and an airplane leaving from JFK in New York City crashes off Long Island. Hundreds of witnesses see a missile shoot the plane from the sky but the investigation concludes that it was a center fuel tank explosion. Jack Cashill in his book on flight TWA 800 faces the same problem that Jayna Davis did with the Oklahoma City bombing a year earlier. WHY? Witnesses saw one thing but the investigation reported something else.

The crash of TWA 800 occurred before the Democratic convention. As in Oklahoma City, Jamie Gorelick was tasked with removing terrorism from the equation. Richard Clark supplied the center fuel tank scenario, the CIA supplied the computer simulation and Bill Clinton was home free.

Flash ahead to 9-11-01: Bill Clinton has said several times that he first thought of Bin Laden when he heard about the WTC attacks. Actually it had to be Al Qaeda, not Iraq, or his “brilliant” plan might be discovered. But Clinton was not out of the woods yet.

The 9-11 commission is tasked with finding the truth. Jamie Gorelick is on the commission to ensure they don’t. Sandy Berger while preparing to testify is caught removing classified documents by hiding them under his clothes. Anyone who has ever held a TOP SECRET clearance can relate to the sinking feeling he must have in his stomach today as the news is released.

The lies that turned to conspiracy theories led to thousands dying in NYC and Washington, DC on 9-11. Instead of Bill Clinton taking care of business in Iraq in 1995 when Iraqi defectors were caught killing Americans he covered up their involvement to get reelected. His co-conspirators are still trying to cover up the biggest lie in American history.

One of the questions now facing Sandy Berger is will he get a deal? I’m sure he watches Law and Order occasionally so he’s probably familiar with the process. Sell out Bill Clinton and the democratic party and you may get out of jail one day. Otherwise, it just doesn’t look very good.

Bill Clinton, the noose is tightening around your neck. Your legacy is the least of your problems. Everyone understands you’re a natural born liar but most didn’t even suspect the havoc you caused with you lies in 1995.

Now everyone will know it wasn’t an intelligence failure. It was Slick Willy all along.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: berger; clinton; coverup; okcbombing; oklahomacity; pantthrax; sandyberger; soxgate; thethirdterrorist; treason; x42
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To: BILL_C

bttt


241 posted on 12/22/2006 7:59:00 AM PST by WhirlwindAttack (Muck the Fuslims. And Lord strike down the toons too.)
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To: BILL_C

Iraqi defectors?

Isn't that kind of a stretch?

Who trained these people?

Who brought them here?

And, why?


242 posted on 12/22/2006 8:06:23 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006)
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To: WhiteGuy
Iraqi defectors?

Husseini al Hussein who was John Doe #2, and other Iraqi National Guardsmen

Isn't that kind of a stretch? Who trained these people?

it's covered in Janya Davis's The Third Terrorist

Who brought them here? And, why?

GHWB to protect them from Saddam, political assylym, not a bright move. But we've had three presidents in a row that love third world immigaration.

243 posted on 12/22/2006 8:11:18 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism was not tried and found wanting, instead it was found wanting to be tried.)
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To: BILL_C

I remember seeing live interviews of witnesses the night of TWA 800 where they ALL said they saw streak(s) in the sky before seeing the plane come down.


244 posted on 12/22/2006 8:14:06 AM PST by lewislynn (!)
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To: NeoCaveman
GHWB to protect them from Saddam, political asylum,

Protect them from Saddam? Well, probably accurate but of secondary importance?

Political asylum? some were indeed given that identifier, just for show maybe?

It might be more probable that they were indeed brought here at the direction of ghwb, but it certainly was not just to give them a taste of the American dream.

Were they here to do their jobs?
245 posted on 12/22/2006 8:20:40 AM PST by WhiteGuy (GOP Congress - 16,000 earmarks costing US $50 billion in 2006)
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To: WhiteGuy
Were they here to do their jobs?

Trying to follow you, but I'm having a hard time doing it.

246 posted on 12/22/2006 8:28:05 AM PST by NeoCaveman (Conservatism was not tried and found wanting, instead it was found wanting to be tried.)
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To: BILL_C

Wow. This is really interesting stuff. I'm a conspiracy buff myself and I never thought this was an accident, especially when so many people saw that 'missile' or whatever it was that eventually hit the plane. Thanks!


247 posted on 12/22/2006 10:11:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: BILL_C

I was glad to hear this!


248 posted on 12/22/2006 10:12:07 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Yeah, the mistake was getting caught! What a bunch of doofie (doofuses?) and downright criminals.


249 posted on 12/22/2006 10:14:16 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Cincinna

I'LL never tell---


250 posted on 12/22/2006 10:16:06 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: BILL_C

Well, THIS American would LOVE to see the truth come out. I'm a big girl now--and old--and sick of the way government covers up their errors in judgement, etc. It's not supposed to be this way in a republic, is it?


251 posted on 12/22/2006 10:18:42 AM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: WhiteGuy; Marysecretary; lewislynn; twigs; Lee'sGhost; chilepepper; AmeriBrit; Rastus; Cincinna; ...
Iraqi defectors? Isn't that kind of a stretch? Who trained these people? Who brought them here? And, why?

The Oklahoma City bombing was a coverup from the beginning. Many love to jump to the words "conspiracy theory" and write off FACTS as just a crazy anamoly and continue on. Every ONE of these events has one thing in common: The government investigation concludes one set of facts happened while witness after witness says "that's NOT what I saw." The Oklahoma City bombing has the following:

When Timothy McVeigh parked the Rhyder truck in front of the Federal Building minutes before the bombing, a couple of witnesses say they saw a man get out of the passenger side of the truck, that means two people got out of the truck minutes before the bomb blew up.

There are notes made by the Feds that describes what was obviously a surveillance tape that talks of another person getting out of the truck. That surveillance tape has NOT been seen since.

The person gettting out of the truck is an Iraqi soldier defector. The government concluded in the investigation that McVeigh and Nichols acted alone, PERIOD.

The reason we know who the second man getting out of the truck is due to the work of Jayna Davis, an NBC reporter at the time who was one of the first journalists to arrive at the Fed building after the explosion.

In her book, THE THIRD TERRORIST, Jayna tells about eight Iraqi soldier-defectors who were in OKC working at a property management company which had $Millions. The arab who owned the company said he got the $$$ from "rich siblings in Bagdad"....

To make a long story short, Jayna goes on to describe how the FEDS went from looking for a Brown Truck with TWO Middle Eastern men speeding away from the bombed FED Building to two WASPs who did it alone.

IF you look at the bottom line you are faced with: The FEDS say McVeigh and Nichols acted alone and exploded the truck bomb in front of the building, PERIOD.

If you look at Jayna Davis' book and other work, you see that McVeigh and Nichols associated with some of these EIGHT soldier defectors from Gulf War I leading up to the bombing (President Bush I let soldiers who defected into the United States). IT's at least possible that Saddam put some of his agents in the United States to get revenge. These agents hooked up with McVeigh and Nichols as Jayna clearly shows that in her book. Due to her reporting the accused Iraqi who got out of the truck with McVeigh sues Jayna. She gets BOXES of depositions and other evidence and wins her case but the question(s) remain(s):

The Feds say one thing

The boxes of depositions say something different.

Where did the Iraqi soldiers really come from?

I'll post an audio interview that will take you about 20 minutes to listen to with Jayna Davis and David Schippers (Schippers was the House Prosecutor of President Clinton in the impeachment trial who has gotten involved with this case). The question you'll walk away with IF you believe Jayna is WHY WOULD THE GOVERMENT LIE?

What I've written is the motive, a psycho President named Bill Clinton who decided, probably with the FIRST World Trade Center bombing that terrorists bombings in the United States done by Middle Eastern terrorists were NOT going to be directly addressed. INSTEAD of treating these as acts of war, Clinton was going to treat them as criminal actions to be prosecuted in court.

Jamie Gorelic (the assistant Attorney General under Reno)shows up in OKC and the case goes from an APB looking for two Middle Eastern men in a brown pickup to McVeigh and Nichols, PERIOD.

Gorelick's name also shows up in the investigation of TWA800, an airliner that HUNDREDS of witnesses say was shot down by a missile. The government says it was a center fuel tank explosion but look at the newspaper and the witnesses in that case:

http://www.twa800.com/eyewitnesses.htm

(1)You can believe the goverment's investigations and conclude that "conspiracy theorists" are nuts running around who just can't accept that witnesses sometimes say the darndest things

(2)You can believe that some people say some things but that the goverment could NEVER get away with a coverup of this magnitude therefore it never happened

(3) OR you can conclude the obvious, a NUT in the White House hid the fact that TERRORISTS were killing people in the United States and that we ARE not going to war over this problem. Find another reason, which was done in each of these cases EVEN when they are physically impossible, even when there are HUNDREDS of witnesses who saw something different.

I'll post a link to the audio MP3 file of Jayna's interview that covers OKC. She covers the discrepancies between what the witnesses say happened in 1995 but she didn't have a clue WHY this was done.

Remember that Jamie Gorelick shows up as a Commissioner on the 9/11 Commission that is trying to determine WHY terrorism grew up to the point of 9/11. Remember that she was involved in covering up the OKC bombing/ TWA800 missile shootdown and then we have her trying to determine the root causes of HOW IT HAPPENED.

Then we have Sandy Berger, Clinton's National Security Advisor, while preparing for the 9/11 hearing CAUGHT stuffing TOP SECRET SPECIAL CATAGORY documents in his underwear. The PRESS yawns when idiots like Clinton say Berger was just messy, disorganized......!

Ask yourself the question "Who are the real idiots, Clinton, who still gets a pass for saying BS like that OR the NY TIMES, FREEREPUBLIC, DU, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, George Will...... who don't finally ask WHAT IS REALLY GOING ON?????"

If you sit back and take a macro view of everything the picture is pretty clear IMHO but a micro view that the press loves just leads to question after question and confusion....

252 posted on 12/22/2006 11:58:47 AM PST by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history are bound to repeat them!)
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To: BILL_C

All well and good. But, two years after the publication of this thread Bill Clinton is on of the most admired and respected figures in the country
his WINO is revving up to take over the White House.

WINO = Wife in Name Only


253 posted on 12/22/2006 2:39:14 PM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO " We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good ")
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To: lewislynn

I have a friend who says she saw it.


254 posted on 12/22/2006 3:03:53 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: BILL_C

It's amazing and extremely frustrating at the same time. I had heard this theory right after it happened and then nothing...


255 posted on 12/22/2006 8:41:22 PM PST by Marysecretary (GOD IS STILL IN CONTROL.)
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To: Marysecretary; Cincinna
"It's amazing and extremely frustrating at the same time. I had heard this theory right after it happened and then nothing..."

Well, I wrote this back when the Sandy Berger story first hit the news. I had been looking at this angle for several years as the parallels in the "conspiracy theory" stories are basically all the same, we have a pile of witnesses saying one thing and the government says no, the witnesses are undependable.

So what's different now? Obviously we haven't hit a TIPPING POINT YET but that's not to say we can't find one, that one doesn't exist. The average American really doesn't care to worry too much about the details of stories like this, but they care a great deal if we have soldiers on the ground in Iraq. Of course, they don't like to see people jump out of buildings to keep from burning to death either. And make no mistake, Clinton's inaction against attacks by a foreign government on America in the mid 1990's led directly to the 9/11 attacks as he neutered the intelligence services effectiveness to prevent this type of attack and he empowered Saddam to get even bolder.

But don't delude yourself for a second, the government intelligence services owns the major media. Those clowns (or idiots as I like to think of them don't understand how they are manipulated but they are just like sheep in the field, they go where the power wants them to go).

The real question: Is there way to give this story legs because there is no doubt, absolutely no doubt, that Sandy Berger was stuffing these documents in his shorts to keep the 9/11 Commission and the sheeple from figuring out what really happened in OKC and TWA800.

Expose that, and the scum from the 90's will be worrying about being hung for their crimes, not worrying about getting WINO elected as President.

And Bush understands this action by Iraq, factor into the equation how the Pentagon went after the ABLE DANGER revelations. Ask yourself does it make sense that Bush is sacrificing himself to keep the truth hidden? The story fits together perfectly. It all makes sense which is the prime criteria to use :-) Have a Merry Christmas!

256 posted on 12/23/2006 8:00:26 AM PST by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history are bound to repeat them!)
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To: lewislynn
I remember seeing live interviews of witnesses the night of TWA 800 where they ALL said they saw streak(s) in the sky before seeing the plane come down.

Jack Cashill has written several articles about the treatment of the witnesses to the shootdown of TWA800. The statement I remember the best is HOW MANY WITNESSES DID THE NY TIMES INTERVIEW?

The answer is zero, the NY TIMES did NOT interview one, not even one witness.

257 posted on 12/23/2006 8:06:02 AM PST by BILL_C (Those who don't understand the lessons of history are bound to repeat them!)
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To: BILL_C

bump for later


258 posted on 12/23/2006 8:06:33 AM PST by Ditter
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To: BILL_C

I was in a Boston Hotel room. I couldn't sleep and they were talking about a plane crashing after leaving JFK. The local news was interviewing several people who lived on the shore or were in boats and witnessed the explosion. They all said a streak of light went up. There was an explosion and the plane came down in two big parts.

By the next day, none of these stories existed anymore.


259 posted on 12/23/2006 8:18:27 AM PST by poinq
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To: poinq; BILL_C
They all said a streak of light went up. There was an explosion and the plane came down in two big parts.

The same interviews I saw and I think they were on CNN. The official explanation was, not one witness saw what they saw. The explanation was, the people only THOUGHT they saw streaks going up when what they were really seeing was streaks coming OFF the airplane before the explosion....

260 posted on 12/23/2006 8:30:58 AM PST by lewislynn (!)
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