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Clock Ticks on Extension of Gun Ban
NY Times ^ | July 24, 2004 | RACHEL L. SWARNS

Posted on 07/24/2004 5:12:31 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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I don't think any of my previous postings have had so many boxes ticked off in the "Topics" category.

It would be nice to see this law go off in the sunset; terrorism at home might make some congresscritters a bit shy about the continuing disarmament of law-abiding citizens.

1 posted on 07/24/2004 5:12:32 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Joe Brower

Tick-tock, bang PING!


2 posted on 07/24/2004 5:13:40 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

If Bush signs it, he'll end up a one-termer like his father, and I shudder to think of the damage that a Kerry victory will do to the Republic.


3 posted on 07/24/2004 5:14:52 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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If Bush signs it, he'll end up a one-termer like his father, and I shudder to think of the damage that a Kerry victory will do to the Republic.

Don't you even read. It's dead. This a NYT hand wringing article to get knee jerk lunkheads like you all in a tizzy, with your knee jerk one liners.

4 posted on 07/24/2004 5:17:21 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: Dane
Geez, a bit harsh so early in the AM. Go easy on the coffee.

You're prolly right though, but we should never underestimate the power of indignant liberals when they marshall their forces for a holy war. I hope this will slide because the timing of the dummocrat convention would make it tough for them to get their act together. And, the media can't scream about Bush doing it since the congress let it die.

5 posted on 07/24/2004 5:21:50 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Here is a fine example of the BIG LIE perpetuated by the anti-gunners. There is no federal BAN on OWNING "assault weapons" as defined in this law, it just bans the importation of a certain semi-automatic weapons. In most states it is perfectly legal to own such firearms.

I never hear anyone stressing this fact.


6 posted on 07/24/2004 5:27:23 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: Pharmboy; mvpel
Geez, a bit harsh so early in the AM. Go easy on the coffee

Yeah, I know, but one would think that a person who has been registered on FR for 4 years(mvpel) would see a NYT hand wringing divide the base story and not make a knee jerk reply.

7 posted on 07/24/2004 5:32:23 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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I think you're thinking of a different ban.

This one, to the best of my knowledge, bans the sale, importation, and manufacture of particular models and configurations of semi-automatic rifles, which have certain visible (but not functional) characteristics. It also limited the capacity of magazines to 10.

Maybe somebody else can correct me if I've messed it up.

That's a point that these articles never cover; they never tell you what the law actually does.

8 posted on 07/24/2004 5:39:29 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Dane

This didn't read like a "divide the base" story to me. It was more a "alert the fringe left to run around like their hair is on fire" story, IMO.


9 posted on 07/24/2004 5:41:04 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Pharmboy
Since then, the president's advisers have repeatedly affirmed his support for the ban, a position that has helped him appeal to moderate voters and demonstrate independence from the powerful gun lobby.

Have you ever seen the "gun lobby" without the adjective "powerful" on the front? Is it NYT editorial policy to refer to the "powerful environmentalist lobby" or the "powerful feminist lobby"? And when did it go from "NRA" to "powerful gun lobby"? Some focus group or other must've concluded that people associated the NRA with ordinary people, rather than a shadowy corporate entity.

The way these guys hone their misuse of language is terrifying.

10 posted on 07/24/2004 5:42:30 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: B Knotts

So why were you the one running around with your hair on fire? j/k :)


11 posted on 07/24/2004 5:43:02 AM PDT by Belisaurius ("Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, Ted" - Joseph Kennedy 1958)
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This didn't read like a "divide the base" story to me. It was more a "alert the fringe left to run around like their hair is on fire" story, IMO

I agree but one poster on this thread took it as a divide the base story, IMO, and gave the usual answer.

12 posted on 07/24/2004 5:43:12 AM PDT by Dane (Trial lawyers are the tapeworms to wealth creating society)
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To: B Knotts
That's a point that these articles never cover; they never tell you what the law actually does.

Most excellent observation. They don't want you to know what they're squealing about, or else the average reader would think they're crazy.

13 posted on 07/24/2004 5:44:51 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Just another stupid waste of a law pushed and passed by...LAWYERS! Now if nobody minds...I'll go click a few rounds off with my Ruger rancher 223. You know, the one with the Garand action and all?


14 posted on 07/24/2004 5:45:39 AM PDT by crz
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To: prion

...or the [powerful] teacher's lobby or union lobby. No--only the Times' enemies are powerful. Great observation.


15 posted on 07/24/2004 5:47:31 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Proof that Congress is most useful when they are on vacation. :-D


16 posted on 07/24/2004 5:47:51 AM PDT by Normal4me
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To: crz
I'm thinking of getting into black powder and flintlocks; I imagine they'll NEVER be outlawed...


17 posted on 07/24/2004 5:51:18 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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Tick tick tick...

Five more days. Could it be that the congresscritters opened a dictionary and learned the word "infringe?" Nah.

5.56mm

18 posted on 07/24/2004 5:52:29 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Normal4me

No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session." -- Judge Gideon J. Tucker


19 posted on 07/24/2004 5:52:59 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Looking forward to lower prices for high capacity magazines!


20 posted on 07/24/2004 5:57:12 AM PDT by Voice in your head ("The secret of Happiness is Freedom, and the secret of Freedom, Courage." - Thucydides)
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