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To: Dog Gone

If the guns are not locked away in the vehicle, I have no problem with AOL's rights. I do have a problem, though, if the guns are locked away and are unaccessable except by the owner.

It presumes that someone may commit a crime with the gun on their premises - that's a major leap of logic.

What if somebody had marijuana in their glove compartment or cigarettes on the dashboard? Does the employer have a right to fire you because you drove a vehicle with either of these in your possession? How far do we want to take this concept?

And, somehow, I'd imagine AOL wouldn't be bright enough to fire a Middle Easterner with five tons of dynomite parked in his U-Haul on company property.

I hope this gets appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court. This would appear to be a fourth admendment challenge to unlawful search and seizure. It's not like the guns are being brought into the workplace just because they are locked away in the parking lot.


25 posted on 07/23/2004 7:17:52 PM PDT by Tall_Texan (Ronald Reagan - Greatest President of the 20th Century.)
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To: Tall_Texan
What if somebody had marijuana in their glove compartment or cigarettes on the dashboard? Does the employer have a right to fire you because you drove a vehicle with either of these in your possession? How far do we want to take this concept?

Look at it this way. What restrictions do you think you'd accept about ordering people off your front lawn? Perhaps you'd be willing to let them be there with pro-Kerry signs?

Perhaps you'd be willing to let them be there with pro-Kerry signs and shotguns?

It's their stinkin' property just like any property you or I own, and why don't they get to make the rules?

38 posted on 07/23/2004 7:26:52 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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I take it you have issue with Texas Right to Work laws?


146 posted on 07/23/2004 9:29:19 PM PDT by stands2reason (Kerry/Edwards: TERRORISTS FLEE FROM BETTER HAIR!!!)
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To: Tall_Texan
On all oil rig locations I have been on in the past 10 years, firearms, illegal drugs, and alcohol are explicitly prohibited on location. Period.

By entering into the location you consent to search of your person, vehicle, and effects, at the operator or drilling companies' discretion.

While seldom used on the locations I have been on, the policy exists, and refusal to submit to searches is cause for termination of employment or being banned from that drillling contractor's rigsites.

Their policy trumps my concealed weapons permit. Their rig and jobsite.

Like it or not, that is what anti-liability/pro-safety measures have come to.

That said, in most states, an unloaded firearm, secured in a locked area, of the vehicle, especially the trunk, is legal to posess (in the absence of other disqualifying considerations) even without a concealed weapons permit. The firearm is considered 'secured'.

Field stripped, stored in separate boxes, you have "parts", not a firearm. That may be an out. Stop at the gate and put your piece back together for the drive home.

199 posted on 07/24/2004 10:16:12 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (HEY! Let me light this thing BEFORE you start coughing, OK?)
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