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To: esryle

The best place to hide is in a crowd. We couldn't stop the influx of Mexican laborers even if we wanted to. It's time to face reality and change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally.


2 posted on 07/23/2004 7:57:53 AM PDT by bayourod (Kerry, the human downer, knows the words to "optimism" but can't quite get the tune right.)
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To: bayourod

Process guest workers. Shoot everyone else on sight.


4 posted on 07/23/2004 8:02:57 AM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: bayourod

I agree, if there is a system set up to control guest workers, then anybody sneeking in could be considered fair game.


5 posted on 07/23/2004 8:03:44 AM PDT by U S Army EOD (John Kerry, the mother of all flip floppers.)
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To: bayourod

There is always the 50 cal. over their head cover fire to slow them down!


6 posted on 07/23/2004 8:04:35 AM PDT by Lowell (The voice from beyond the edge!)
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To: bayourod

Wrong. If we wanted to, we sure as h*** could.
we will only after we HAVE to


11 posted on 07/23/2004 8:18:48 AM PDT by woody9
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To: bayourod

I live here in Arizona... geeeee the movie " Red Dawn " seems like its becomming a reality really fast !


23 posted on 07/23/2004 9:00:06 AM PDT by Met7Az
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To: bayourod
"..to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally."

Well, wrong!

Since they are attracted partly because our lenient "laws" mean they don't really risk anything by trying, and the amnasty proposal gives them hope.

Meanwhile, do those Middle-Eastern Terrorists think we're stupid, or what?

24 posted on 07/23/2004 9:00:41 AM PDT by Designer (Sysiphus Sr. to Junior; "It was uphill, all the way, both ways!")
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To: bayourod

I don't know about that, it seemed to me as though D-Day guys did a pretty good job of pressing Germans back into Germany and our guys in the Pacific stopped the mighty Japanese navy, didn't they.


25 posted on 07/23/2004 9:01:31 AM PDT by zerosix
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To: bayourod

Oh we COULD stop the mexicans IF we wanted too. The people want it stopped...the government doesnt care! GWB is part of THAT problem!


34 posted on 07/23/2004 9:33:38 AM PDT by texson66 ("Tyranny is yielding to the lust of the governing." - Lord Moulton)
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To: bayourod

It's time to face reality and change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally.

WE CAN STOP THEM!!!! Israel is proving that by building their wall. I would pay for the same in a special assessment RIGHT NOW.

Get your head out of the sand. They aren't coming here to be "laborers". They are coming because no one is stopping them and because they get a myriad of free services they cannot get in their country of origin.


43 posted on 07/23/2004 9:56:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: bayourod; esryle
Congressman: Al Qaeda entering southern border and changing names to Mexican surnames

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MIDDLE-EASTERN INVADERS CAUGHT CROSSING FROM MEXICO IN COCHISE COUNTY IN PAST SIX WEEKS

Woman With Possible Terror Ties Arrested (smuggled thru our southern boarder)

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Tue Apr 20, 8:09 AM ET
Reuters

Jermaine Jackson(L), brother of Michael Jackson, Jackson family spokesman Firpo W. Carr(C) and Khawaja Khurshid Reshi hold a rug with a woven picture of Michael Jackson April 19, 2004, in Manama. Jermaine Jackson, in the Gulf to promote understanding between Muslims and his fellow Americans, said Tuesday that Muslims are 'the new Negroes in America.' Jermaine, a convert to Islam and dressed in white Arab garb, has been speaking about Islam and U.S. 'adventures' in Iraq to enthusiastic audiences at Koranic centers and universities in the Gulf Arab state of Bahrain. (Hamad I Mohammed/Reuters)

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-Muslims are encouraged to be wholly occupied (Sura 2:273) with fighting for Allah's cause.

- Allah will give "a far richer recompense to those who fight for him" (Sura 4:96).

- Regarding infidels (unbelievers), they are the Muslim's "inveterate enemies" (Sura 4:101). Muslims are to "arrest them, besiege them and lie in ambush everywhere" (Sura 9:5) for them. They are to "seize them and put them to death wherever you find them, kill them wherever you find them, seek out the enemies of Islam relentlessly" (Sura 4:90). "Fight them until Islam reigns supreme" (Sura 2:193). "Cut off their heads, and cut off the tips of their fingers" (Sura 8:12).

- If a Muslim does not go to war, Allah will kill him (Sura 9:39). He is to be told, "the heat of war is fierce, but more fierce is the heat of Hell-fire" (Sura 9:81).

- A Muslim must "fight for the cause of Allah with the devotion due to him" (Sura 22:78)

- Muslims must make war on the infidels (unbelievers) who live around them (Sura 9:123).

- Muslims are to be "ruthless to unbelievers" (Sura 48:29).

- A Muslim should "enjoy the good things" he has gained by fighting (Sura 8:69).

- A Muslim can kill any person he wishes if it be a "just cause" (Sura 6:152).

- Allah loves those who "fight for his cause" (Sura 61:3).
Anyone who fights against Allah or renounces Islam in favor of another religion shall be "put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off alternative sides" (Sura 5:34).

- Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him. Sahih Al-Bukhari (9:57)

- Slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

- Take him and fetter him and expose him to hell fire. (Koran 69:30-37)

- I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)

- They should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)

- Know that paradise is under the shades of swords. Sahih al-Bukhari Vol 4 p55

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"There will be "gushing fountains" and everyone "shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine." Suras (or chapters) 55 and 56 of the Quran.

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52 posted on 07/23/2004 10:25:46 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Ronald Reagan to Islamic Terrorism: YOU CAN RUN - BUT YOU CAN'T HIDE!)
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To: bayourod

Mexico, aiding and abetting the terrorists. President Bush, please remove our troops from Europe and put them on the borders. Bush/Cheney 2004


66 posted on 07/23/2004 11:02:02 AM PDT by No Surrender No Retreat (These Colors Never Run)
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To: bayourod
The best place to hide is in a crowd. We couldn't stop the influx of Mexican laborers even if we wanted to. It's time to face reality and change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally. "Operation Wetback" seems to have worked. Unlike the War on Drugs, there are only a limited number of consumers for illegal alien labor. It would be very difficult if not impossible to prevent drug use because of the millions of consumers. But, the consumers of illegal alien labor generally have stores or other locations where they do legitimate business. Most (sane and honest) people can tell the difference between a group of Americans (of all races, creeds, and colors) and a group of illegals. So, if we wanted to, it wouldn't be that difficult to prevent as many employers as possible from using illegal labor. Coupled with intiatives like Protect Arizona Now, why exactly would illegals come here? They couldn't use our public services and they couldn't find work. Perhaps they could camp out in the desert, but they could do that in their home countries. When Bush throws up his hands and says there's nothing we can do, the system is broken he's simply lying. The system is broken, he just isn't following the system.
69 posted on 07/23/2004 11:10:18 AM PDT by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: bayourod

Well, I'm glad to see you changed your tune, even if it is ever so slightly. However your suggestion does nothing to address our insecure borders. I take it you're perfectly OK with 2 dozen middle eastern men escaping from the BP's clutches?

Wouldn't common sense dictate that we might want to improve our half-assed border security arrangement now?

I'm just curious as to why you are so adamently against increasing border security.


71 posted on 07/23/2004 11:25:42 AM PDT by taxed2death (A few billion here, a few trillion there...we're all friends right?)
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To: bayourod
We couldn't stop the influx of Mexican laborers even if we wanted to. It's time to face reality and change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally.

Even if we did set up a guest worker program, it still wouldn't solve the problem of illegal immigration. The United States doesn't need an unlimited supply of guest workers. Those foreigners who want to come to the United States, but who don't qualify for the guest worker program, will still come here, but will do so illegally.

72 posted on 07/23/2004 11:27:02 AM PDT by usadave
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To: bayourod

I disagree. Start removing the incentives for illegal immigration. Enforce the laws already on the books that levy fines against employers for hiring illegal workers. If employers are investigated, they claim they can't be responsible if their workers present documents which later turn out to be fake. Or employers hire workers "off the books" and pay cash so no documents are needed.

Changing our immigration system? The US currently permits between 1 to 1.5 million legal immigrants a year - the highest level of any country!


77 posted on 07/23/2004 12:13:11 PM PDT by cassie22
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To: bayourod; HiJinx
It's time to face reality and change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally.

If the Feds started aggressively fining employers $10k per offense for hiring illegals (as per Federal law), there wouldn't be an illegal immigration problem.
113 posted on 07/26/2004 9:35:19 AM PDT by wjcsux (Don't be a girly man! Vote Republican!)
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To: bayourod
We couldn't stop the influx of Mexican laborers even if we wanted to.

There's nothing quite like starting out with a false premise.

116 posted on 07/29/2004 11:49:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Privatizating government regulation is critical to national defense.)
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To: bayourod
There have been a quiet but steady number of whooping cough cases in northern Illinois and Southern Wisconsin. The doctors haven't been diagnosing it because they so rarely see it. We believe my wife may have had it, and three people at her church were diagnosed with it (friend of hers and her two children). I met the lab supervisor of a hospital near Kenosha, Wisconsin this weekend at a party who told me that they are sending out 5 whooping cough tests a day and getting back 10% positives (do the math, works out to about 10 a month). And I am NOT making this up.

I believe it is because of illegals. When's the last time you heard of ANYONE having whooping cough? It had to be brought here from somewhere else.

These gutless, G-d d@mn politicians that will sell our souls to buy a vote need to to start paying attention that hey, your career means nothing to the electorate. What matters is OUR health and safety. You're all going to find that out the hard way sooner or later. G-d, this frosts me.

127 posted on 08/01/2004 2:29:25 PM PDT by Hardastarboard
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To: bayourod

change our immigration system to orderly process guest workers into this country leagally.



We don't need "guestworkers." Processing guest workers means giving them amnesty and allowing them permanent status in this country. We don't need them!!!!!


136 posted on 08/01/2004 6:45:44 PM PDT by RepublicanHippy
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