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Posted on 07/21/2004 12:24:58 PM PDT by AubreyRight
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I can't believe these words came out of a grown woman's mouth. That sounds like something a starry-eyed 13 year old would say about Jessica Simpson and Nick...Simpson.
Give it time. The Democrats will soon acclaim "incest" and "adult-child love" the next phase in civil rights. This was 20 years ago and look how far we've already come.
That was the explanation 21 years ago. How prescient! Why don't people get it today? What ever happened to Avery? Was he the last Shallow North politician to have functioning synapses?
One of the two should have had a sex-change operation and then everything would be hunky-dory!
"I'd like you to meet my wife and my niece."
I am in my fourth decade of existence, and I say "they're a super-neat couple" just looking at Jessica Simpson alone. ; )
Isn't that John's wife?
The principle established in the Texas sodomy case is that there is no state interest in sodomy. I ask, what would be the state interest in this union of a non-fecund heterosexual couple? Indeed, what is the interest of the state in marriage?
Is the state interest, as the majority in the Massachusetts supreme court gay marriage decision says, the benefits involved, i.e., is this an equal rights issue? Or, is the state interest, as the minority in that decision says, that from a union of (a presumed fecund) heterosexuals there can come children?
If the state interest is the children, then - it might be argued by social conservatives - certain restrictions might be placed on personal liberty in order to uphold the institution of marriage.
Libertarian conservatives, on the other hand, would simply argue that marriage be reserved for unions of heterosexual couples. Concern for equal rights and for privacy would then warrant a review of all the benefits - and penalities - that have been piled onto marriage, and of the behaviors involving consenting adults that have been made illegal.
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If, that is, the effect of the amendment is to prevent the establishment of gay marriage by judicial fiat, and puts it back in the legislature where it belongs.
I truly believe that if we recognize first civil unions, state by state, and then after we've had time to realize that the hysteria regarding the terrible consequences have been proven to be false, to go on to recognize gay marriage, one state after another, each learning from the previous, and the citizens learning from the experience in other states, etc., we'll find that gay marriage is not all that big a deal.
Don't get me wrong - there are a lot of aspects of the gay "culture" I find problematic. Public exhibitionism I find objectionable, outside of fairly narrow venues. Infidelity is destructive to any relationship. Wanton promiscuity is a danger to public health.
But the gays who are trying to get married are in general those who are trying to build solid, long-term relationships. Those who have the least to do with the behaviors I find unacceptable.
On the other hand, I'm convinced that a judicial imposition of gay marriage would be a disaster. It will end any possibility of real dialog, and polarize and divide.
Look at Roe v. Wade - I'm not the only person here who believes that a woman should be allowed to terminate a pregnancy, in the first trimester at least, who thinks that Roe v. Wade is bad law.
If we'd done the state-by-state legislative process, I think we would have reached a consensus on abortion. I think we'll reach one on gay marriage, if the courts alllow the process a chance to work.
And I believe that that consensus will be, eventually, pretty close to universal recognition of gay marriage.
And if I'm wrong, if gay marriage does turn out to be as destructive as some people claim, the consensus will be very different than I expect, and that's fine. That's exactly why we do things the way we do. I'd prefer to have a failed experiment tried in one state than in fifty.
Note the name "Forbes" also happens to be (what a coincidence!) John effin' Kerry's middle name.
I am honestly equating the arguments being used to push both into law (with little or no legislative input, arguments which also ultimately must extend to polygamy).
I don't know what happened to those legislators (except Dean, obviously), but it is interesting how similar the arguments are.
"Lachey," though one might be tempted to conclude it might as well be "Simpson." :)
You owe me a keyboard!
No disrespect, but I disagree with your assesment of 'love and bonding' with homos.
My brother was gay. He died of AIDS. After him and his "so called" life time partner cheated on each other. This couple lived together and considered themselves married for 7 years - and the whole time each of them sought out partner after partner outside their "arrangement."
It's not about love and bonding. Gays already exhibit devient behavior as gays...why would that change if they were married? Ever view the gay pride parades...? Do you REALLY know what gays are about?
My brother told me - not some gay guy I don't know - my brother! said that gays are all about one thing SEX! SEX with men, boys are preferred, and more men. It's kind of like fat people hung up on food - gays are hung up on sex.
According to my brother, and brother-in-law who is dying of AIDS - homos are only looking to marriage as a way to legitimize - normalize what they do! Some of them even want to marry so that they can legitimately adopt boy children to have sex with.
I wish all the lying about this subject would stop and for people to find out - for real - what gays do and why they want to shove this abnormal BEHAVIOR on 93% of the heterosexuals in this country!
Please, just send all the gays to co-habitate on an island somewhere and be done with them! They won't be able to pass their so-called non-existant gay gene on (which absolutely makes no logical sense), and they won't be able to TEACH (which makes more sense) their devient behavior to anyone else.
Marriage was already in trouble in Scandinavia, but same-sex "marriage" licenses destroyed it completely. It's just one more symbolic cheapening of the institution (like no-fault divorce laws, for example). Moreover, many would argue that "homosexuality" is NOT to "heterosexuality" as, say, "black" is to "white."
That "experimentation" with partners is apparently on the rise among young women is just one of many indications that the sudden "gay subculture" is little more than a fad. That homosexuals live extremely unhealthy lives--mentally and physically--even in places where homosexuality is tolerated far more than it is in the United States (like New Zealand) is just one indicator that true sexual attraction to individuals of the same sex is the result of something gone wrong in the individual in question. Even if someone shows it to be completely genetic (which no one has shown effectively), it is important to remember that undesirable traits can be inhereted, as well.