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Berger blocked 4 plans to get bin Laden
WorldNet Daily ^ | 07/23/04 | WorldNet Daily

Posted on 07/24/2004 8:46:23 AM PDT by tomball

9-11 commission report shows handwritten responses on documents

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Former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger blocked four separate plans of action against the al-Qaida terrorist network from 1998 to 2000, according to the newly released 9-11 commission report.

The report cites a 1998 meeting in which then-director of the Central Intelligence Agency George Tenet presented a plan to capture Osama bin Laden, notes the New York Sun.

"In his meeting with Tenet, Berger focused, however, on the question of what was to be done with Bin Ladin if he were actually captured," the report says, citing a May 1, 1998, CIA memo. "He worried that the hard evidence against Bin Ladin was still skimpy and that there was a danger of snatching him and bringing him to the United States only to see him acquitted."

Berger, who served in the Clinton administration, is facing a Justice Department investigation for allegedly smuggling secret files out of the National Archives prior to the 9-11 commission hearings.

After news of the probe broke Monday, Berger stepped down from his informal position as security adviser to Democratic Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign.

The 9-11 commission report presents three other opportunities given to Berger to take action against bin Laden:

June 1999: The potential target was an al-Qaida terrorist camp in Afghanistan known as Tarnak Farms. But the commission cites Berger's handwritten notes on the meeting paper, which referred to "the presence of 7 to 11 families in the Tarnak Farms facility, which could mean 60-65 casualties." The Berger notes said, "if he responds, we're blamed."

Dec. 4, 1999: National Security Council counterterrorism coordinator Richard Clarke sent Berger a memo suggesting a strike against al-Qaida camps in Afghanistan. According to the commission, however, in the "margin next to Clarke's suggestion to attack Al Qaeda facilities in the week before January 1, 2000, Berger wrote, 'no.'"

August 2000: Berger was presented with a plan to attack bin Laden based on aerial surveillance from a "Predator" drone. "In the memo’s margin," the commission said, "Berger wrote that before considering action, 'I will want more than verified location: we will need, at least, data on pattern of movements to provide some assurance he will remain in place.'"
The New York paper, in an editorial asks why Berger made these critical decisions rather than the president. The commission report notes the decisions "were made by the Clinton administration under extremely difficult domestic political circumstances. Opponents were seeking the president's impeachment."

The Sun opines, had Berger "been a little less reluctant to act, a little more open to taking pre-emptive action, maybe the 2,973 killed in the September 11, 2001, attacks would be alive today."

 



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911commissionreport; muslims; sandyberger
Please excuse post if it is a duplicate.
1 posted on 07/24/2004 8:46:26 AM PDT by tomball
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To: tomball
"The New York paper, in an editorial asks why Berger made these critical decisions rather than the president. The commission report notes the decisions "were made by the Clinton administration under extremely difficult domestic political circumstances. Opponents were seeking the president's impeachment."

It's the VRWC's fault.
Thank God these people aren't calling the shots anymore.

2 posted on 07/24/2004 8:59:26 AM PDT by VaBthang4 (He Who Watches Over Israel Will Neither Slumber Nor Sleep)
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To: tomball

Gee, imagine that. Berger blocked plans to get Bin Laden. And 3,000 Americans died - and the RATS blamed President Bush.


3 posted on 07/24/2004 9:02:19 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: tomball
"The Sun opines, had Berger "been a little less reluctant to act, a little more open to taking pre-emptive action, maybe the 2,973 killed in the September 11, 2001, attacks would be alive today."

Yes children, elect John Kerry. Given the chance, the RATS will exceed that number - times 1000!

The RAT party is the party of consumption and waste. Revenues or lives, it doesn't matter to these bastards.

4 posted on 07/24/2004 9:08:09 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: tomball

How is Berger's stealing of these documents any less significant than Watergate? His actions were clearly for political purposes.

What did Kerry know and when did he know it?


5 posted on 07/24/2004 9:08:20 AM PDT by boycott
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To: tomball

bingo....


6 posted on 07/24/2004 9:10:00 AM PDT by The Wizard (Democrats: enemies of America)
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To: The Wizard

Pete Williams of NBC said there is a Grand Jury looking into Sandy.


7 posted on 07/24/2004 9:23:55 AM PDT by spokeshave (strategery + schadenfreude = stratenschadenfreudery)
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To: tomball
After news of the probe broke Monday, Berger stepped down from his informal position as security adviser to Democratic Sen. John Kerry's presidential campaign.

The commission report notes the decisions "were made by the Clinton administration under extremely difficult domestic political circumstances. Opponents were seeking the president's impeachment."

The Sun opines, had Berger "been a little less reluctant to act, a little more open to taking pre-emptive action, maybe the 2,973 killed in the September 11, 2001, attacks would be alive today."



These three issues (among others) bothered me.

What was the need for the word 'informal' in the first line?  Kerry isn't President so there can't be any other need for this word than to distance Berger from Kerry.  Bull pucky.  If Kerry were listing his advisors, Berger would have been near the top, to show that he had excellent advisors.  Berger was a formal advisor to Kerry, and the Kerry camp considered themselves fortunate to have him.

Next we have excuses why the Clinton administration couldn't do it's job.  If Clinton couldn't do his job, he should have stepped down.  He was impeached.  He was the sink-miester.  He was unfit to serve.  This is no excuse, unless an excuss why he should resign.

I guess those actions vs the 2,973 deaths where just too long of odds for the Clinton administration.  So what?  Who cares?  That was all about sex...

A rehashing of events during and after the most ethical administration in U.S. history.

Berger, Clinton and company are lucky they didn't and won't hang from the nearest tree.

8 posted on 07/24/2004 9:29:03 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fox News is Fair and Balanced. Move-on.org is Bare and Imbalanced.)
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To: Enterprise
"...elect John Kerry. Given the chance, the RATS will exceed that number - times 1000! "

That is my concern, too. Once, the two parties might have represented a difference of opinion on governing. Now, I view the differences as being so vast, that one party seems bent on destroying this country, while the other is--however clumsily--trying to save it. I can't help but look at my liberal cousins in California as part of the problem, instead of part of the family. It's creating a huge divide in our family--and among our friends.

9 posted on 07/24/2004 9:33:00 AM PDT by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: DoughtyOne
had Berger "been a little less reluctant to act, a little more open to taking pre-emptive action, maybe the 2,973 killed in the September 11, 2001, attacks would be alive today."

I'd like to read tomorrow that somewhere around 2973 families are mumbling to themselves, "Get me Johnnie Cochran and Robert Shapiro!"

10 posted on 07/24/2004 9:34:45 AM PDT by ErnBatavia ("Dork"; a 60's term for a 60's kinda guy: JFK)
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To: DoughtyOne

BUMP


11 posted on 07/24/2004 9:41:13 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: MizSterious

I beleive there are many more conservatives in California than you realize. For the record, the Republican party leadership in the state couldn't be more helpful to the democrats if they were on their payroll. The rank and file have their acts together pretty well, but whenever they attempt to install new leadership, the national party wonks get involved and block it.

Ask any long term California Republican who has cared enough to become involved in politics at all, and they'll tell you much the same thing.

All the major propositions and most of our better candidates receive little or no support from the state leadership. You have to drag them kicking and screaming along with you if you want to win.


12 posted on 07/24/2004 9:44:02 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fox News is Fair and Balanced. Move-on.org is Bare and Imbalanced.)
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To: tomball
If Bin Laden was "got," the flow of Saudi cash and Iraqi oil voucher money to Willie and the DNC would have been cut off! Mark Rich in Switerland was making an even bigger fortune from Saddam and probably the French connections, and funneled some of that to Willie. It was money paid to protect a Saudi son, the heir to a Saudi fortune who was simply acting a little starnge and meant no harm.

Berger and the other "moderate" Arab guys in Willie's corrupt government bought it and agreed that, since he was harmless, it didn't hurt to pick up some change NOT doing what they had rationalized made sense to not do!

13 posted on 07/24/2004 9:54:48 AM PDT by Tacis
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To: MizSterious
Oh, the humanity. If you only KNEW how it felt to be living in California. These idiots not elected one Goofy liberal to the U.S. Senate, but TWO. And while I am dearly hoping Bill Jones will beat Boxer, I would not take odds on it.
14 posted on 07/24/2004 10:04:33 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: DoughtyOne
"All the major propositions and most of our better candidates receive little or no support from the state leadership. You have to drag them kicking and screaming along with you if you want to win."

Oh man, doesn't that pretty much sum them up!

15 posted on 07/24/2004 10:06:32 AM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise; DoughtyOne

"All the major propositions and most of our better candidates receive little or no support from the state leadership. You have to drag them kicking and screaming along with you if you want to win."

"Oh man, doesn't that pretty much sum them up!"


Why? Is the California republican leadership not willing to stick their necks out for the conservatives?

Just wondering what's going on out there.


16 posted on 07/24/2004 12:24:38 PM PDT by Maria S ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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To: Maria S

We have had some good people, but looking at the big picture, "girliemen" pretty much sums up the Republican leadership. I'm sorry folks, but the truth hurts. I have observed California Republicans for a long time now. I call it like I see it.


17 posted on 07/24/2004 12:54:37 PM PDT by Enterprise
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To: Enterprise
Gee, imagine that. Berger blocked plans to get Bin Laden. And 3,000 Americans died - and the RATS blamed President Bush.

There's enough blame to go around, unfortunately. Apparently, a plan was presented by Richard Clarke (yes, that Richard Clarke) in the last weeks of the Clinton Administration to basically take out Al Qaeda or at least severely weaken them. The Bush Administration, adored by most FReepers, basically gave this plan a low priority. We could easily say that had Bush expedited this plan, 3,000 people might be alive today. Just like, had Clinton accepted that offering of Bin Laden from the Sudan, 3,000 people might be alive today.

Like I said, plenty of blame to go around.

18 posted on 07/24/2004 1:22:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Kerry/Edwards--Celebrity Gay Ticket 2004)
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To: Maria S

When Simon ran for governor in 2002, the state leadership did almost nothing for him. If they'd have gotten behind the guy he would have won. He actually did pretty well considering.

As for why, I haven't the foggiest. I don't think the Republican leadership views conservatism to be it's bellweather driving force. They act as if they think conservatives are the opposites of the Nader camp.


19 posted on 07/24/2004 2:00:38 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Fox News is Fair and Balanced. Move-on.org is Bare and Imbalanced.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Enterprise

Thanks to both of you; I'm just used to Texas politics...don't know much about California.


20 posted on 07/24/2004 3:15:51 PM PDT by Maria S ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." Hillary Clinton, 6/28/04)
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