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Clock Ticks on Extension of Gun Ban
NY Times ^ | July 24, 2004 | RACHEL L. SWARNS

Posted on 07/24/2004 5:12:31 AM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: Pharmboy
But Republican pollsters and analysts say voters who are fierce opponents of gun control are more likely to be motivated by the issue.

The DemocRat pollsters are telling them the same. The ONLY politicians wringing their hands and spending political capital on it are the ardent anti-gunners in safe seats. A 'Rat in a rural district knows that the fastest way to get booted out in the fall is to vote for ANY gun control.

21 posted on 07/24/2004 5:57:21 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn't be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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To: Pharmboy
History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces

No. History's greatest agent for freedom: Jesus Christ, and none other in this world compares.

22 posted on 07/24/2004 5:59:01 AM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: Voice in your head

LOL! A practical man indeed...


23 posted on 07/24/2004 5:59:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: B Knotts
This one, to the best of my knowledge, bans the sale, importation, and manufacture of particular models and configurations of semi-automatic rifles, which have certain visible (but not functional) characteristics. It also limited the capacity of magazines to 10.

You are correct, but the law does NOT prohibit the PURCHASE or OWNING of such weapons and magazines that were manufactured or imported BEFORE the "ban" went into effect. In most states you can still buy and sell such "pre-ban" weapons and magazines. If there is a ban on ownership, it was done by your particular state government. Here in Colorado I can still go to a gun store and purchase pre-ban weapons and magazines and own them legally. This probably comes as a shock to people living back east where most assume there is a federal ban on ownership. That is the "big lie" I am referring to.

24 posted on 07/24/2004 6:00:30 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
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To: MarcoPolo
Depends what you mean by "Freedom" I guess. I stand by my tagline...

Best,
PB

25 posted on 07/24/2004 6:01:54 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: Pharmboy

Y'all wait and see. Congress is going to call a special session to deal with the 9/11 report, and the AWB will be tacked on to anything that comes out of it.


26 posted on 07/24/2004 6:03:54 AM PDT by aomagrat (Where arms are not to be carried, it is well to carry arms.")
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To: Trteamer

There are 2 main laws dealing with "military styled" weapons.

There was the 1989 ban on importation of fireams designated by the AG as non-sporting. Then there's the 1994 ban on the manufacture of certain weapons.

The good thing about the 1989 ban is you can still have those guns. Just replace enough parts to make it an American weapon.


27 posted on 07/24/2004 6:05:19 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Counter offer. All prisoners are to be killed unless he is released)
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To: Pharmboy; Dane; mvpel
Since nothing takes "only" five days in washington dc, I agree that it's dead. I fully expect the rats to launch a new "assault weapon" ban legislation blitz in september. They will hammer bush on this issue if he doesn't sign it. If he signs this new one, I won't vote for him. I won't vote for kerry either.
28 posted on 07/24/2004 6:07:32 AM PDT by glockmeister40
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To: Pharmboy

It will sunset like I've been saying for months. This New York Slimes' article does nothing but whine. Ha!


29 posted on 07/24/2004 6:08:39 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: mvpel
If Bush signs it, he'll end up a one-termer like his father

It's nothing the Pres. has to worry about because it's not getting nowhere near his desk.

30 posted on 07/24/2004 6:10:41 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Dane

Does the sunsetting of this ban apply to California. Does CA have its own ban?


31 posted on 07/24/2004 6:14:42 AM PDT by dc27
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California already has a stricter ban in place.

Whereby federal law recognizes pre-ban ownership Cali bans any firearm regardless of construction. Also high cap mags are strictly prohibited...unless you're a cop.

This is the reason why Los Angeles is so safe.


32 posted on 07/24/2004 6:18:51 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Counter offer. All prisoners are to be killed unless he is released)
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That is what I thought. No hope for CA.


33 posted on 07/24/2004 6:21:54 AM PDT by dc27
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To: aomagrat
Politicians, especially the D-rats, won't touch renewal of AWB and will only pay lip service to it. They all remember what happened in 1994, the rats were massacred in the House at the polls. The AWB was the major reason they lost big and they don't want a repeat.
34 posted on 07/24/2004 6:24:02 AM PDT by demlosers
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To: Pharmboy

Stay safe !

35 posted on 07/24/2004 6:26:10 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: demlosers
You and the others on this thread are undoubtedly correct when you read the tea leaves this way; otherwise, the media blitz on this would be deafening (e.g., Katie Colic interviewing the Bradys on Today, lead stories every night on BrokawRatherJenning, etc.).

This wasn't even a page one story, and the fact that the Times printed it on the least-read Saturday edition is also telling.

36 posted on 07/24/2004 6:28:15 AM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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To: demlosers

" It's nothing the Pres. has to worry about because it's not getting nowhere near his desk."

Don't be too sure. Complacent gun owners and weak kneed Republicans could allow the ban to be renewed. Fight to the end. Don't make stupid assumptions that will allow the Jackazz party to win another victory.


37 posted on 07/24/2004 6:31:58 AM PDT by BadAndy (Specializing in unnecessarily harsh comments.)
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To: Pharmboy

Feinstein's and Schumer's pet socialist legislation is about to die.

RIP

In lieu of flowers, please send a gift of money to one of your favorite gun shops and buy an extra box of ammo for yourself.


38 posted on 07/24/2004 6:32:23 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Gen. Custer wore an Arrowsmith shirt to his last property owner convention.)
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To: aomagrat

"Y'all wait and see. Congress is going to call a special session to deal with the 9/11 report, and the AWB will be tacked on to anything that comes out of it."


Thats what scares the dawg squeeze out of me. I hate it when congress gets a fire lit under it's arse. Sounds like they are gonna move fast. We have to pay close attention to the AWB as well a NATIONAL ID CARD that is recommended in the 9/11 report.

May I see your papers commrade!!

Beware Freepers
peace....D


39 posted on 07/24/2004 6:32:28 AM PDT by ebiskit (South Park Republican)
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To: Pharmboy
I hope it is dead. BTW, there is a HUGE billboard along the Mass Pike in downtown Boston with a picture of an assault weapon on it urging people to contact some web site in order to urge congress to extended the ban.

Under the picture of the weapon, it says something like "Do you want to see one of these in your neighborhood?"

40 posted on 07/24/2004 6:32:56 AM PDT by leadpencil1 (John can't even Kerry his own personality, how's he going to lead this country?)
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