Posted on 07/23/2004 7:52:32 AM PDT by esryle
Information officer Andy Adame, from the Border Patrol Tucson sector says, “I guarantee it’s not true.”
However, seasoned Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the Tumbleweed as well as other civilian sources with the hope the information will make it to the general public. The Tumbleweed has verified information that a flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. The increased patrols in the Huachuca Mountains area of Cochise County, seems to have diverted the flow of OTM’s, “other than Mexicans” east to the Chiricahua Mountains.
Adame, who says many of the agents in the area are “green”, questions why they would have shared the information with the Tumbleweed or any other source. “Our policy is to turn any OTM’s over to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security,” Adame said in a phone call made to the Tumbleweed Wednesday morning.
For reasons of National security, Adame said his agency cannot talk about the origin of nationaity, however Adame says that since October 1, 2003, the beginning of the fiscal year for Border Patrol, agents in the Tucson sector have apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other central or South American countries. Adame described them as “people from all over the world”.
In the last month, the Tumbleweed has confirmed at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas.
On or about the early morning hours of June 13, 2004 Border patrol agents from the Willcox station encountered a large group of suspected illegal border crossers, estimated to be around 158, just east of the Sanders Ranch near the foothills of the Chiricauha Mountains. 71 suspected illegal aliens were apprehended; among them were 53 males of middle-eastern descent. According to a Border Patrol field agent, the men were suspected to be Iranian or possibly Syrian nationals. “One thing’s for sure: these guys didn’t speak Spanish and after we questioned them harder we discovered they spoke poor English with a middle-eastern accent; then we caught them speaking to each other in Arabic…this is ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously, and we’re told not to say a thing to the media, but I have to,” said the agent, who spoke to the Tumbleweed with the promise of anonymity.
Adame confirms the groups of illegals were apprehended on those dates in the same area but stated, “There were no middle easterners in the group. Every single one of them was Mexican.”
The field agent stated the men were wearing the traditional uniform of migrants - baseball caps, tennis shoes, some had work boots, denim jeans and many had t-shirts with patriotic American flags and slogans. The agent added the following description “A curious thing I noticed was that they all had brand new clothing and they looked as if they had just been to the barber shop--you know--new haircuts. They were clean cut and they all had almost the exact same cut of mustaches.”
The information was corroborated by a local rancher in the area who reports that sightings of groups similar to these are on the rise. The rancher reports that groups of heavily armed paramilitary drug smugglers have also been seen in the same area.
“We’ve had groups in the hundreds coming through again. They were gone for awhile but now they're back. And of course we have the drug mules again and many are carrying automatic weapons. Many other ranchers in the area have been frustrated with the lack of response from Border Patrol. After calling over and over again to the Willcox headquarters, we might get a response a few hours later. We call them in to the Border Patrol, we only have the Willcox station, and they’re so darned far away. By the time they send in the helicopters these groups are long gone. I don’t know how many they catch but they’re coming through here heavy right now.”
On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.
I think it would be very easy for Middle Easterners to fool people by blending in as a Mexican Farm worker, his accent would give him away, but if he learned a wee bit of spanish you could take an Arab for a Mexican
About as much damage as a hick from Arkansas with 2 years left of his second term as president of the u.S. . . . . . .
All gun totin bear drinkin repubie outdoor sport enthusiasts and other conservatives excepted . . .
Posted on 07/15/2004 11:08:48 AM EDT by dubyaweluvya
Can anyone confirm this article as translated from JIHAD QUARTERLY?
1. Seattle, WA
2. Portland, OR
3. Dearborn, MI
4. Patterson, NJ
5. Boston, MASS
6. Buffalo, NY
7. Milwaukee, WI
8. San Diego, CA
9. Columbus, OH
10. Eugene, OR
For a second year in a row, Seattle, Washington has been crowned "America's Most Terror-Friendly City" by Jihad Quarterly (an oddly-named monthly magazine published by Al Qaida and Al Jazeera). The #2 city (up a slot from last year) is Seattle's sister to the south, Portland, OR (home to the group of admitted terrorists known as the "Portland Seven").
bttt
BUILD THE WALL. NOW!
MOST TERRORIST FRIENDLY STATE IS TEXAS
Texas has one of the fastest growing Mid Eastern populations in the entire country. In Houston alone, there are now over 100,000 Mid Easterners with more pouring in daily.
And now this!
Congressman Culberson, 7th District, Houston, Tx :
Congressman John Culverson of Texas just stated he has received informantion from Southern District U.S. Attorney Michael Shelby (Texas)that Al Quida members have been entering from the southern border and have been entering Texas in *large* numbers.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1172997/posts?q=1&&page=1#1
I assure you that I could.
No threat from the Southern border is there?
Possibly, but the real danger is the fact that Border Patrol is not seeing every one even now. They don't even need to know english, let alone spanish.
This does not appear to be a creditable source and anonymity doesn't improve it.
Isn't that like saying terrorist only fly on American airlines? Or, terrorist do not wear blue jeans?
Of course, now you'll say that a United States Congressman (R) from Texas is not a credible source either....
Congressman John Culberson, 7th District, Houston, Tx just stated he has just received informantion from Southern District U.S. Attorney Michael Shelby (Texas)that Al Quida members have been entering from our southern border in *large numbers* and have been entering through Texas....He stated this was recently unclassified information.
I wish I could share your optimism. I think this would go a long way towards stopping the problem...but not all the way. We'd still have folks crossing the borders, but there won't be any work for them...I'd see a very large welfare drain for awhile.
bttt
There's nothing quite like starting out with a false premise.
Could you give me an estimate of how many border patrol officers/soldiers it would take to seal off the Southern border. Then how many naval patrol boats it would take to seal off the Gulf of Mexico, Atlantic Ocean and the Pacific Ocean? Then how many to seal off the Northern border?
Can you give me an estimate of the cost? Would we have to withdraw troops from Iraq or institute a draft?
Then who would replace the immigrant laborers? Will you repair roofs and clean septic systems, and pick melons in the hot Texas sun? Do you really think that the unemployed American office workers, managers, and foremen of the industries that have to relocate to Mexico to get employees will be willing to mow lawns for a living?
The "Tombstone Tumbleweed" run by a crew of 2 single-issue types, eh? Stop the presses! People with agendas are spreading alarm and spinning tales of doom and gloom!
Were'nt we training some of the 9/11 terrorists in our own flight schools? Why should this influx of terrorists through the Mexican border be a surprise to anyone? President Bush has had almost four years in Office to get our borders tightened up, and all he's done so far is throw them open all the wider with Mexican truckers. Dang, even the liberal-socialist FDR had the good sense to clean up the possibility of Japanese-American spies and seditionists by confining them to camps. I'm not asking Bush to encamp our Muslim population, but at least TIGHTEN UP OUR BORDERS.
Sounds like you're afraid of hard work, and that you give up quickly in the face of adversity. Frankly, I don't give a rap what it would cost to secure our borders from these Islamic barbarians. We had a huge military during the Vietnam era, and if we need to do some sort of "Border Guard" draft thing then go for it.
There are other means to discourage illegals from entering our country than just putting up a wall. We can begin to treat those who get caught like the criminals they are, and quickly deport others who get caught after the fact. Drop them off in the Congo for all I care. The idea is to make it more difficult for illegals to enter, and to punish or deport those who get caught, thereby creating a strong deterrent.
We are at war for God's sake, and these are people who are very motivated to kill us and destroy our way of life. It's time to get angry and stop fooling around, it's time to get CREATIVE. We could find volunteers to help patrol our borders, we could pay retired police and military men to do the job by giving them a moderate salary or an increase in their pensions. Government could grant young citizens help with college tuition if they volunteer for Border Patrol duty for one year. There are a thousand ways to get the job done. And do it we MUST.
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