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73 percent of all federal income taxes needed to fund Medicare and Social Security entitlements
Comments on 2004 Social Security Trustees' Report ^ | 7/23/04 | Mike Thompson

Posted on 07/23/2004 2:33:35 PM PDT by mft112345

A 72-trillion-pound elephant is in the room and we have a patriotic duty to acknowledge him before he devours our economy, crushes the quality of our health care and destroys our retirement security.

According to the 2004 Social Security Trustees report the unfunded long-term obligations of Social Security and Medicare amount to $72 trillion. The total bill for current and future taxpayers breaks down as follows: $21.8 trillion from Medicare Part A; 23.2 trillion from Medicare Part B; $16.6 trillion from the new Medicare prescription drug benefit; and $10.4 trillion from Social Security.

It's highly unlikely that either party will mention the $72 trillion figure in any of their 30-second-sound bytes, because there is no immediate political gain in raising the issue.

To put $72 trillion into perspective: On July 15, at a luncheon event in the Rayburn House Office Building of the U.S. Capitol, Social Security Trustee Thomas R. Saving told an audience that Congress would have to devote "73 percent of all income taxes from now until eternity" in order to pay for the two entitlement programs.

Repeating a warning from the 2004 Social Security Trustees report, Saving said these two programs are expected to consume 1/4 of all federal income taxes by 2019, and added that he doesn't expect Congress or the American people to allow this to happen. When I questioned him after his talk, he told me that he believes tax increases are inevitable if America decides to pay for these entitlements as they exist now.

Referencing the former Soviet Union, he questioned whether Americans would still be willing to work under the future tax burden. Jokingly, I asked him whether it was time to move to a different country, and he said every country is facing similar demographic problems.

America's patients, retirees and taxpayers can't afford to wait 15 years before politicians are brave and honest enough to confront this crisis. Voters ought to ask politicians to propose fair, reasonable and specific solutions to this $72 trillion dilemma.

Social Security private accounts are a necessary -- but small -- step towards fixing this problem. These individual accounts would not address the debt from the retirees who are in the system now or the 70 million baby boomers who might retire before Congress agrees to allow these accounts. As mentioned earlier, projected Social Security spending only accounts for $10.4 trillion, with more than $60 trillion coming from projected Medicare spending.

We should use any and every opportunity to ask candidates and office holders to discuss the $72 trillion figure mentioned in the Trustee's report. Political candidates should not be allowed to gloss over this issue, simply because it's a sensitive subject in an election year. America's taxpayers, patients and retirees can't afford to give them this luxury.


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KEYWORDS: 72trillion; bush; congress; elections; health; incometax; incometaxes; jobs; kerry; kerrycampaign; medicare; medicine; prescriptiondrugs; retirement; socialsecurity; taxdollarsatwork; taxes; youpayforthis
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To: Springman

"According to the Congressional Budget Office, roughly $400 billion over ten years. Trustees say the new permanent entitlement will cost $16.6 trillion.
Try $ 534 billion over ten years - only God knows the ultimate cost for this boondoggle."
OMB says $534 billion, but CBO sticks by its lower estimate.


61 posted on 07/24/2004 7:35:28 AM PDT by mft112345
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To: sarcasm

"Why don't you post your own thoughts over on the blogs...you set this up to look like it is someone important or something that is something more than just another opinion...We all got opinions but we aren't so desperate as to post our own ramblings as if it were NEWS"

Social Security Trustee Tom Saving's comments had gone unreported in the news. If you don't like the info, don't waste your time responding.


62 posted on 07/24/2004 7:41:09 AM PDT by mft112345
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To: mft112345

I wonder why this guy decided to point out the amount of this obligation in terms of "income taxes" instead of the percentage in terms of the "FICA" which is meant to fund it?

Did he inadvertently get mixed up, or is this just some type of bureaucrat or Demodog dirty trick.


63 posted on 07/24/2004 8:23:09 AM PDT by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: mft112345
"Apologies. To clarify: He said, assuming federal income taxes follow the same trend as they have over the last 50 years, Congress would have to apply 73 percent of income taxes from now until eternity to pay for the two programs."

Haven't income taxes fallen? 50 years ago would be 1954 and that's not long after WWII. In 1954, the top rate was 91% on income over $200,000. Now the top rate is 28%. So if the trend continued either we will be paying negative taxes at the end of another 50 years or single digit taxes depending on whether you extend the trend as a line or as a curve based on %.

64 posted on 07/24/2004 4:23:46 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: DannyTN

I believe he said income tax rates as a percentage of GDP. You might contact him directly by visiting http://www.ncpa.org/about/tsaving.html


65 posted on 07/25/2004 10:54:48 AM PDT by mft112345
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To: Springman; qam1; ItsOurTimeNow; PresbyRev; tortoise; Fraulein; StoneColdGOP; Clemenza; malakhi; ...
I was away for the weekend, So sorry this is a little late

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Ping list for the discussion of the politics and social aspects that directly effects Generation Reagan / Generation-X (Those born from 1965-1981) including all the spending previous generations (i.e. The Baby Boomers) are doing that Gen-X and Y will end up paying for.

Freep mail me to be added or dropped. See my home page for details and previous articles.

66 posted on 07/25/2004 4:27:35 PM PDT by qam1 (Tommy Thompson is a Fat-tubby, Fascist)
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To: mft112345

Social Security is a PONZI SCHEME that Greenspan wants to end before it sinks our economy.


67 posted on 08/01/2004 6:24:07 AM PDT by taxtruth
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