Posted on 07/23/2004 7:52:32 AM PDT by esryle
Information officer Andy Adame, from the Border Patrol Tucson sector says, “I guarantee it’s not true.”
However, seasoned Border Patrol field agents have shared some disturbing information with the Tumbleweed as well as other civilian sources with the hope the information will make it to the general public. The Tumbleweed has verified information that a flood of middle-eastern males have been caught entering the country illegally east of Douglas, Arizona. The increased patrols in the Huachuca Mountains area of Cochise County, seems to have diverted the flow of OTM’s, “other than Mexicans” east to the Chiricahua Mountains.
Adame, who says many of the agents in the area are “green”, questions why they would have shared the information with the Tumbleweed or any other source. “Our policy is to turn any OTM’s over to the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security,” Adame said in a phone call made to the Tumbleweed Wednesday morning.
For reasons of National security, Adame said his agency cannot talk about the origin of nationaity, however Adame says that since October 1, 2003, the beginning of the fiscal year for Border Patrol, agents in the Tucson sector have apprehended 5,510 illegals from countries other than Mexico or other central or South American countries. Adame described them as “people from all over the world”.
In the last month, the Tumbleweed has confirmed at least two documented accounts of Border Patrol agents encountering large groups of non-Spanish speaking males in the Chiricahua foothills and on trails along the high mountain areas.
On or about the early morning hours of June 13, 2004 Border patrol agents from the Willcox station encountered a large group of suspected illegal border crossers, estimated to be around 158, just east of the Sanders Ranch near the foothills of the Chiricauha Mountains. 71 suspected illegal aliens were apprehended; among them were 53 males of middle-eastern descent. According to a Border Patrol field agent, the men were suspected to be Iranian or possibly Syrian nationals. “One thing’s for sure: these guys didn’t speak Spanish and after we questioned them harder we discovered they spoke poor English with a middle-eastern accent; then we caught them speaking to each other in Arabic…this is ridiculous that we don't take this more seriously, and we’re told not to say a thing to the media, but I have to,” said the agent, who spoke to the Tumbleweed with the promise of anonymity.
Adame confirms the groups of illegals were apprehended on those dates in the same area but stated, “There were no middle easterners in the group. Every single one of them was Mexican.”
The field agent stated the men were wearing the traditional uniform of migrants - baseball caps, tennis shoes, some had work boots, denim jeans and many had t-shirts with patriotic American flags and slogans. The agent added the following description “A curious thing I noticed was that they all had brand new clothing and they looked as if they had just been to the barber shop--you know--new haircuts. They were clean cut and they all had almost the exact same cut of mustaches.”
The information was corroborated by a local rancher in the area who reports that sightings of groups similar to these are on the rise. The rancher reports that groups of heavily armed paramilitary drug smugglers have also been seen in the same area.
“We’ve had groups in the hundreds coming through again. They were gone for awhile but now they're back. And of course we have the drug mules again and many are carrying automatic weapons. Many other ranchers in the area have been frustrated with the lack of response from Border Patrol. After calling over and over again to the Willcox headquarters, we might get a response a few hours later. We call them in to the Border Patrol, we only have the Willcox station, and they’re so darned far away. By the time they send in the helicopters these groups are long gone. I don’t know how many they catch but they’re coming through here heavy right now.”
On or about the evening of June 21, 2004, agents from the Willcox Border Patrol station apprehended 24 members of a larger group of Arabic speaking males located just east of the Pierce/Sunsites area of Cochise County. At least half of the males escaped capture and disappeared into the United States.
If the border is not CLOSED we are gonna bleed. I damn sure will not give a rat if the border is not closed and non-LEO / non-military Americans are FORCED to self defense of themselves, their families and their homes. I will be among them.
"The officials said the report probably was based on the recent arrests of a group of people from a small southern Mexican Indian tribe. Known as the Oaxacan, the tribesmen were caught trying to cross the border."
Total BS!
In 1985 when I was waiting for a passanger at Brown Field, San Diego, the border patrol agents that I was talking to in the bar/restaruant at the airport said that around 20% of the illegals trying to cross the border were from Asia and the Middle East coming through Mexico.
I'm sure nothing has changed!
I doubt that terrorists will kick in doors of individual houses. Much better to open up at a mall or gas station, anywhere there's a crowd or that will create fear in the average person taking care of necessary chores.
Time to pick up a permit for concealed carry, and several extra magazines.
Mexico, aiding and abetting the terrorists. President Bush, please remove our troops from Europe and put them on the borders. Bush/Cheney 2004
BTTT!
bttt
At my house they'd get buckshot shampoos and accupuncture with the hollowpoint slugs I have loaded in my riot shotgun.
Well, I'm glad to see you changed your tune, even if it is ever so slightly. However your suggestion does nothing to address our insecure borders. I take it you're perfectly OK with 2 dozen middle eastern men escaping from the BP's clutches?
Wouldn't common sense dictate that we might want to improve our half-assed border security arrangement now?
I'm just curious as to why you are so adamently against increasing border security.
Even if we did set up a guest worker program, it still wouldn't solve the problem of illegal immigration. The United States doesn't need an unlimited supply of guest workers. Those foreigners who want to come to the United States, but who don't qualify for the guest worker program, will still come here, but will do so illegally.
Exactly, which is why they'll pick places like San Francisco, Denver, Boston, Seattle, Portland (Oregon), Vermont. You know, all those places where guns are eeeevillll...?
As I said, 'For the Record'.
I'm not sure WHATS going on. Is the article I found in the WashTimes saying that the Border Patrol Officials quoted in it are trying to confuse the issue by refuting the OTHER story?
As I said, 'For the Record'.
G Gordon Liddy addressed this issue at great length in his first hour today. Col David Hackworth reported that he followed up in independent detail on the report in the Tumbleweed and has confirmed that their findings are accurate and true.
This IS happening. OTM, specifically middle eastern men ARE coming across our borders.
God help us.
The Clancy book with a jet crashing into the Capitol, killing the POTUS, most of Congress, most of the Cabinet, and most of the SCOTUS, was 'Debt of Honor'.
And the pilot in that marvelous bit of fiction was Japenese.
The book was released years before 9-11-01.
I disagree. Start removing the incentives for illegal immigration. Enforce the laws already on the books that levy fines against employers for hiring illegal workers. If employers are investigated, they claim they can't be responsible if their workers present documents which later turn out to be fake. Or employers hire workers "off the books" and pay cash so no documents are needed.
Changing our immigration system? The US currently permits between 1 to 1.5 million legal immigrants a year - the highest level of any country!
Tell m4 about it. Look where I am from........
Tell me about it. Look where I am from........
please excuse the double posting.
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