Posted on 07/23/2004 7:52:32 AM PDT by esryle
Information officer Andy Adame, from the Border Patrol Tucson sector says, I guarantee its not true.
However, seasoned Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the Tumbleweed as well as other civilian sources with the hope the information will make it to the general public. The Tumbleweed has verified information that a flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. The increased patrols in the Huachuca Mountains area of Cochise County, seems to have diverted the flow of OTMs, other than Mexicans east to the Chiricahua Mountains.
Adame, who says many of the agents in the area are green, questions why they would have shared the information with the Tumbleweed or any other source. Our policy is to turn any OTMs over to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, Adame said in a phone call made to the Tumbleweed Wednesday morning.
For reasons of National security, Adame said his agency cannot talk about the origin of nationaity, however Adame says that since October 1, 2003, the beginning of the fiscal year for Border Patrol, agents in the Tucson sector have apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other central or South American countries. Adame described them as people from all over the world.
In the last month, the Tumbleweed has confirmed at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas.
On or about the early morning hours of June 13, 2004 Border patrol agents from the Willcox station encountered a large group of suspected illegal border crossers, estimated to be around 158, just east of the Sanders Ranch near the foothills of the Chiricauha Mountains. 71 suspected illegal aliens were apprehended; among them were 53 males of middle-eastern descent. According to a Border Patrol field agent, the men were suspected to be Iranian or possibly Syrian nationals. One things for sure: these guys didnt speak Spanish and after we questioned them harder we discovered they spoke poor English with a middle-eastern accent; then we caught them speaking to each other in Arabic this is ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously, and were told not to say a thing to the media, but I have to, said the agent, who spoke to the Tumbleweed with the promise of anonymity.
Adame confirms the groups of illegals were apprehended on those dates in the same area but stated, There were no middle easterners in the group. Every single one of them was Mexican.
The field agent stated the men were wearing the traditional uniform of migrants - baseball caps, tennis shoes, some had work boots, denim jeans and many had t-shirts with patriotic American flags and slogans. The agent added the following description A curious thing I noticed was that they all had brand new clothing and they looked as if they had just been to the barber shop--you know--new haircuts. They were clean cut and they all had almost the exact same cut of mustaches.
The information was corroborated by a local rancher in the area who reports that sightings of groups similar to these are on the rise. The rancher reports that groups of heavily armed paramilitary drug smugglers have also been seen in the same area.
Weve had groups in the hundreds coming through again. They were gone for awhile but now they're back. And of course we have the drug mules again and many are carrying automatic weapons. Many other ranchers in the area have been frustrated with the lack of response from Border Patrol. After calling over and over again to the Willcox headquarters, we might get a response a few hours later. We call them in to the Border Patrol, we only have the Willcox station, and theyre so darned far away. By the time they send in the helicopters these groups are long gone. I dont know how many they catch but theyre coming through here heavy right now.
On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.
The best place to hide is in a crowd. We couldn't stop the influx of Mexican laborers even if we wanted to. It's time to face reality and change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally.
Good job, esryle!
This is ridiculous. Discounting agents WHY???
At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.
Unacceptable.
Process guest workers. Shoot everyone else on sight.
I agree, if there is a system set up to control guest workers, then anybody sneeking in could be considered fair game.
There is always the 50 cal. over their head cover fire to slow them down!
ping
When you look closer, you realize that they are not "Mexican" but are mostly of ancient ethnic Chinese descent, and thereafter from the Southwest Pacific Rim and are Muslims, and they speak some Spanish and some "Span-glish," enough to get by. A few may speak the King's English with an American accent.
This is freakinunbelievable!
I'm by no means a military strategist, but common sense would tell you that when at war, make sure your camp is secure.
Close the borders, Washington!
But we have to give them AMNESTY.
They're only hard-working terrorists who will do the crimes Americans don't want to do.
Abdullah Mohammed Hassan al-Jihad = Jose Gomez.
Wrong. If we wanted to, we sure as h*** could.
we will only after we HAVE to
BUMP and adding border states to article.
Bump...
Here they come.
El Presidente Jorge Arbusto ..the best president Mexico ever had...
America first....close the dang borders...bring our troops home and station them on our borders instead of protecting people against threats that no longer exist...not to mention they dont even want us there in the first place..
Stop the flow of illegal aliens, narco terrorists, the Mexican Army, Mexican illegal alien farm worker Mexican 'red' meth smugglers, Latin American Communists, Cubans, Columbian drug cartel mules, Chinese Communists, al Qaeda, al Qaida, Hezbollah, HAMAS, Islamic Jihaad, etc etc
Guest workers my arse...
imo
I say p*ss on the government and start armed vigilante patrols to protect the border.
Writing letters, signing petitions, making phone calls, even voting is not working to effect change.
FMCDH(BITS)
BRAVO!!! Well said Joe, I couldn't agree more
ping
Tom Clancy once wrote that enemies would use aircraft as missiles to destroy the Capitol (Red Storm Rising?). Then it happened, but with Jihadis not Japanese.
Tom Clancy recently wrote that Jihadi terrorists would cross the Mexican border on foot, and attack American shopping malls.
I hear the falafal is great in Phoenix.
>>. The agent added the following description A curious thing I noticed was that they all had brand new clothing and they looked as if they had just been to the barber shop--you know--new haircuts. They were clean cut and they all had almost the exact same cut of mustaches. >>
When you have 'twins' walking around, it is very difficult to determine just which one of them you are looking for.
Index
I live here in Arizona... geeeee the movie " Red Dawn " seems like its becomming a reality really fast !
Well, wrong!
Since they are attracted partly because our lenient "laws" mean they don't really risk anything by trying, and the amnasty proposal gives them hope.
Meanwhile, do those Middle-Eastern Terrorists think we're stupid, or what?
I don't know about that, it seemed to me as though D-Day guys did a pretty good job of pressing Germans back into Germany and our guys in the Pacific stopped the mighty Japanese navy, didn't they.
How would your local police respond to dozens of men in various locations carrying automatic weapons? Remember the chaos caused by two armed bank robbers with AKs and body armor in LA? How long would it take for the local National Guard units (provided they're not forward deployed) to form to respond? How many Americans would be killed before they did?
Far-fetched? So was hijacking planes and crashing them into the WTC/Pentagon/Capitol. Even if some were captured by DHS and the weapons recovered, others would get through. What sort of warning would your government produce if they were captured? Large illegal alien safe-houses with dozens of illegals living in them are discovered all the time.
If you were al-Qaeda, how would you respond to Afghanistan and Iraq? One way would be to bring the war to the US, to the homes of Americans, just like the war was brought to your home. It would put the lie to the whole notion of 'fighting them there, so we don't have to fight them here.'
Relying on our government to protect us from these people is like relying on the Post Office to protect you against termites. They don't have the equipment, the manpower or the inclination. Remember that the next time the Left howls about gun control.
BTTT
bump !
Well if it isn't true then how come my insurance agency keeps sending me reminders that my ploicy does not cover acts of terrorism and acts of nuclear terroism resulting nuclear detonation or nuclear contamination...
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that those crazy T's want to blow us all up real bad an a N-bomb is their bling bling...Now we just need to make sure they don't show up here...
BUMP
I wrote the following to my reps.
I have great concern that congress and the administration lack resolve to protecting our borders, which will result in substantial lost of American lives from terrorist attack. I call on you to display the leadership and courage to address this issue noted by the 9/11 commission. To do otherwise would make you and others in congress responsible for the future deaths of Americans. I know this is pretty hard statement, but that is the current situation like it or not. You and I did not cause the situation, but we can work to fix the problem with our borders. The US Border Patrol cannot cope with the current influx of OTM (Other than Mexicans) crossing our borders, many of which are Middle-Eastern men. Yes they have caught thousands, but thousands more have made it across the border. We need to control our borders now, not after the next terrorist attack. If that means using the military until the Border Patrol or other means can be instituted, then lets do it. If you cannot support protecting our borders, we will not be able to support you.
Oh we COULD stop the mexicans IF we wanted too. The people want it stopped...the government doesnt care! GWB is part of THAT problem!

Usted es una madre fea del extremo, sí?
I bet you don't understand one word of Spanish mohamed?
You had a good idea. I just tweaked it a tad. No bad feelings I hope.
A bump to stop the wave of illegal aliens
Hoppy
This is more disturbing than the cute pic you posted....
Bump
On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.
I saw this in the Gertz/Scarborough column INSIDE THE RING (....Pentagon that is) from todays 'Washington Times':
Arab illegals
U.S. border agents since October have picked up five Arabs trying to cross into the United States illegally from Mexico, according to U.S. officials. The arrests are raising new concerns that al Qaeda terrorists are trying to enter the country from Mexico.
However, officials at the Homeland Security Department's Customs and Border Protection section - formerly the U.S. Border Patrol - were quick to dismiss as erroneous an Internet report this week that said a "flood" of Middle Eastern men were caught recently trying to sneak into the United States across the Mexican border with Arizona.
The officials said the report probably was based on the recent arrests of a group of people from a small southern Mexican Indian tribe. Known as the Oaxacan, the tribesmen were caught trying to cross the border. The Oaxacans speak a very different Spanish dialect and completely different indigenous language that was mistaken for Arabic, the officials said.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/inring.htm
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm..........................
It's time to face reality and change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally.
WE CAN STOP THEM!!!! Israel is proving that by building their wall. I would pay for the same in a special assessment RIGHT NOW.
Get your head out of the sand. They aren't coming here to be "laborers". They are coming because no one is stopping them and because they get a myriad of free services they cannot get in their country of origin.
Free to THEM....NOT FREE to the USA taxpayers....
Out of control!
The invasion has started and we have not fired one shot in defense. Go figure. Your local socialist will want these folks at the polls to vote in November. More socialist voters being brought in.
Woman With Possible Terror Ties Arrested (smuggled thru our southern boarder)
No big deal. At least half escaped capture? So how many could that be? Maybe 19? How much damage could 19 Islamic terrorists do?
Ya gotta wonder where these guys go when they get over the border. They certainly don't go to the hundreds of safe houses set up for the illegals. I'm in Texas about two hundred miles in from the border in a small town (1,000) and we have one safe house that I know of. He's the guy you call when you need some day laborers. He certainly is no secret. I'm sure the feds know him and have explained to him that the only way he gets left alone is if he WITHOUT fail turns in any OTMs. At least any from the ME or Central Asia.
So where do they go? To the mosque of course.
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